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First 100 days

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Iwishicouldflyhigh · 12/10/2024 10:08

whoever you voted for, what are your thoughts after the First 100 Days?
I didn’t vote for Labour, but I was quite excited in their first few weeks as Keir got his head down and I was excited fir change.

Now I just feel deflated. Same old….freebiegate, nitpicking, infighting. A bit depressing really.

i don’t even think there was a decent alternative really….and that’s even more depressing!!!!!

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cardibach · 16/10/2024 11:46

nearlylovemyusername · 15/10/2024 16:55

So back to Mounjaro:
Obesity: Unemployed could get weight loss jabs to return to work - BBC News

Nearly 250,000 people are expected to receive the Mounjaro jab over the next three years, officials said.

250,000 people x 3 years x £1000 (jabs cost per year per person) = £0.75bn

They are talking about £22bn gap?????

Edited

That’s the figure as of now, nothing to do with the study (which also isn’t policy, or an ‘announcement’ of any sort about an upcoming one). It’s not about free drugs for unemployed people. Plus have you considered what it might save if obesity rates are lowered and with them obesity related illness and disability?

Edit: you’ve also misunderstood the wording. That means over the next 3 years 250000 people will be prescribed it, not all at once right now and for the next 3 years. Some will come off it 8n that time too.

Rummly · 16/10/2024 11:48

cardibach · 16/10/2024 11:44

Is that the £40bn that was a predictable outcome of Brexit and forecast in studies before the referendum, but ignored by xenophobic anti-EU types?

No, it’s the completely arbitrary figure plucked from thin air by Reeves and Starmer, solely for party political purposes and entirely unsubstantiated.

cardibach · 16/10/2024 11:51

Rummly · 16/10/2024 11:48

No, it’s the completely arbitrary figure plucked from thin air by Reeves and Starmer, solely for party political purposes and entirely unsubstantiated.

Except we know there’s likely to be that figure (or thereabouts) due to impact assessments on Brexit, don’t we?

EasternStandard · 16/10/2024 11:55

PinkFruitbat · 16/10/2024 10:31

So now the talk is of a 40bn black hole…

The tax increases (for some) will be savage!

I heard that. Depressing

Up, down they need to reel in and manage messaging

PinkFruitbat · 16/10/2024 11:56

cardibach · 16/10/2024 11:44

Is that the £40bn that was a predictable outcome of Brexit and forecast in studies before the referendum, but ignored by xenophobic anti-EU types?

Might be. Certainly in part.

it seems a combo of 25bn budget shortfall and 15bn carved out for investing in other areas. So tax rise and spending cuts.

cardibach · 16/10/2024 11:57

PinkFruitbat · 16/10/2024 11:56

Might be. Certainly in part.

it seems a combo of 25bn budget shortfall and 15bn carved out for investing in other areas. So tax rise and spending cuts.

Or borrowing.
Or increased investment.
Or a combination of all of the above.
Let’s not second guess the budget any more than everyone already has been.

PinkFruitbat · 16/10/2024 12:01

The FT covers it all in some depth:

www.ft.com/content/a209fbc7-1c35-478b-8a87-b8d4070e736a

cardibach · 16/10/2024 12:10

PinkFruitbat · 16/10/2024 12:01

The FT covers it all in some depth:

www.ft.com/content/a209fbc7-1c35-478b-8a87-b8d4070e736a

It’s behind a paywall so I can’t read it. I still think everyone, including the media (of all sides) should stop the speculation and wait - as used to broadly happen until Johnson’s government started feeding bits and pieces to the press.

PinkFruitbat · 16/10/2024 12:20

cardibach · 16/10/2024 12:10

It’s behind a paywall so I can’t read it. I still think everyone, including the media (of all sides) should stop the speculation and wait - as used to broadly happen until Johnson’s government started feeding bits and pieces to the press.

Do you not subscribe to the FT?

cardibach · 16/10/2024 12:22

PinkFruitbat · 16/10/2024 12:20

Do you not subscribe to the FT?

No. I don’t subscribe to any online papers. According to google about 1 million people do, so I don’t think I’m that unusual. Why would you assume anyone does?
Edit: I mean do subscribe to FT, not to any online paper.

OctoberOctopus · 16/10/2024 12:24

MrsSchrute · 12/10/2024 10:27

So far, off the top of my head, the two main things are cancelling the Rwanda plan and the reforms to Ofsted. Good moves both.
I'm sure there are many more I could mention.

I think people concentrate on the negative, naturally, particularly if it affects them eg private school parents and often ignore everything else.

PinkFruitbat · 16/10/2024 12:27

cardibach · 16/10/2024 12:22

No. I don’t subscribe to any online papers. According to google about 1 million people do, so I don’t think I’m that unusual. Why would you assume anyone does?
Edit: I mean do subscribe to FT, not to any online paper.

Edited

I clearly swim in different waters…

cardibach · 16/10/2024 12:47

PinkFruitbat · 16/10/2024 12:27

I clearly swim in different waters…

I’m finding your responses on this a bit odd and condescending. You don’t really believe everyone subscribes to the FT do you? Or that doing that makes you better informed/superior in some way - because that’s how you sound?

pointythings · 16/10/2024 12:55

PinkFruitbat · 16/10/2024 12:27

I clearly swim in different waters…

Well, that doesn't come across badly at all.

Maybe stepping out into the real world, where people do essential and often low paid jobs and worry about making ends meet week to week would be an eye opener for you?

PinkFruitbat · 16/10/2024 13:17

pointythings · 16/10/2024 12:55

Well, that doesn't come across badly at all.

Maybe stepping out into the real world, where people do essential and often low paid jobs and worry about making ends meet week to week would be an eye opener for you?

But still drink, smoke, gamble, and watch subscription TV.

Any of which would pay for an FT subscription and the benefits that brings.

It’s priorities really; and what we value.

pointythings · 16/10/2024 14:09

PinkFruitbat · 16/10/2024 13:17

But still drink, smoke, gamble, and watch subscription TV.

Any of which would pay for an FT subscription and the benefits that brings.

It’s priorities really; and what we value.

Seriously, your prejudices are showing. Best put those away if you want to be taken seriously. Unless of course this is satire - because really, people surely don't STILL believe the shite the right wing media spread about people on low pay?

Rockalittle78 · 16/10/2024 14:26

London Underground strikes announced for November.

Quelle surprise….

nearlylovemyusername · 16/10/2024 14:28

London Underground: Tube drivers to strike over pay - BBC News

Aslef is seeking a pay agreement with London Underground, which has offered a 3.8% pay rise and a variable lump sum.
Mr Brennan said the offer would leave members on a lower salary than drivers on other TfL services, such as the Elizabeth line and Overground.

I wonder how many employees in private sector have more that 3.8% rise. It's not even they say that salaries are low, they are just lower.

It won't be over with 40bn tax rises, it will be 42-45-50 in a week time. I guess higher earners will just go on strike whilst non doms simply flee

pointythings · 16/10/2024 14:40

Meanwhile review of carer allowance overpayment rules announced. Or is only bad news allowed?

pointythings · 16/10/2024 14:41

Oh, and the consultation on the Tories ' green paper on PIP scrapped. Also good.

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cardibach · 16/10/2024 14:51

PinkFruitbat · 16/10/2024 13:17

But still drink, smoke, gamble, and watch subscription TV.

Any of which would pay for an FT subscription and the benefits that brings.

It’s priorities really; and what we value.

Wait…what?
This started with you assuming I would have an FT subscription and being condescending about it.
I have never smoked. I don’t gamble, not even the lottery. Not even stocks and shares. I drink alcohol in moderation. I spend a small amount on subscription TV (including the BBC licence).
I don’t think the FT would add a huge amount to my life or levels of information - I do value being well informed and politically aware, but there’s more than one way to skin that cat.
Where the actual fuck did you get all that crap from?

OctoberOctopus · 16/10/2024 14:51

pointythings · 16/10/2024 14:40

Meanwhile review of carer allowance overpayment rules announced. Or is only bad news allowed?

That's good. I'd not heard that since carers provide a vital role and save the government millions.

PinkFruitbat · 16/10/2024 15:30

cardibach · 16/10/2024 14:51

Wait…what?
This started with you assuming I would have an FT subscription and being condescending about it.
I have never smoked. I don’t gamble, not even the lottery. Not even stocks and shares. I drink alcohol in moderation. I spend a small amount on subscription TV (including the BBC licence).
I don’t think the FT would add a huge amount to my life or levels of information - I do value being well informed and politically aware, but there’s more than one way to skin that cat.
Where the actual fuck did you get all that crap from?

Edited

My reply wasn’t to yourself directly!

pointythings · 16/10/2024 15:38

PinkFruitbat · 16/10/2024 15:30

My reply wasn’t to yourself directly!

No, it was a hideous sweeping generalisation about people who don't read the FT or are not rich.