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To not want to teach

187 replies

idontwanttoteach · 30/09/2024 18:59

This is probably going to be a frustrating thread because there’s literally no way around it, I sort of have to teach because it’s the only thing I’ve done and the only thing I can earn the amount I do and plus the holidays (have young children) and so on.

But. I. Do. Not. Want. To. Teach.

I know about the FB group by the way but there’s no real feasible alternative for me at the moment.

OP posts:
HelloWorldItsNiceToMeetYou · 02/10/2024 19:34

Nannyoggapple · 02/10/2024 19:20

Wow you must be making loads.

29k is a very good wage.

She's a teacher on upper pay scale 3...about 47k

Mermaidinmymind · 02/10/2024 19:45

idontwanttoteach · 01/10/2024 12:21

It would be worth thinking about it it was possible but I really can’t afford to take a pay cut at the moment.

The children I teach aren’t badly taught and they aren’t badly treated. It is not a pre requisite of any job that passion is needed. Enthusiasm can be masked.

Totally get it. I'm 3 days in FE. It's shit, but maybe less than where you are. You could look for roles in colleges?

ANightingaleSang · 02/10/2024 19:48

HelloWorldItsNiceToMeetYou · 02/10/2024 19:32

Which if those jobs have you personal experience of? I am honestly not convinced you could work in HR, project management or IT without relevant qualifications and experience.

I joined a London-based company as a Network Technician just before COVID hit with zero relevant qualifications and no degree. I was on help desk for the first 6 months while studying for my CCNA. Was promoted twice over the next year. I worked mostly from home as a Network Engineer, on decent money. Also a qualified Level 3 Personal Trainer, Pharmacy Technician and Level 5 TEFL private tutor. I am published (by Routledge) and have done some content writing (not my thing). Explored BA and Virtual Assistant as career options but ultimately didn't go down that route - would recommend the BCS pathway for BA. I made education-related suggestions as OP is a teacher (obviously) and others are fair game if you have a degree (look for graduate positions with no specific requirements beyond a 2:1 in any discipline, employers provide relevant training).

Sometimes it does well to keep an open mind.

HelloWorldItsNiceToMeetYou · 02/10/2024 19:51

ANightingaleSang · 02/10/2024 19:48

I joined a London-based company as a Network Technician just before COVID hit with zero relevant qualifications and no degree. I was on help desk for the first 6 months while studying for my CCNA. Was promoted twice over the next year. I worked mostly from home as a Network Engineer, on decent money. Also a qualified Level 3 Personal Trainer, Pharmacy Technician and Level 5 TEFL private tutor. I am published (by Routledge) and have done some content writing (not my thing). Explored BA and Virtual Assistant as career options but ultimately didn't go down that route - would recommend the BCS pathway for BA. I made education-related suggestions as OP is a teacher (obviously) and others are fair game if you have a degree (look for graduate positions with no specific requirements beyond a 2:1 in any discipline, employers provide relevant training).

Sometimes it does well to keep an open mind.

Perhaps differences in different locations. My nearest city is Manchester and I have never seen adverts for even entry level roles requiring nothing beyond a general 2:1 degree.
What is your degree in? Just curious really!

Surestat · 02/10/2024 19:54

idontwanttoteach · 30/09/2024 19:04

A good old whinge.

Ha ha. Brilliant!

My sister is a teacher and felt the same. Unfortunately these jobs that are being mentioned are not plentiful. She applied for four with the civil service and didn’t get an interview. 2 of the jobs were pulled before that stage. She had changed year group now and gone part time and it seems to have lifted the stress. Not everyone can do that though!

WonderingWanda · 02/10/2024 19:57

Being a part time teacher is rubbish. I did it for 14 years. What I can say is it gets loads easier when your kids reach school age because you get time during their school day and actually family life becomes much easier. I am now back full time though because I ended up working so much on my days off to keep up with workload.

At secondary as a pt teacher you often end up with lots of split classes, the emails don't stop on your days off, as ups you are expected to jump through hoops that ft colleagues often achieve through their tlr roles. If you do a tlr role you get pro rata or the full role but no time to do it.

The benefits are you get school holidays with your own kids and honestly looking back I now that my kids are teens I wouldn't swap this for anything else. I've had so much magical time with them that I wouldn't have had if I worked outside of teaching.

BadSkiingMum · 02/10/2024 19:59

I agree with @ANightingaleSang. It definitely isn’t impossible to change and I shared my own experience upthread.

Some further study might be necessary for some of these roles, but teachers tend to be good at that on the whole!

ANightingaleSang · 02/10/2024 20:02

HelloWorldItsNiceToMeetYou · 02/10/2024 19:51

Perhaps differences in different locations. My nearest city is Manchester and I have never seen adverts for even entry level roles requiring nothing beyond a general 2:1 degree.
What is your degree in? Just curious really!

I'm London-based now, but have lived in various UK cities. I don't have a degree but am currently studying Networking and Cybersecurity. (I'm ex-military, hence so many career changes - I was medically discharged so spent a while trying out different options). The university careers office bombards me with job adverts for graduates. Even if a job says it requires a degree, there is no harm in applying if you have relevant experience or transferable skills. You are right that there are more opportunities in London, but I would be extremely surprised if there weren't such jobs in Manchester.

Nannyoggapple · 02/10/2024 20:10

Milkandacookie · 02/10/2024 19:27

£29 isn't loads for a graduate who has been working for 20years. See so many threads on here! The role only wants a c in English gcse and relevant experience.

For reference minimum wage is about £23. A nurse starting salary at 21 years old is £29 and will go up, a social worker starting at 21, years old starts in £35k.
And yes I've dropped down from £44 (any teacher with 5+ years experience)

Out of interest @Nannyoggapple what do you think a graduate professional with considerable experience should be being paid?

Edited

Most of us are graduate professionals with considerable experience though?

A lot of people in the UK go to University. So I would say being a graduate is pretty standard.

I'm a graduate with considerable experience, and I've never earned as high as 44,000.

That's a great salary.

Goldenbear · 02/10/2024 20:31

BadSkiingMum · 02/10/2024 19:59

I agree with @ANightingaleSang. It definitely isn’t impossible to change and I shared my own experience upthread.

Some further study might be necessary for some of these roles, but teachers tend to be good at that on the whole!

It's not that people are suggesting it is impossible but the likelihood of this is going to be determined by local rates for graduates and and what you have a degree in.

Cornishmumofone · 02/10/2024 20:35

@Milkandacookie I've sent you a message ☺️

AlertCat · 02/10/2024 22:27

Cornishmumofone · 01/10/2024 14:03

I quit teaching. I earn more than UPS3 as a learning designer in HE. I work 35 hours a week (flexibly) and have 44 days leave a year. Plenty of my colleagues work p/t. I also WFH 4days a week. There are options out there.

What’s a learning designer?

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