Child identifies as a wolf ... WTF?

[Portakalkedi]

Just on Radio 4 now, discussing a child in secondary school who identifies as a wolf, and the school is going along with this. AIBU to think the world (or at least the UK) has gone mad? If said child is living in the woods, catching its own prey etc etc, howling and running with other wolves, which I doubt, then why the hell is anyone going along with it? They are also saying that some others identify as dogs or cats etc. And here was me thinking men 'identifying' as women was bad.

If you don't see the parallels of culture-war politics between the US and the UK I really don't know what to tell you.

Exactly this. And the fact is, you don't have to look far for evidence of kids identifying as animals. It's just the utterly ridiculous litter tray aspect that is blatantly bollocks.

Tell them wolves/cats/dogs don’t use electronic devices and take their phones. Will stop them being groomed online by adult pervs.

But is it a culture war to not want males, however they identify, into female spaces? If so, why? Is it a culture war to say there are people, including children who identify as animals? Even when furries are a verifiable thing? If so, why? Because it kind of seems like whenever anything less than savoury is brought to light about certain groups, then it's labelled a s culture war and therefore conveniently safe to dismiss, no matter how much truth there actually is.

Let’s just hope they don’t start getting referred for ‘Opposable Thumb Removal Surgery.’ They’ll be even less use around the house.

Peter Ustinov said he spent a year pretending to be car around 4-5 all day only car noises said it drove his poor mother quite mad and he was very stubborn child.

There have probably always been extreme outliers that did this but at younger ages and not as tolerated in school settings.

Also bit surprised there aren't photo of this apparent trend in schools though perhaps the children are so obviously disturbed other kids realise and stay away and not engage at all with them. I know my kids keep distance from few others who change pronouns and names constantly - the drama and trouble they can cause other pupils just not worth it.

I'd expect the BBC to have thoroughly fact checked this so they can prove it's not some urban myth epitomizing our growing worries about mental health and identity crisis in our young people.

How?

What at work? I can't imagine that would pass the uniform policy in my job. Can you imagine a bloke dressed up as a wolf in a nurses uniform appearing at your side as you're coming round from surgery!!!

It's very difficult to take the phrase "culture war" seriously when it's so often used to describe misogynists of one flavour fighting with misogynists of a different flavour over what rights to allow women to achieve or retain.

Also, I'd argue that allowing people to identify as things they are not, you know you're typical "queering of society stuff" is what's going to destabilize countries, not those of us women who call it out for what it really is.

I was just thinking that

Yes, it's used as a polite way of saying "shut up you stupid, silly women" all too often, isn't it?

Assuming this is not a story been invented to see if someone will put it on the radio or tv.

One of the few cases where I would support someone complaining to the local authority (if not an academy) or Ofsted without exhausting the school complaints procedure.

I work with young people.

What isn’t true? The child’s behaviour or the parents’ response? If the whole story is not true then rest assured - if my 16 year old tried to identify as a wolf it’s what I’d be doing.

I know a staff member at a UK 6th form college where a child wanted to identify as a swan- the staff basically ignored it though.

Yawn.

There was a mumsnet thread on Therians - not a right wing trope because they exist very much within the liberal left milieu- a few months ago and an real adult therian popped in to address the "bigots" ie the great majority of us posters. She was barking mad.
There are reddit threads and online as well as meatspace communities. https://therian-guide.com/index.php/6-community

There are safeguarding rules about taking photos of young people.

You might think women's safety and dignity is yawn-worthy, but most decent people certainly don't.

Thanks for proving my point!

Because, again, the point isn't that there's a few kids who are furries. The point is that these kinds of litter-boxes-in-schools stories are being actively created, amplified and embellished as part of a deliberate disinformation campaign. The point is to encourage exactly the kind of fear and outrage being seen in this thread. It's aim isn't to "other" the furries etc, it's to "other" the people and groups who are rumoured to be supporting and encouraging the furries etc.

Those groups are often banded together under the banner of "woke" and the aim is to tar anyone who is the slightest bit small-l liberal as "woke". One of the more commonly employed smears is to encourage the thought that anything "woke" is a direct or indirect danger to children. It's purpose is to encourage a good-vs-evil, us-vs-them divisiveness. That's the culture war.

My DC are older now (thank goodness I say) and this reminds of a phase DD went through wanting to dress in quite inappropriate for the occasion clothing. Things along the lines of short shorts for school non uniform days etc. (she had them for beach/swimming wear). So she was told she isn't going to school dressed like that. Of course a few words were thrown my way and a bit of a sulk ensued. She changed outfits, probably tried it again a few times, and again changed when she didn't get to leave to go to school dressed that way.

Fast forward some years and not that long ago she thanked me for stepping in and laying down the law. In with that was her discussing her horrific eyebrow choices and really cringed looking back at photos. And even said, why did you let me do that to my eyebrows. They were so bad.

Children push their luck. It's a rite of passage if you like. And then it is for the parent to step in and discourage the behaviour. Really it's just parenting, Our only job in that role, is to get our children to be functioning adults that can cope in the world.

So when a child comes out dressed as a wolf in the morning, where is the parent? All fine to wear wolf clothes to a party or wherever it's acceptable. But I am going with these children have not been subjected to that uncomfortable moment where the parent has said, hey up, no you aren't going to school like that. And it's spiralled. It's is okay to hurt your child's feelings from time to time. How will they learn otherwise? All this, 'well their feelings and thoughts count as we take our cue from them'. Yes they do, but where is it going to end?

Our job as a parent is to raise a child to be able to function into adulthood. I'm repeating this I know And by god, at times that is not easy. How are these children going to go into adulthood if they will only do whatever they want to, and not be able to pick up what is acceptable, and what isn't.

If they want to join in the fetish community as adults, that is all fine. They are choosing that path using an adult brain. Kids don't have adult brains, that is why the responsible adult is there.

And yes is agree with pp, that parents won't be aware of the fetish connection here. It is beyond scary.

Can you elaborate? I'm not sure what you mean ...

I do agree that all this divisive shit is amplified online by those who seek to benefit one way or another. But that's probably a message you want to take to the identity dudes and kids caught up in this adult - led faux progressive shit.

The negative effects of identity obsession and gender ideology on the ground for women - particularly those less privileged - and children are real however. Just because The Guardian won't print half the stuff that makes middle class white men look bad it doesn't mean it's not happening.

Such bullshit. It's just a new version of the 'kitty litter boxes in schools' thing.
No teachers 'go along with' a child 'identifying' as anything thing other than a human being.
Surely there's other more feasible ways of tackling the trans debate that don't involve obvious nonsense?