To think that releasing crickets at a gay rights conference, specifically to shut them down, should be considered a homophobic hate crime? Somehow these people are crowdfunding to do it AGAIN

[Zahariel]

The optics of having to fumigate a hall after gay people used it to speak about their rights being eroded should not be lost on anyone.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13950839/Trans-activists-release-bags-insects-LGB-Alliance-conference.html

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/suspected-trans-rights-activists-disrupt-lgba-conference-with-live-crickets/ar-AA1s9JHH

This is CLERLY A HATE CRIME - yet it's being reported as trans rights activists, not anti gay hate mongers, I can't really understand why not

It is absolutely a hate crime. Can you imagine the outrage if a trans conference was similarly disrupted. LGB along with women can’t have anything without the T.

It's a disgrace that the group that claimed responsibility for trying to prevent lesbians, gay men and bisexuals peacefully meeting are still being permitted to raise funds for further attacks on two fundraising sites. One of the donors on one of those sites uses the name "MolotovNextTime". They aren't "rights" activists, they are would-be terrorists.

I do feel a bit sorry for the kids who were manipulated into carrying out the attack. They may well end up with convictions for hate crimes, which will follow them their whole lives, while the adults behind this get away. (Who the hell sends teenagers in to do your dirty work?)

BTW I'd be fascinated to know the reasoning of anyone who has ticked the "you are being unreasonable" box. What's reasonable about attacking a lesbian and gay conference?

It's such a cruel thing to do to the insects too.

So, you would support the actions of the group who did this? Do you believe they were acting homophobically? Or is it just misogynistic? Or not a hate crime at all?

Just so I'm clear: you support the attack on a conference organised by an LGB group, attended mostly by LGB people (plus a few straight allies), to talk about the rights and experiences of LGB people? You support this attack, @Curlyboot ?

There are a LOT of GC people about. Some are gay some aren't.

The people at the meeting were are all gay/lesbian/bi people, or LGB allies, some of whom aren't even GC at all.

Based on the definition and all .....

Possibly, but would it be a homohobic hate crime to release crickets into a Gays for Trump meeting? Or could it be something else?

The flippant "you're allowed to protest GC people" is so typical, like these people aren't actually human.

When "protesting" includes sending photos of men's erections to a Twitter thread promoting children's pictures.
Calling for "beheadings".
Punching 60 year old women in the face.
Releasing bugs into an auditorium.
Etc.....

Then, gay people want to TALK...... The horror.

When GC people "protest" the use their minds, words, their facts and insight.
TRA need to use acts of violence because they've got none of the above .

Well yes.
These people aren't going near a "Trans for Trump" meetup are they.

Could you tell me, hand on heart, that if a protest group did this at a Trans/TRA gathering that it wouldn’t be seen as a transphobic attack? Because I would, and I’m firmly GC. Either way they were targeting a specific group to cause distress and alarm. It’s a hate crime against women and those who are homosexual (as are always the targets of TRAs).

Of course it's a homophobic hate crime. The entire trans movement is deeply homophobic and requires compulsory bisexuality for all. How can you be only attracted to members of your own sex if it's impossible to define who gets to call themselves a member of your sex and you aren't allowed to disagree.

If you are attacking a gathering of gay people who are gathering because they are gay, then yes, it would be a homophobic hate crime. Just because I wouldn't agree with, or want to attend, a "gays for Trump" group, doesn't mean they don't have the right to gather. I would have no problem with anyone peacefully protesting such a conference - and indeed I might join the protest, depending on what their agenda was - but no, gay people of any stripe should not be attacked with a view to prevent them from gathering.

Yep, do you think any crimes against women are hate crimes?

Just because the ‘victims’ and I use that term loosely as they didn’t come to any harm, are part of a protected class doesn’t automatically mean any ‘crimes’ against them are hate crimes

Good thing they weren’t ‘attacked’ for being gay then isn’t it

Firstly it’s not an attack. It was a protest.

Secondly I support their right to protest. So yes.

GC has no place in LGBT

Fair point.

Ah, yes, a conference organised by an LGB group, attended mostly by LGB people, to talk about the rights and experiences of LGB people - the attack on them had nothing to do with them being gay? Nobody believes that. I certainly don't.

They are anti exclusively-same-sex attracted people who are open about their exclusive same-sex attraction.

If you only accept gay people who are willing to pretend they are capable of opposite-sex attraction too, then you are a homophobe. End of.

Your belief doesn’t really mean much

They were protested against due to being GC

Not being gay

pretty simple

Bollocks! The stupid children who did this manipulated as they were by convicted murderer Sara Jane Baker haven’t the first fucking idea what the likes of Bev Jackson & Kate barker went through & fought for to ensure lesbians like them had equal rights

these children haven’t had to fight for anything to ensure LGB ppl had the same rights as straight ppl. They didn’t fight for it so they don’t value it.

Most be people would be distressed at having hundreds of insects thrown upon them. That's why this method was chosen. So yes it was an action designed to cause distress and alarm; to intimidate the attendees and dissuade them and others from organising and attending similar gatherings.

Very obvious and very sinister