To not recognise Kemi Badenoch's views on ASD?

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The likely next leader of His Majesty's opposition

The Tory leadership candidate Kemi Badenoch has been criticised for a campaign pamphlet that said autistic people received “better treatment” and “economic privileges and protections”.

A pamphlet published by Badenoch’s campaign team at the Conservative party conference argued that conditions such as anxiety, as well as an autism diagnosis, had gone from something “people should work on themselves as individuals” to “something that society, schools, and employers have to adapt around”

I'd love to know what improved treatment and economic privileges I should be getting - maybe I forgot to apply.

What do Kemi supporters find attractive?

Well removing transport can only make parents of disabled kids more employable right?

Well they are pretty hard of thinking then aren't they? The shit state of services is probably going to cost more in the long run, because you also have to treat the disability and then the MH issues too.

Utter idiots.

It is annoying that it is assumed carers of these children don't work. Even services wrongly assume this and even the people who run support groups. I can't access any support because it's only offered in office hours because I'm bloody working! It is probably because so many people are actually forced out of their jobs and have to claim benefits because of the dire state of education and children's services. 3/4 parents have to change or reduce hours or give up work entirely to accommodate their children's needs because of no holiday/after school clubs, or because they are out of school or on a reduced time table. Sometimes just because of the stress of it all. If they don't like reliance on benefits then sort the bloody issues out. 😒

You would think being from a minority group that required laws to be brought in to protect against racism and exclusion in employment she would have more empathy towards other groups that suffer prejudice.

I assure you that getting a EHCP is just a matter of saying the right things at the right time. Given my experience I was pretty good at it. I also know a great deal of people who have got themselves signed off and special treatment for a wide variety of different things that really don't affect them working at all, but yet they still sponge off you and me. And plenty of people are diagnosed with autism without strong evidence, its just a matter of paying for the referral and making the right noises.

I'm autistic. I run my own successful business. I have zero patience for lazy fakers and I seem to be surrounded by them.

I also agree. I think the centrists realise the extremists need to fully burn out or split the party for the party to rise again. A couple of years of Jenrick or Badenoch will result in total humiliation. Cleverly will come back in a couple of years and push them back to the centre and make them electable again like Cameron.

There are self serving grifters in every group. She, like Braverman believes she and her loved ones will be treated differently so will say anything for money and power egged on by some shady people on the shadows. I wonder if either of them would have felt safe walking close to one of the summer riots?

I think we need to focus on the quality of the candidate. It she is an utter laughing stock and keeps putting her foot in it, it is only going to be bad news for other potential PMs who are WOC.

Truss did not do anything to help future female PMs.

Likewise having WOC in roles being completely divisive, like home secretary or leader of the opposition, is just not going to end well either.

'Straight talking' is just another term that really means 'can't be arsed to do any detailed research before opening their mouth and being divisive'. The public do see through that. I don't mind straight talking and honesty if it comes from an informed place and actually serves the public (which is what they are employed to do), but it doesn't. It comes from laziness. The fact that she doesn't understand that special school places are limited and kids have to travel miles to them (therefore need funded transport), but still happens to shoot her mouth off about it being a privilege is a sign of a very lazy, poor quality politician. It is needed because there isn't provision close to where people live. She doesn't even seem to understand the actual legislation that underpins special education either and why it exists.

She’s a v right wing, deliberately polarising character. The Tory Nigel Farage.

As an aside, I’m not sure I’m comfortable with Badenoch being held to a different standard of empathy due to being a black female. Many white women work full time to support the patriarchy when it’s in their interests.

As a mixed raced woman I notice there’s often an expectation that a black woman’s role is to support everyone else and if they don’t do this some people get entitled and angry. I can’t stand Badenoch and am against everything she says but she has a right to be as selfish as anyone else. Black woman are not the worlds social workers.

run my own successful business. I have zero patience for lazy fakers and I seem to be surrounded by them

What type of business is this that you are surrounding yourself with "lazy fakers"?

clearly not people who work for me FFS

My son's was refused - our la basically refuse all requests and they have to be taken to tribunal.

My friend has a daughter who is diagnosed and none verbal. She starts school next year (summer born so was deferred) The Sen school only takes pupils with a diagnosis AND and ehcps already in place. But her la are refusing ALL reception age children and younger on the basis that they can wait until year one. She was literally told this by the LA's senco. They are going ahead to tribunal and are hoping to get it in time for her to go to the special school, but the likelihood is that it will take too long. She'll have to attend mainstream in reception and struggle, then hope she can move to the Sen school later.

How exactly is any of this "just saying the right thing at the right time" or "being lazy"??

Labour are polling at 31, Tories and Reform combined polling at 41. It's not centrists who will win the next election, it's a tory party that embraces reforms immigration stance.

Sounds like she works in government.

I assure you that getting a EHCP is just a matter of saying the right things at the right time. Given my experience I was pretty good at it.

And this above. Why would you admit to taking the piss yourself then get pissed off that other people that do it? That's pretty dishonest and not fair on people in genuine need, but it doesn't mean everyone does it.

Given that people need tribunals now to just get assessed for an EHCP, I'm thinking this is not genuine. This is a 💩🤖

Yep, apparently a woman is a scrounger stealing SMP from hardworking taxpayers 🙄

Both have been rejected by the 2024 electorate though.

If the tory party is to ever win again, I believe the person to do it has yet to be born.

So if they don't work for you, why are they surrounding you?

Ex friends and family - surely you don't think that the exponential rise in people sitting on their arses doing fuck all whilst claiming sickness benefits is based on people really being sick do you?

I assure you that getting a EHCP is just a matter of saying the right things at the right time. Given my experience I was pretty good at it.

Are you saying you got your EHCP because you just said the right things at the right time and dont have autism at all @Zahariel?

Yes, I do as it so happens.

Well, then you sir are really very very gullible. And also generous with your taxes. I am not, on either count.

I'm neither.

I've attended more WCA's than you've had hot dinners chum.

"Labour are polling at 31, Tories and Reform combined polling at 41. It's not centrists who will win the next election, it's a tory party that embraces reforms immigration stance."
If you are combining polling I have no idea why you are ignoring the LDs and Greens.

I'm autistic. I run my own successful business. I have zero patience for lazy fakers and I seem to be surrounded by them

Then you should know that you are not representative of all autistic people. My son is also “just” autistic, diagnosed at age 3. He will never work or live independently, despite the fact that his education costs the LA more than a place at Eton because the current system is so utterly stacked against children unable to cope in mainstream.

I'm saying that autism has made me especially good at manipulating people to be perfectly honest.

I don't have an EHCP, but I could get one with trifling ease. Getting any sort of diagnosis you want is a matter of paying the right people and saying the right things, nothing more. You can go online and look at people claiming the same things, reddit, anywhere, then you regurgitate those "facts" and lo - you have ADHD / Long Covid / ME / Anxiety - anything you like.