To not recognise Kemi Badenoch's views on ASD?

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The likely next leader of His Majesty's opposition

The Tory leadership candidate Kemi Badenoch has been criticised for a campaign pamphlet that said autistic people received “better treatment” and “economic privileges and protections”.

A pamphlet published by Badenoch’s campaign team at the Conservative party conference argued that conditions such as anxiety, as well as an autism diagnosis, had gone from something “people should work on themselves as individuals” to “something that society, schools, and employers have to adapt around”

I'd love to know what improved treatment and economic privileges I should be getting - maybe I forgot to apply.

What do Kemi supporters find attractive?

You mean "I manage perfectly well so why can't everyone else"? Whilst ignoring the fact it's a spectrum.

I represent nobody but me. Everyone is different let alone autistic people.

Why would you have an EHCP Zahariel? Are you under 25?

You do know how Autistic people work right? We give literally zero shits what anyone else says about us.

Yeah its a spectrum, in fact its a complex 5-6 dimensional spectrum, not a line which is what everyone seems to think it is, from "cute at maths" to "needs 24 hour care"

I don't manage perfectly well. But I do manage to go to work every day unlike the lazy gits I see all around me who have persuaded their GP to sign them off or worse got some long term sickness cover just cos they feel. bit anxious.

Getting any sort of diagnosis you want is a matter of paying the right people and saying the right things, nothing more. You can go online and look at people claiming the same things, reddit, anywhere, then you regurgitate those "facts" and lo - you have ADHD / Long Covid / ME / Anxiety - anything you like

I have my right-wing lunatic Mail/Express soundbite bingo card with me, and I claim a Full House.

And yet - it's still very, very true.

No, it's a load of utter bollocks

I dont think you know anything about EHCPs or SN provision Zahariel.

So did you get your diagnosis because you're autistic? Or did you get it by paying and manipulating someone?

As you've been through the WCA you'd know you can't get sickness benefits just for being a bit anxious.

All you need to do is pay to see a private specialist, which is what people with money do to skip the NHS waiting lists of several years. Then you look at what sort of questions will be asked (ADOS assessments for example are standard), then you make sure you are able to answer those questions in a way that means you will be "diagnosed". Then you have an assessment that stands up in court, to your GP, to get benefits. I assure you that it is triflingly easy to do.

I'm a card carrying mental, I didn't need to fake it. I promise you many many people get a diagnosis they do not really need.

TTFN

Maybe we should ask what them what the weather is like in Russia.

quick reminder that people like me don't care what people like you think :)

I don't have an EHCP, but I could get one with trifling ease.

How old are you?

This is funny, because you are arguing with someone who actually does this for a living, which is why I know that your claims about massed faking are risible nonsense.

It really isn't that simple, regardless of what some "mental" on the internet claims. Your personal experiences are not particularly relevant either, because whatever you did or did not do is one, lone example, and isn't reflective of either the norm or the majority.

TTFN

You off somewhere dearie?

I'm not a Tory and not over interested in the leadership contest as I think there'll be a few changes before heading into the next election. I think both contenders are missing the fact voters go central in the main and trying to pull in the right faction from Reform, though I do think both, particularly Kemi, believe their own views.
However, what I came on to say is that actually Kemi's views, voice, contendership is all I really hear/know about and I have to think a second to remind myself Jenrick is in the race. I guess that any publicity is good in a sense as she'd be the one I recognise and know about on a voting slip - to be fair Jenrick has equally awful views (to me), or good ones to those on that side of the divide so there'd be no real reason/policy/view I could think of to differentiate them when voting either.
I don't think either will really get the Tory party back up and running effectively- I actually think rishi may have done this bit better than going in as PM in a failing party.

@Zahariel You are coming across like someone who has gamed the system for their own benefit and assumed that everyone else does the same and are all like you. You don't get that most people have to struggle and go to tribunals just to get an EHCP, not to mention don't actually want to do anything immoral and want to stand on their own two feet as much as possible.

The more you write, the more you sound like you have just cheated the system yourself and are projecting, or are just some random that actually has no experience of it trying to derail the thread. The more you write, the more it seems the latter.

You run a business but think you can get an EHCP by telling a few untruths? 😂

Just put the shovel down.

Utter rubbish!

It costs best part of £3k ( most don’t have)and you need to have a developmental history as part of the diagnosis. I have an NHS diagnosis as do my children. None of us have gained anything financially from it. We get face to face appointments and reasonable adjustments in meetings and school but that’s it.

For high rate mobility dla the autism dx does help to meet the tests for smi as autism is legally accepted as arrested or incomplete development of the brain. Ofcourse other tests have to be met too.

And yet you are still posting this drivel…

@Zahariel 🤣🤣🤣 you're right. All these primary school kids are just faking it. Googling the symptoms and acting up at school and in assessments just to get their ehcp.. 🤣🤣🤣
And you may or may not be autistic, that doesn't make you representative of all autistic people.

Quite impressive that toddlers know to avoid eye contact and pointing at their three year old screening check! And then manage to maintain that over a five hour child psychologist assessment, and then continue that throughout primary school to get their ECHP!

but somebody on Reddit reckons it totally happens all the time, so it must definitely be true.

People like me..., who are those "people like you" @Zahariel? Autistic people? Manipulative actors?

Trolls, I think

Maybe it's you know who trying to save face......