To think sometimes people use words without fully understanding them?

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There were a few examples in my previous AIBU thread. Including, but not limited to:

Genocide
Antisemitism
Zionism
Ethnic Cleansing

These are strong trigger words for many people, myself included, but I think they are often misused and/or misunderstood.

Thoughts?

My Mum does it with medical words

If a country wants to feel safe, they HAVE to treat their neighbours better

But Israel were. They withdrew from Gaza in 2005, I think it was. Lots of money was given to Gaza to enable itself to build so that there could be peaceful co-existence. Israel tolerated the regular rockets sent over from Gaza to Israel as they had the Iron dome. Israel was treating its neighbours better.

And look how that turned out for Israel. The people slaughtered on October 7th were the peaceful left wing Israelis, the type who did initiatives to bring Israelis and Palestinians together. The ones who wanted a secure peaceful future for all. I know of a family in one of the Kibbutz who were friends with a Palestinian man. Turns out he used his knowledge from visiting them to inform the Hamas terrorist attacks on them.

It is just astonishing that people can say things like 'they have to treat their neighbours better' with such a complete lack of reflection and insight.

Yes, treating neighbours better has to include things like not launching a brutal terrorist attack on children, women and men, raping, burning, torturing, murdering and hostage taking. But somehow, extraordinarily, I don't think, that is what you meant.

It is only Israel. who has the responsibility to be the 'better neighbour' no matter what atrocity befalls them. The ' bad neighbour' narrative will not be applied to those who attack Israel.

It is this, this absolute blind prejudice. The refusal to acknowledge that Something Happened to Israel, that sparked all this. The refusal to apportion blame or responsibility to those who DELIBERATELY AND KNOWINGLY started this conflict on October 7th. It is this that shows the utter blind hatred and prejudice that means these people will always condemn Israel. no matter what, but never those who attack Israel. This poster, however unwittingly, could not have proved this blinding hatred more clearly. And it clearly has blinded him or her from seeing clearly.

People who keep using generally when they mean genuinely 🙈

Happens on reality TV a lot!

You really think they were being neighbourly before Oct 7th?
That's so nauve and untrue.
Astounding

Oops, I overthink that one sometimes and get it backward, dagnamit.

You're right, I was hasty.

Do you accept that Hamas on October 7th deliberately broke a ceasefire to start a conflict?
I wouldn’t use the word ceasefire, as you wouldn’t use genocide or apartheid, but yes Hamas definitely started this round of it.
Do you hold Hamas responsible for the suffering deaths on October 7th and the subsequent suffering and death?
Suffering and deaths on October 7th? Absolutely. All subsequent suffering and death- No, I am loathe to give any government a Carte Blanche, I do hold Israel responsible for their own actions, which I think have passed way beyond defending themselves, or even rooting out Hamas into Genocide (But I accept you think differently, and seem to place no limits on any actions Israel might take)

Do you condemn Hamas for this?
Of course I do- killing people is wrong. Rape is wrong.

So having answered you questions, I will ask you again.

Who or what specifically was Netanyahu referring to with the words “this evil city” and “we will act everywhere”? If you could answer taking into account the actions he has taken in the meantime that would be great.

PleaseAskSomeoneWhoGivesAFuck: You really think they were being neighbourly before Oct 7th

Hamas attacked and brutally murdered the very people who were trying to be neighbourly, the peaceniks living by the border who had welcomed them into their homes. They used the knowledge gained by that welcome to attack them. How can you defend that?

Thank you for your articulate outrage!

I see very clearly. I have been to both "Israel" and "Palestine" and witnessed with my own eyes the apartheid system in place, the horror of the settlements. I have supported the Palestinian solidarity campaign for over 10 years. My aborrance at the way the Israeli government treats Palestinians set in long before Oct 7th.

The events of October 7th were horrendous. Of course I condemn what happened. It was awful. But what has followed is incomprehensibly evil. Furthermore, while I totally condemn the attacks of Oct 7th, it doesn't take a genius to see how the conditions arose that led to Oct 7th. If you treat people like animals, if you kill their family and steal their land, some of them will eventually act like animals.

I absolutely hate the actions of the Israeli government. It is so unbelievable to me that you can wage war on an imprisoned population. All other countries have means of escape when bombs hit. Children of Gaza have nowhere to go. They are on a prison watching as their family, friends, parents, schools, hospitals and futures are destroyed and some people seem to think this is all ok. It is inhumane and unspeakably evil.

havent heard dagnamit in ages!

How are the family from the Kibbutz faring now? They must be traumatized by their experience, to have given such trust and had it so brutally abused is appalling.

Why did Hamas build tunnels for their munitions and their leaders and not for the people of Gaza?

You're wrong. If one literally died of embarrassment then they'd be dead.

Well yes, obviously some people use words without properly understanding their meaning. People also use a more extreme word to describe something that is not very extreme. This is called exaggeration and it's a perfectly normal human use of language. Of course most people know they didn't 'literally die' when they say that!

I think actually she is correct.
In recent times literally has literally and officially acquired an additional meaning of (b) very or extremely but not actually literally.
it has become like inflammable.

I haven't read the full thread .. however, I spend half my life ( or it feels it!) Using the dictionary on my kindle! .. I won't use words I don't know the meaning of, but I don't half feel thick checking the meaning of words!

Yup, council estate, ( scheme actually) married well enough where he's making me middle class... by God, it's weird for us poor folks. Lol8

You should be pleased with yourself that you're choosing to read things that challenge you, and don't ever feel stupid for looking up words, you're learning as you go and there's no shame in ignorance, only in willful ignorance.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/8/7/timeline-israels-attacks-on-gaza-since-2005

Yes not one bit of aggression by Israel since 2005. 😡

Have you got examples?

I can't speak for them, but I find I get exasparated when people exacerbate an easily solved problem. 😎

"The new teacher really exasperated the situation in the classroom," I mean they probably were exasperated, but they had exacerbated the situation.

Apartheid

Example?

Say what?