To think people's manners in public are deteriorating

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Last week til now I've noticed:

• Someone watching porn out loud on the DLR
• People listening to videos and music loudly even on the morning train (it happens on later trains but I've not noticed it before during the morning commute)
• People pushing and not saying sorry. Just simply avoiding eye contact

It's been really unpleasant. Are people boy embarrassed to behave this way?

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Good for you! Wish I had the balls.

@Cattery this is one of my pet hates! Driving into the small town where DD goes to school, there are always cars parked in the street so I end up giving way to a few cars both on my way in and my way out of the town. I’ve seen 6 or 7 cars pass and only one acknowledgment of me waiting for them, and that’s a regular occurrence. I couldn’t do that! It’s the same when you step to the side to let people through in a shop - the number of people who just barge right through without a word of thanks is ridiculous.

Which do you think is ruder:

Person a) Doesn't say thanks to a customer.
or
Person B) Decides, "I don't care about the people waiting behind me, I'm going to stand here until I can embarrass you into saying thanks."

I know my answer!

I was literally just thinking this as I was coming down the escalator in the tube with yet another person behind me having a conversation on speaker phone. Just why?

Now I'm a regular commuter though I have got braver at asking people to take their phone off of speaker. I managed it with just a look the other day when someone followed me all the way down the platform and then went to sit down next to me.

Shocking isn’t it. The entitlement and lack of self awareness x

Me too @KrisAkabusi !

Thought I must have misunderstood that post at first... someone deliberately holds up a queue of people waiting to pay and get on with their days, so they can embarrass someone and make a point?

Erm yeah, the cashier is a little rude, but that is sheer bellendery!

I had a day off recently child free (3 under 6 at the time) and went to the cinema alone so I could pick a film without dh and only ONE other person in the room. That person sat two seats away from me (why) and then watched YouTube videos on loud when the film was on 😡 I cut evils until he decided to leave the movie after about half hour. Guess he didn't like the film

Juat had this today. Was at a car dealership waiting room for my car to be serviced and an older gentleman on the next table started watching a news video on his phone at max volume. I politely asked if he wouldn't mind turning it down or wearing headphones and got an eye roll and a very snappy "Oh, for goodness' sake!" for my troubles. He did switch it off, but spent the next 10 minutes tutting and glaring at me until someone called him to pick up his car. So awkward.

People have also got very impolite with filming. Yesterday I noticed a girl taking a photo of me on the train (it's because of my dress), I got up, stood behind her looking at her phone screen to confirm to myself that that's what had just happened, then moved to the other end of the train carriage. She at least had the decency to look embarrassed. Also, I was on my way to yoga and someone filmed in the class, too. I didn't say anything about either incident because it's just the way it is now and risks drawing more attention or going viral. I find filming a lot worse than people watching things on speaker, tbh.

A please would go a way towards general manners though, even without eye contact.

Although I agree about people with autism or other conditions/mental health issues and eye contact though.
On any thread about benefits etc you will have people demanding that people with disabilities who can work should - but then society isn't willing to make any allowances for those disabilities, certainly where customer service is concerned, it's got to be perfect without fail and if it's not then there's an opportunity to make a big fuss and have a bit of attention, regardless of any disabilities.
I do agree that a please and/or thank you is basic manners however eye contact can be extremely uncomfortable for some people, and as long as the person serving you does serve you and is polite, lack of eye contact shouldn't be such a big deal.
But unfortunately people like to make a big deal out of the smallest things.

If a person is in a customer service role and cannot employ very basic manners, then they deserve to be called out on it.

There is a young lady working in our local tesco petrol station who doesn't even acknowledge your presence when you go in to pay. Will just stand at the counter and when told the pump number doesn't even say how much it is. I now take the approach of waiting to be asked what pump mine is. It is not autism or anything else as she can speak fine when made to, all I get is an eye roll. Pure rudeness.

Because I wasn't entirely sure who's phone the noise was coming from. I wasn't being directly rude to the lady, but throwing the comment out there.