First 100 days

[Iwishicouldflyhigh]

whoever you voted for, what are your thoughts after the First 100 Days?
I didn’t vote for Labour, but I was quite excited in their first few weeks as Keir got his head down and I was excited fir change.

Now I just feel deflated. Same old….freebiegate, nitpicking, infighting. A bit depressing really.

i don’t even think there was a decent alternative really….and that’s even more depressing!!!!!

He is. All that broadest shoulders and pain stuff then the freebies

He can take his ratings adjustment for his own unforced errors

A lot of people do not think that paying even more in taxes is the right thing to do. With a household income of less than 50k the effect to you will likely be minimal, meanwhile those of us with better incomes wilk be hit hard. We have a household income of 100k so certainly not masses and we pay more than a fair share in taxes

Of course £100k is masses.
The median salary is just under £35k - so £70k if you both earn it. £100k is almost a whole extra salary.

Yes you’ll see many pro higher tax pp but for other people paying

You dont understand how taxation on income works either, clearly.

30k on top is not like a whole extra salary, given the tax that would be paid on that.

In the south it is also buttons.

You referred to ofsted starting. not changes.
The change to no one word judgement is Labour.
Plank.

Why in the context of the previous comment about the changes to it, would I then be suddenly referring to the implementation of it 🤣 ? The mind boggles

@Riverd, you're being disingenuous. 100k is a good household income on which it is possible to live very well. We did. In the south. It is way in excess of average household incomes across the UK. This "...we pay more than our fair share in taxes" schtik wears thin after a while. The price of a society which works and strives to close mobility and equality gaps is decent taxation. Look at northern Europe. It runs like clockwork and people in general understand that this is underpinned by taxation which benefit all. I find hoarding personal wealth when others are less well off, without wanting to alleviate that discrepancy, morally abhorrent. At 50k, we have all we actually need.

Your comment where you said it was started by Tories has been deleted. Why is that? And why are you pretending you don’t say that now? It was a very simple, one sentence post saying Tories started Ofsted. Which we all know. But the post you replied to was about the changes. Which have been made by Labour, so your lie here still doesn’t work. I don’t respond to people who deliberately misrepresent things. Good evening.

And yet he’s felt the need to pay back the latest gifts. If it’s all totally legit; why do that?

I think, because he’s embarrassed about the scrutiny. And yet he won’t apologise...

Of course I understand that. Why so superior?
Maybe, as Tebbit once suggested, you should get on your bike then if yo7 aren’t happy 🤷‍♀️
Lots of people in t(e south earn way, way less….and you know it.

It’s legit. He paid them back because he accepted the optics weren’t good.

Wait … it was your reply calling me a plank which went. Which leaves me looking mean for saying the same to you, so I apologise.
But look. You said the Tories started it.
Edit: you need to open the full picture.

I thought his optics were very expensive, no? Courtesy of Lord Alli.

I quite like them, but I have seen a few Labour fans on here say they don’t suit him. Harsh, IMO.

Personally 100 days of utter shite, for the country as a whole still doom and gloom and utter shite.

My mums lost her heating as she dared to keep £15k when my dad died as a safety net so isn't claiming benefits.

I run a small business and the new employment laws mean I won't employ anymore, great for contractors rubbish for anyone wanting employment now.

We are about to sell land for development so will no doubt now pay more tax in capital gains, we earn and paid for the land and poises me off that we will have to pay more tax for them doing nothing!

The new NI contribution for employees if that goes ahead reduces profits and employees being taken on.

And I'm sure it will just get worse and worse, as typical family both working, 2 older teenagers and just about managing to live life.

Oh and friend have pulled their DD from a private school and the poor bugger is being bullied relentlessly at the new school for being a posh bitch and "poor" etc it's bloody heartbreaking for them, and the only victims of that policy are going to be the children.

Didn't Sunak campaign on the same? I seem to recall him promising his government would "have integrity, professionalism, and accountability at every level".

Odd that someone who finds hypocrisy and self-righteousness in politicians so objectionable wasn't bothered by it when it was a Tory PM acting that way.

With respect, that’s pathetic.

So you’re offering up other people paying more?

The UK has some of the lowest rates of tax in Europe for low-average earners. But some of the highest rates of tax for high earners.

Which is why someone on £120k will pay £43,842 in Income Tax and National Insurance. Whereas someone earning £30k will pay £4880 in Income Tax and National Insurance. So 4 times the income, but 9 times as much tax.

Indeed, £4880 won’t even cover the state school fees of one secondary school place (around £7.5k a year).

Infact over half of all UK households receive more in benefits, direct, and indirect services; than they contribute in all taxes. And even when you strip out retired households the number is still nearly half of all UK households.

Now of course, yes, wages have stagnated for many years now. And that is deeply unfair. But to keep the whole show on the road high earners are paying more and more tax.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/personalandhouseholdfinances/incomeandwealth/bulletins/theeffectsoftaxesandbenefitsonhouseholdincome/previousReleases?page=1

https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-8513/CBP-8513.pdf

No, it’s a fair point. That’s what Sunak said when he took over. Why weren’t you more angry he didn’t deliver it?

Agreed @Iwishicouldflyhigh after all their whingeing when the Tories were in, here we go again! Very hypocritical. Can’t believe it!

And as per your example, the higher earner still has 50k more than your less well remunerated worker per year after tax. It really is sufficient.

That's quite the juxtaposition, though I guess you're no stranger to contradictions, given how quickly you'll U-turn on your views depending on the party.

It’s really not difficult. But let’s take just one example.

The Tories used private jets. Is that wrong? Sunak didn’t think so. Labour did. They made a fierce attack on the Tories for it. There’s an argument there about the use of public money, sure.

Then Labour hopped on private jets as soon as they were in power.

That’s what hypocrisy is.