Doubts grow over Labour’s VAT plan for private schools

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Article in the Observer here:
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2024/oct/05/doubts-grow-over-labours-vat-plan-for-private-schools

I must say they've gone very quiet on it.

Not desperate at all. Merely highlighting the lack of thought or understanding on Labour's part. They have had years in opposition to research these ideas yet didn't even know that they would need to exempt state boarding schools!

That sounds a lot like gatekeeping to me.

You tried to infer something that isn’t there.

And only the tiny percentage of the 7% paying private that won’t be able to afford the increase care.

Nobody else does.

Why can’t MN make a private education section and move all these threads on VAT.

Any thread that gets to 9 pages and going up surely implies that the subject matter is interesting to posters? How can it not.

We had kids at private schools but thankfully all through now. I don’t honestly think we could have afforded 3 x the vat and I find these discussions interesting from a slightly distanced stance. I really really hope that it doesn’t go ahead for the people who are in the position we would have been in.

And I like reading these threads, the more the merrier as far as I’m concerned.

My belief in the policy does not equate to belief to how and when the policy is implemented. If this had been a genuine thread into the logistics of its Implementation then that would have been an entirely different thread. Except of course it has turned into yet another debate of the thing in the first place.

is this the standard of thinking/ critical analysis we can expect if all our kids are educated in now oversubscribed state schools ?

The belief that equality in education equates to better education for all and therefore benefits all of society? Then yes, I hope so!

The birth rate has been falling off a cliff edge since 2018 (at least) – state school oversubscription is quickly easing and will continue to.

Agree, it is always amusing what people deem other people will or will not find interesting.

This site is packed with information useless to me but I am glad people have the space to post it

Why not just hide it? It’s clear what the thread is about

"Single sex"? Er not all grammars are single sex.

"Pressurised" or just suitable?

If you live in Kent then grammar schools are a big deal. But obviously Kent is only one county, and we all know you couldn't give a stuff about the minority. So I'll "crack on" but let's hope we don't see more threads about not getting into a good state school.

Because the fact our new government is floundering with it's shiny headline grabbing policy is extremely newsworthy. If you can't see that the lack of critical thinking over this affects us all - whether we are financially affected or not - then that's your choice. Scroll by.

But true.

Not floundering at all. Dates are being discussed.

we will be seeing hundreds of threads about the anguish of getting into a good state school. I welcome reading it.

There are none so blind as those who won't see.

Because Phillipson and Labour didn't bother to look at the logistics of implementation and now teachers unions amongst others are calling for it to be paused. That is floundering

Well conserving 90% of schools are rated good and above that’s not likely and let’s face it MN is a middle class Londoncentric forum with private aspiring parents. Not really reflective of uk society as a whole so I don’t think we should lose any sleep if there were.

Yeah that is floundering for sure.

the poster complains about the thread but is nicely active. thanks Applebutter

But will you post on them?! From what I understand here you absolutely cannot scroll past something irrelevant to you.....

Choosing an alternative date out of 2 isn’t floundering. Floundering is what we saw on a daily basis by the past Tory governments .

Ah yes the thorough and robust Ofsted grading system. Not flawed in any way is it?

Lol, ignore and scroll is the best option for something you are not interested in. It’s pretty simple - not directed at you by the way

Floundering is announcing it for Sept.25, then pulling it to Jan 25 and now reconsidering Sept 25 because quite simply you hadn't bothered to understand the complexities of what you are trying to do. Floundering is having teaching union telling you to stop, it is having accountancy firms that your maths doesn't add it. It is having diplomatic rows with France and Germany over the policy etc etc etc

Quite - I actually think they rub their hands with glee the moment the words "private school" and "VAT" appear.

You describe Labour well there

Yes that’s floundery

Ah but you have the moral high ground with your virtue signalling don't you? If you are so concerned with state education then do a voluntary tax contribution to HMRC via direct debit.