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To think this was disgraceful?

102 replies

solooddbod · 06/10/2024 12:26

Yesterday while queuing in a supermarket behind me two grandparents were with their grown up daughter and small Granddaughter around 6 . Every other word was the F word in front of the child and the grandmother answered her phone and was becoming more irate calling whoever it was on the end of the line a C* repeatedly. In front of her Granddaughter ! I was just cringing inside and thankful I didn't have my Grandchildren with me as they were not the sort of people you could politely ask to moderate their language.

I think it's disgusting to use that sort of language in public and especially in front of small ones . Ok , I appreciate we can all slip up occasionally, I've done it myself , but you could tell this was part of their normal everyday conversation. When did it become the norm to use the C word so casually and in front of small children? It just made my stomach churn 🤢🤮

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ginasevern · 06/10/2024 12:58

TheOriginalEmu · 06/10/2024 12:34

They’re just words. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Tell that to a prospective employer or try talking to an NHS worker or the police like it. I don't think it would end well - for you I mean.

Notaflippinclue · 06/10/2024 13:02

I would go to another queue with an obvious grimace on my face

Allthehorsesintheworld · 06/10/2024 13:04

I used to teach kids with “challenging behaviour” . Vast majority came from chaotic homes, lots of shouting, swearing, lots of background noise. They expected to be yelled at as they weren’t used to be being spoken to or listened to. Number of times I had a kid in my face , shouting venom. My voice firm but quiet, many a jaw dropped when they realised I wouldn’t shout back, wouldn’t swear at them.
I’m afraid the young girl could be destined to become a future “challenging” pupil, not 100% a definite but sad all the same to have that life.

Volare123 · 06/10/2024 13:05

Well, I went to a playground in the summer where quite a few children aged between 8 and 12 used the F word in every sentence whilst playing with each other 😳. That was quite shocking to see and we won't be going back there any time soon.

Marblesbackagain · 06/10/2024 13:07

I am quite gifted in bad language as and when required. But have the intelligence to know where and when appropriate. It doesn't half work well with absolute scrotes who don't expect it from my appearance.

thepariscrimefiles · 06/10/2024 13:08

TheOriginalEmu · 06/10/2024 12:34

They’re just words. 🤷🏼‍♀️

I swear a lot including the 'c' word but would never do so in front of children. I moderate my language significantly in front of my grandchildren, e.g.oh my goodness instead of oh my god.

Young children don't know when certain words are inappropriate so a responsible parents and grandparents would not use them in their company.

Funkyslippers · 06/10/2024 13:10

We were at a themed dinner earlier this year and this woman turned up out of her face & using very offensive swear words. I told her to calm her language down as lots of people ere would find it offensive. She carried on through the start of the show & was soon escorted out with her hapless husband. She was spoiling it for everyone & nobody wants to hear that sort of language

ekalf · 06/10/2024 13:11

Stop ear wiggng other peoples conversations and you won't be offended.

CustardySergeant · 06/10/2024 13:12

Marblesbackagain · 06/10/2024 12:56

Rugby a tugs game played by gentlemen.

A tugs game? 😕

Rosscameasdoody · 06/10/2024 13:12

LizzieBowesLyon · 06/10/2024 12:49

You don’t get this is Waitrose.

I remember a BBC panel show host being criticised for a comment years ago. He said that he didn’t agree with those in his home village objecting to a Tesco’s opening up because it would keep the ‘riff raff’ out of Waitrose !!

Rosscameasdoody · 06/10/2024 13:13

Marblesbackagain · 06/10/2024 13:07

I am quite gifted in bad language as and when required. But have the intelligence to know where and when appropriate. It doesn't half work well with absolute scrotes who don't expect it from my appearance.

I find this. On the occasion (rare) I show people how talented I am with bad language, they’re always shocked because apparently I don’t look as though I know language like that. Whatever that means !!

Thfrog · 06/10/2024 13:13

Expectmoore · 06/10/2024 12:27

@solooddbod which shop?!

Why is this relevant?

SoberSchmober · 06/10/2024 13:14

lobsterkiller · 06/10/2024 12:37

I was at the doctors surgery last week, a couple walk in and seem to be having a 'performative' conversation, only way I can describe it as they wanted everyone to hear them. Then their daughter appeared, about 11 years old.

The dad asked her why she wanted him to change his mobile to a newer model. The daughters response was 'because yours is a load of fucking shite.' He never batted an eyelid or said anything to her.

I'm not a pearl clutcher, I don't usually mind swearing but they're setting her up to fail by normalising language like that.

Ugh I know a dad like this! He thinks it's HILARIOUS that his kids learnt swear words really young and also never believed in santa etc. I know lots of people don't agree with doing santa or anything, but this was so performative like his dcs were way too grown up from about age 5 to believe any of that. He'd also show them tv which was too grown up for them. Not porn or anything, but stuff like family guy. Not a good dad imo as he was just using the kids to make himself look cooler than everyone else (in his own head)

Thfrog · 06/10/2024 13:14

What was the context of the use of the words?

Grmumpy · 06/10/2024 13:15

When I was teaching I always felt sorry for children like these as we were meant to sanction them. If a child got angry and told a teacher to fuck off, they were in a lot of trouble yet it was everyday language to them. They didn’t realise how aggressive their language was.

mindutopia · 06/10/2024 13:15

Tbf the queue at Lidl on a Saturday makes me want to unleash a few choice words. 😂

Rosscameasdoody · 06/10/2024 13:16

Thfrog · 06/10/2024 13:13

Why is this relevant?

So we can all pile in on it and berate each other for not shopping at ‘naice’ supermarkets like Waitrose !!

Respectisnotoptional · 06/10/2024 13:16

TheOriginalEmu · 06/10/2024 12:34

They’re just words. 🤷🏼‍♀️

They aren’t ’just words’ they are words that everyone knows show disrespect from the user and for person being spoken to in the conversation.
It’s lazy slovenly language and it’s the lowest of the low to use it in front of children.
It’s a very sad reflection of modern day life, there is no respect any more for anyone or anything, good manners are slowly going down the drain, we are a nation of slovenly dress and slovenly speech.
Sit for five minutes on any major high street and you will see that is completely true.

ChampaignSupernova · 06/10/2024 13:19

Why does 1 family swearing in public in front of their grandkid make it the norm? It isn't the norm but yes there are people who do this. Chances are the grandparents parents did the same when they were kids.

Cattery · 06/10/2024 13:19

solooddbod · 06/10/2024 12:32

Correct 👍 this is no reflection on the store itself just the people who were in it . It didn't take long for someone to guess though .

Dreadful place.

Thfrog · 06/10/2024 13:19

Rosscameasdoody · 06/10/2024 13:16

So we can all pile in on it and berate each other for not shopping at ‘naice’ supermarkets like Waitrose !!

Ah right. Snobbery

stayathomer · 06/10/2024 13:20

passiveaggressivenonsense

They're only as important as you choose to make them. It's hardly child abuse.
Very few of those words are ever used fondly or in a positive way (I know some people do use them that way!!), they’re more likely someone angry or trying to make someone react. And if I called a child an effing c or something similar would you not call that a form of child abuse?

ChampaignSupernova · 06/10/2024 13:23

Respectisnotoptional · 06/10/2024 13:16

They aren’t ’just words’ they are words that everyone knows show disrespect from the user and for person being spoken to in the conversation.
It’s lazy slovenly language and it’s the lowest of the low to use it in front of children.
It’s a very sad reflection of modern day life, there is no respect any more for anyone or anything, good manners are slowly going down the drain, we are a nation of slovenly dress and slovenly speech.
Sit for five minutes on any major high street and you will see that is completely true.

Yes because it's a new thing to swear and dress in a way others think is inappropriate. Drugs are entirely new as is crime. Racism was never a thing and people were pious 🙄

Seacatt · 06/10/2024 13:31

I was in a cafe and a woman was swearing into her phone non-stop.

A man with his young family asked her to stop and was given a mouthfull of abuse.

They really don't think they are doing anything wrong.

KnottedTwine · 06/10/2024 13:32

How long before some numpty pops in to say that the c-word is used as a term of affection in Scotland.

It's not. It's used in public by the same demographic as it is in other parts of the UK - the uneducated who don't care about how they are perceived by others.