To think that releasing crickets at a gay rights conference, specifically to shut them down, should be considered a homophobic hate crime? Somehow these people are crowdfunding to do it AGAIN

[Zahariel]

The optics of having to fumigate a hall after gay people used it to speak about their rights being eroded should not be lost on anyone.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13950839/Trans-activists-release-bags-insects-LGB-Alliance-conference.html

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/suspected-trans-rights-activists-disrupt-lgba-conference-with-live-crickets/ar-AA1s9JHH

This is CLERLY A HATE CRIME - yet it's being reported as trans rights activists, not anti gay hate mongers, I can't really understand why not

Please point at the homophobia and transphobia. Just one, just ONE single example of either.

We'll wait

I have not seen what she wrote. But I am a free speech absolutist, she should not have been locked up.

The funniest thing about that post is the fact that, after someone has just posted about wanting additional rights and extra priviledges to everyone else, along comes someone to say 'well i'm going to take it further' because they got told off once too often. Its about as school ground level as it gets, when the misbehaving kid gets their Mum to go and report the whole school to Ofsted because they couldn't possibly be behaving in an unacceptable fashion.

The word no, really doesn't register does it?!

Mumsnet is the most homophobic and transphobic website I've ever been on

if i honestly thought that mumsnet was the most homophobic and transphobic website i had ever been on i wouldnt be on it

i certainly wouldn’t tell anyone that i was the type of person who goes on homophobic or transphobic websites

Well considering that particular post and specifically “Mumsnet is the most homophobic and transphobic website I've ever been on, and Mumsnet themselves actively allow it”, I would say that the poster might have a habit of posting outside the talk guidelines

I might also suggest they have their own personal definition of homophobia and transphobia. Definitions that they except others to comply with. They seem upset that others reject those personal definitions and use ones that are considered reasonable by the majority of the population and indeed, the government that set the laws.

They seem upset that an organisation that provides a service can set the guidelines that those using the service need to abide by. And I am all for people influencing the organisation to make changes where needed, so good luck to them for trying to get Justine to change her policies.

Well, quite Rufus. It is always wonderful to see the disconnect between someone declaring that a site is shockingly transphobic but that they still post here. And usually cannot produce examples of transphobia, that reasonable people think is transphobia, that is not deleted.

Oh dear. Not another thread about this.

The protest had nothing to do with homophobia. The LGBA is a transphobic organisation , who exist to threaten respect, dignity, equality, healthcare and rights for trans people. That was what was being protested.

No need. Look on Mumsnet pretty much every day. Have a scroll. Click on some threads, some aren't even about trans or gay subjects but someone will find a way to shoehorn in a "I know what an actual woman is" comment on a pretty regular basis.

I don't need to do the work for you, it really isn't that hard to find.
It's almost laughable how prevalent it is on here, but you carry on burying your head in the sand.

Or, you could prove to me that there's no homophobia or transphobia on here?

I'll wait.

you can read the statement by the protesters here which explains their motivations.

www.instagram.com/p/DBPAtfguKrx/?igsh=eGgyNHZza3N0bGNj

Your evidence for this is?

Other than they disagree with you and see a conflict point between their existing sex based rights and how replacing gender with sex has an impact on their sex based rights?

Yep

Your evidence for this is?

my evidence for what?

Your evidence that The LGBA is a transphobic organisation , who exist to threaten respect, dignity, equality, healthcare and rights for trans people

Well quite.

You said it. Your evidence for what?!

🙄

I'd like a literal quote please.

And to be very clear saying

"I know what an actual woman is"

Thats not transphobia, thats fact. Because men are not women.

It's not up to me to prove something is not, it's up to you, making the claim, that something is. Please do so.

Show us, with quotes and examples, exactly what LGBAlliance has said or done that is transphobic.

Any example will do, thanks for your help.

Read the statement by the protestors I linked . Two specific transphobic LBGA policies that they appose are stated on there.

Furthermore evidence of the LGBA transphobic agenda is stated all over their website. Including under “why we exist”- where they present recognition of trans experience as a fundamental threat to LGB rights.

You only refuse to accept this because you yourself share these views and have decided that - as hateful and hurtful as they factually are - as you agree with them , therefore they are not “transphobic”.

Homophobia and transphobia are deleted by the moderators. It shows that the system in place works.

Your request to prove a negative doesn’t make sense because any content found to be homophobia and transphobia is deleted and therefore it is not there for us to present as proof.

Absolutely so.
Who would have to clean up the stale bottles of piss, and thrown piss the TRA were leaving everywhere and pouring over themselves?

Piss thrown inside doorways

Revolting XY's.

read my post below your comment. Furthermore, there was another thread on this topic where several direcf quotes were copied from the website demonstrating their anti trans agenda - you can read that too.

Homophobia and transphobia are deleted by the moderators

laughable

A bit like every day someone drops in a ‘Mumsnet is soooo transphobic’ but has yet
to provide any evidence of transphobia. Or gives it ‘I don’t have to, it’s there for all to see’. Well, yes you do. That’s how accusations work. You need to back it up or you look a bit silly.

It boils down to the definition of transphobia.

Which is kind of at the crux of the whole issue. The TRA movement seem disinclined to accept any definitions but their own, but to have a definition of transphobia to apply to anyone who doesn’t wholeheartedly accept their redefinitions.

I am not remotely anti Trans people. I will defend Trans people whose rights are not respected.

But in sex segregated sport and certain sensitive contexts I am not prepared to accept the definition of woman to be based solely on gender.

And that’s the position I see held by most ‘transphobic’ people.

Ah that thread where no one managed to prove how a group of same sex attracted people who want to meet up with other same sex attracted people and discuss issues pertinent only to them - same SEX attracted people - are transphobic.

And yet, despite their motivations, the outcomes are homophobic. Because they didn’t think their actions through to the inevitable outcome.

If they stood outside and protested with material aimed specifically at what they were protesting, then the discussion would be different. But they didn’t do that.

And why do you believe Jamie Reed is transphobic? When she, a lesbian, is seeking to improve the health options for children with gender dysphoria and is in a relationship with a female with a trangended identity?