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First 100 days

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Iwishicouldflyhigh · 12/10/2024 10:08

whoever you voted for, what are your thoughts after the First 100 Days?
I didn’t vote for Labour, but I was quite excited in their first few weeks as Keir got his head down and I was excited fir change.

Now I just feel deflated. Same old….freebiegate, nitpicking, infighting. A bit depressing really.

i don’t even think there was a decent alternative really….and that’s even more depressing!!!!!

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Chrysalistastic · 18/10/2024 15:28

Rockalittle78 · 18/10/2024 14:38

Touched a nerve I see.

No but it’s obvious how much you try to. Pathetic. Can you not get your kicks some other way or does your imagination not stretch that far?

Rockalittle78 · 18/10/2024 15:41

Ahem, moving on.

Back to the thread.

EasternStandard · 18/10/2024 15:46

I’m zoning out of the drip feed of all the tax rises incoming but I thought of a pre GE line today ‘fully funded, fully costed’

Reeves and repeated that a fair few times. Seems to have been expunged. We are going to have an incredibly high tax burden.

Rockalittle78 · 18/10/2024 15:53

EasternStandard · 18/10/2024 15:46

I’m zoning out of the drip feed of all the tax rises incoming but I thought of a pre GE line today ‘fully funded, fully costed’

Reeves and repeated that a fair few times. Seems to have been expunged. We are going to have an incredibly high tax burden.

I fear so too.

Designing policy on ideological grounds, and then trying on the economics subsequently is a recipe for disaster.

The Labour way, and an unmitigated cluster fq.

pointythings · 18/10/2024 16:01

Rockalittle78 · 18/10/2024 15:53

I fear so too.

Designing policy on ideological grounds, and then trying on the economics subsequently is a recipe for disaster.

The Labour way, and an unmitigated cluster fq.

To be fair it has very much been the Tory way for the last 5 years too.

Rockalittle78 · 18/10/2024 16:03

pointythings · 18/10/2024 16:01

To be fair it has very much been the Tory way for the last 5 years too.

I cannot/will not defend the Tories - we are here for a reason.

But it’s Labours to own now - they can’t keep
inflating the black hole, and any errors now will be theirs alone.

edit ignore the mixed metaphor.

EasternStandard · 18/10/2024 16:04

Rockalittle78 · 18/10/2024 15:53

I fear so too.

Designing policy on ideological grounds, and then trying on the economics subsequently is a recipe for disaster.

The Labour way, and an unmitigated cluster fq.

It was a lie at that point surely

It wasn’t fully funded, nor fully costed

Rockalittle78 · 18/10/2024 16:05

EasternStandard · 18/10/2024 16:04

It was a lie at that point surely

It wasn’t fully funded, nor fully costed

I think so.

Sunak called it, for all his faults.

EasternStandard · 18/10/2024 16:12

Rockalittle78 · 18/10/2024 16:05

I think so.

Sunak called it, for all his faults.

The media backlash was there over that for Sunak

I think the press has changed in tone since, I hope they bring up that old statement

Or maybe people are meant to forget anything they said pre GE

pointythings · 18/10/2024 16:40

I am taking a wait see approach. There's a lot to mend and the least we can do is allow the government time to do it. I gave the Tories 2 years in 2010 before starting with the negatives and I suggest we all be a bit more reasonable.

OctaveoOctober · 18/10/2024 16:46

Well it just feels like a huge doom cloud?
Austerity mark 2??
Beggars belief they went after pensioners, very rich ones :fine! But the threshold is too low..
They have not done any investment in fe!

The sleaze? Tickets, drew this and that and Lord Ali.

"we will tread lightly on your lives" but with a huge massive steel capped for boot.

Doom and gloom rubbish.

Rockalittle78 · 18/10/2024 16:49

pointythings · 18/10/2024 16:40

I am taking a wait see approach. There's a lot to mend and the least we can do is allow the government time to do it. I gave the Tories 2 years in 2010 before starting with the negatives and I suggest we all be a bit more reasonable.

Fair enough but I think the propensity to be reasonable may be linked with how directly policy affects you. WFA cuts and PS VAT are pretty instantaneous.

Behaviours are shaped, understandably.

pointythings · 18/10/2024 17:13

Rockalittle78 · 18/10/2024 16:49

Fair enough but I think the propensity to be reasonable may be linked with how directly policy affects you. WFA cuts and PS VAT are pretty instantaneous.

Behaviours are shaped, understandably.

Of course, and I actually agree that the WFA policy as it stands is a bad one - it should have been planned for next year, with a full impact assessment and a cutoff that's more reasonable. But I'm not against means testing it.

I'm also wary of benefit reform because I'm the parent of a disabled adult child who gets higher rate PIP. I get very annoyed when people don't seem to understand that it isn't an out of work benefit - my DS is currently back at university after a year out, but during that year he worked. PIP enables him to work part time, which given his many complex and incurable health issues is all he can do. The last government's relentless campaign of punitive and abusive rhetoric against people like him has done immense damage, and it offends me that people are still buying into it.

On private schools I think there should be exemptions for schools which offer specialist education for SEN, but otherwise I think private education is a privilege, not a right.

PinkFruitbat · 18/10/2024 18:04

Trying to keep track of all the budget leaks/market testing is exhausting but so far it seems to be…

Sick benefits cut
Inheritance tax gift years raised to 10 years
Capital gains tax raised on shares
Employer National Insurance raised
Income tax level freeze extended

on top of winter fuel allowance cut, and VAT on School fees.

Going to be a lean Christmas in the Fruitbat house!

pointythings · 18/10/2024 18:28

Going to be a lean Christmas in the Fruitbat house!

You could always cancel your subscription to the FT...

Rockalittle78 · 18/10/2024 18:35

pointythings · 18/10/2024 17:13

Of course, and I actually agree that the WFA policy as it stands is a bad one - it should have been planned for next year, with a full impact assessment and a cutoff that's more reasonable. But I'm not against means testing it.

I'm also wary of benefit reform because I'm the parent of a disabled adult child who gets higher rate PIP. I get very annoyed when people don't seem to understand that it isn't an out of work benefit - my DS is currently back at university after a year out, but during that year he worked. PIP enables him to work part time, which given his many complex and incurable health issues is all he can do. The last government's relentless campaign of punitive and abusive rhetoric against people like him has done immense damage, and it offends me that people are still buying into it.

On private schools I think there should be exemptions for schools which offer specialist education for SEN, but otherwise I think private education is a privilege, not a right.

Re PS - again, for Labour it’s ideological, not a revenue raising measure - let’s be honest.
They won’t be able to recruit 6,500 additional state school teachers etc.

Ditto re non-doms, it’s politicking.

I agree with you re PIP - your DS deserves the support and that is exactly right.

PinkFruitbat · 18/10/2024 18:54

pointythings · 18/10/2024 18:28

Going to be a lean Christmas in the Fruitbat house!

You could always cancel your subscription to the FT...

Lol - it’s a basic need not a luxury ;-).

Chrysalistastic · 18/10/2024 20:23

Rockalittle78 · 18/10/2024 14:58

Yeah the PP has an unhealthy obsession with me, evidently.

Don't flatter yourself. I find the majority of your views abhorrent and your constant rudeness grates.

Chrysalistastic · 18/10/2024 20:33

pointythings · 18/10/2024 17:13

Of course, and I actually agree that the WFA policy as it stands is a bad one - it should have been planned for next year, with a full impact assessment and a cutoff that's more reasonable. But I'm not against means testing it.

I'm also wary of benefit reform because I'm the parent of a disabled adult child who gets higher rate PIP. I get very annoyed when people don't seem to understand that it isn't an out of work benefit - my DS is currently back at university after a year out, but during that year he worked. PIP enables him to work part time, which given his many complex and incurable health issues is all he can do. The last government's relentless campaign of punitive and abusive rhetoric against people like him has done immense damage, and it offends me that people are still buying into it.

On private schools I think there should be exemptions for schools which offer specialist education for SEN, but otherwise I think private education is a privilege, not a right.

Agree completely with your views on WFA.

Understand your frustrations regarding PIP. Of course your son should get it.

Agree re VAT and specialist SEN schools but the issue is that there are many SEN DC in mainstream private schools because the state system has failed them. In many cases these parents are not wealthy at all but trying their best to find an environment that can support their DC to be able to be in school. I don't think they should have to pay VAT.

Rockalittle78 · 18/10/2024 20:52

Chrysalistastic · 18/10/2024 20:23

Don't flatter yourself. I find the majority of your views abhorrent and your constant rudeness grates.

Listen, I’m not interested in engaging with you, and if I’ve got under your skin so badly, I assume you feel similarly, so do us both a favour and stop engaging with me, ok?

That will be my last word to you.

Jumpingthruhoops · 19/10/2024 00:19

MrsSchrute · 12/10/2024 10:21

Voted labour. So far, so good.

Good? In what respect?

pointythings · 19/10/2024 08:58

Jumpingthruhoops · 19/10/2024 00:19

Good? In what respect?

In the respect that Labour have done many good things (which you don't agree with). They'll need time to come to fruition, but they're there.

Mookie81 · 19/10/2024 08:59

Rockalittle78 · 18/10/2024 07:25

Your low-grade job beckons.

Off you go.

Yeah, being a primary teacher on SLT and a safeguarding lead trying to protect vulnerable children is so 'low-grade'.
Nice try. Grin

pointythings · 19/10/2024 09:14

@Mookie81 this is the tactic the Labour bashers like to use. If you support Labour, they attack based on the assumption that you are either on benefits or working in a low grade job, because obviously only poor losers vote Labour. It's pathetic. It's also all they've got, given what their party has come to and where it's going with the two leadership candidates they have chosen.

Chrysalistastic · 19/10/2024 09:40

Rockalittle78 · 18/10/2024 20:52

Listen, I’m not interested in engaging with you, and if I’ve got under your skin so badly, I assume you feel similarly, so do us both a favour and stop engaging with me, ok?

That will be my last word to you.

With thread contributions such as "Your low-grade job beckons.
Off you go", the withholding of your words is just fine.