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To think this was disgraceful?

102 replies

solooddbod · 06/10/2024 12:26

Yesterday while queuing in a supermarket behind me two grandparents were with their grown up daughter and small Granddaughter around 6 . Every other word was the F word in front of the child and the grandmother answered her phone and was becoming more irate calling whoever it was on the end of the line a C* repeatedly. In front of her Granddaughter ! I was just cringing inside and thankful I didn't have my Grandchildren with me as they were not the sort of people you could politely ask to moderate their language.

I think it's disgusting to use that sort of language in public and especially in front of small ones . Ok , I appreciate we can all slip up occasionally, I've done it myself , but you could tell this was part of their normal everyday conversation. When did it become the norm to use the C word so casually and in front of small children? It just made my stomach churn 🤢🤮

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Swanbeauty · 06/10/2024 14:06

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PuggyPuggyPuggy · 06/10/2024 14:07

KnottedTwine · 06/10/2024 13:36

They really don't think they are doing anything wrong.

I also think that for many people it's so deeply entrenched that they don't even realise they're doing it. Every single sentence is about going to the fucking shop to buy fucking bread for the fucking sandwiches and whether to have fucking cheese or fucking ham.

I live in an area full of these sort of people. I've heard one of my neighbours screeching at her little boy who was around 4 or 5 at the time "NO YOU FUCKING CAN'T COME WITH ME! YOU'VE GOT NO FUCKING SHOES ON! GET BACK IN THE FUCKING HOUSE!" 😣 It's absolutely grim.

Cattery · 06/10/2024 14:10

Bignanna · 06/10/2024 14:04

If you never shop there, how do you know what it’s like? I shop in different supermarkets, Lidl is the same as any other, just good value.

I walked in and walked out. It’s not the same as any other supermarket. They don’t unpack the boxes; you have to do that plus self service tills only. Horrible place

Swanbeauty · 06/10/2024 14:12

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Bignanna · 06/10/2024 14:19

Cattery · 06/10/2024 14:10

I walked in and walked out. It’s not the same as any other supermarket. They don’t unpack the boxes; you have to do that plus self service tills only. Horrible place

Certainly not typical of our local Lidl, and most tills are manned. The shelves are replenished by staff constantly. I take it you have not been inside a Lidl for many years? Try shopping in one now ( and Aldi) you might be pleasantly surprised!

thepariscrimefiles · 06/10/2024 14:29

Bignanna · 06/10/2024 13:40

Yet these words are freely used on Mumsnet, and though children probably don’t visit this site, a lot of it is unnecessary.

All swearing is unnecessary, but on here it is sometimes appropriate and often funny.

Swearing at and/or in front of children is completely different and wrong.

Livelovebehappy · 06/10/2024 14:30

TheOriginalEmu · 06/10/2024 12:34

They’re just words. 🤷🏼‍♀️

I really don’t get this thought process. I have a relative who used to not mind her pre teen children swearing in front of her, saying that in the grand scheme of things it was just words and no big deal. But it is a big deal. It’s just about showing respect for other people, and nothing sounds worse than hearing bad language out of the mouths of children. Mine were never allowed to use bad language - I’m sure they may have used it with mates, but even now as adults they respectfully don’t swear in front of me. Awful when you here a child tell their parent to fuck off…

AlisonWonderbra · 06/10/2024 14:31

Mumsnet is the only place I know where people are offended by swearing.

I don't swear AT my children but I do swear in front of them and it's never caused any issues. They know better than to repeat the words because it would get them into trouble.

I fucking love a good swear.

Livelovebehappy · 06/10/2024 14:31

hear

ClareBlue · 06/10/2024 14:33

It loses its impact and becomes background noise when used all the time. People only react to swearing if it is used selectively to really show how you feel. The whole point of swearing is to not use it very often. It's like continuous threats to children with no actions. It just becomes the norm for them. It's become the norm so isn't shocking, just sad.

JaneEyreLaughing · 06/10/2024 14:33

TheOriginalEmu · 06/10/2024 12:34

They’re just words. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Sure are. I guess you're used to people addressing you as a "fucking cunt", asking if you would like a "fucking shitting lager" and probably do the same yourself.

Set the bar higher and read a book or two,

ClareBlue · 06/10/2024 14:34

AlisonWonderbra · 06/10/2024 14:31

Mumsnet is the only place I know where people are offended by swearing.

I don't swear AT my children but I do swear in front of them and it's never caused any issues. They know better than to repeat the words because it would get them into trouble.

I fucking love a good swear.

So you do it but they know better than to do it. Why the double standard.

VoteLabour · 06/10/2024 14:35

@Cattery , the stores vary. There are two near me and they are quite different. I usually go to Aldi, although I prefer Lidl's offerings, because the store seems nicer.

Nanny0gg · 06/10/2024 14:35

AlisonWonderbra · 06/10/2024 14:31

Mumsnet is the only place I know where people are offended by swearing.

I don't swear AT my children but I do swear in front of them and it's never caused any issues. They know better than to repeat the words because it would get them into trouble.

I fucking love a good swear.

Why?

Why do they need to hear it from their parents (even if they're teens)

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 06/10/2024 14:41

I grew up in the east end before it was the middle class haven it is today, cunt was a term of affection, swearing was very normal. I now have multiple degrees, post graduate qualifications and a professional career, I don't call my colleagues cunts (to their faces)

JaneEyreLaughing · 06/10/2024 14:49

@MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira

I think a lot of us are like that. We all know these words, maybe use them in our heads and use them when appropriate-like when we are very angry or frustrated.

However, there is a certain type of person- becoming ever more prevalent-who are not teenage boys, boxers or soldiers but just normal people-some of whom are even on this thread defending it.

They now see no need to respect the ground rules of society. In fact, they are changing them and feel happy to curse loudly in supermarkets, at the teachers of their children, to a vicar, to a doctor or just about anywhere in public.

They may be less educated or have been dragged up but there were always people like this but most of them didn't let rip in a supermarket.

So stupidity and ignorance play a part-it's frustrating to have a poor command of English when it is your native tongue- and we can all appreciate how frustrating that is but today, there are just too many of them who don't mind exposing these failings in public.

Another step down for all of us.

Bignanna · 06/10/2024 14:52

VoteLabour · 06/10/2024 14:35

@Cattery , the stores vary. There are two near me and they are quite different. I usually go to Aldi, although I prefer Lidl's offerings, because the store seems nicer.

Many years ago, when Lidl first started in the U.K., there were boxes on crates, and piled on the floor, instead of it being set out properly. It’s come a long way since then. Now it is just like any other Supermarket - spacious, clean, well presented. Their Christmas stuff is great! Cattery must have been in one of the early ones.

Cattery · 06/10/2024 15:12

Bignanna · 06/10/2024 14:19

Certainly not typical of our local Lidl, and most tills are manned. The shelves are replenished by staff constantly. I take it you have not been inside a Lidl for many years? Try shopping in one now ( and Aldi) you might be pleasantly surprised!

Thanks but I’ll stick to my usual supermarket x

Cattery · 06/10/2024 15:13

Bignanna · 06/10/2024 14:52

Many years ago, when Lidl first started in the U.K., there were boxes on crates, and piled on the floor, instead of it being set out properly. It’s come a long way since then. Now it is just like any other Supermarket - spacious, clean, well presented. Their Christmas stuff is great! Cattery must have been in one of the early ones.

I went in the latest one to open near me. Think it’s been there about a year? Just over?

MissRoseDurward · 06/10/2024 15:13

If you're asking people whether they want fucking cheese or fucking ham in their cunt of a sandwich, what do you say when you're genuinely outraged/upset/frustrated?

I once had this conversation with someone I knew. She said she had worked with young people in the past, and it was a real problem. Because they used up all their swear words in everyday speech, they had no vocabulary left to express anger or frustration, so aggression was often the first resort.

stayathomer · 06/10/2024 15:17

Is Lidl different in the uk than Ireland? I’d find Lidl’s more expensive than Aldi or Tesco! Can’t afford to shop there 😅😅😅

Bignanna · 06/10/2024 15:27

Cattery · 06/10/2024 15:13

I went in the latest one to open near me. Think it’s been there about a year? Just over?

Perhaps they were still unpacking as it was new. You seem to be very unlucky in your Lidl experience. Must be some reason for the huge popularity of Lidl and Aldi, and plenty more in the pipeline!

VoteLabour · 06/10/2024 15:45

stayathomer · 06/10/2024 15:17

Is Lidl different in the uk than Ireland? I’d find Lidl’s more expensive than Aldi or Tesco! Can’t afford to shop there 😅😅😅

I went to Aldi last week and similar items were a few pence dearer in Lidl yesterday. They were like-for-like items (e.g. own brand washing-up liquid).
I've no idea what the stores in Ireland are like.

Thfrog · 06/10/2024 15:47

I love lidl. It's far cheaper than the tesco near me and better quality than Asda.

And I've not heard anyone swearing in it..

AlisonWonderbra · 06/10/2024 17:55

@ClareBlue they know/knew (one is now an adult) better than to do it at school because it would get them into trouble.