Princess Diana Question?

[PassingStranger]

Has anyone wondered if Diana and Dodi or just Dodi knew about Mohammed Al Fayed the creep?
I guess we will never know?
If they had both been alive now and still together it would have surely been a news item though?

Agree, and he was handsome and rich.

Rich yes, but Dodi "handsome"? He gave me the creeps actually. I found him smarmy.

You've not read a lot about Dodi have you OP? Diana would have paid no attention to any warnings. And if Fayed senior couldn't get a British passport, be assured his son wouldn't have 'got' a royal. Couldn't happen.

Fayeds wife's been quiet, she's still alive as are his other 3 offspring.

Just as shocking though isn’t it? No amount of money would keep my mouth shut. Threat to life would obviously affect it but money no.

You'd be surprised how much time is spent gossiping in the circles in which Diana was brought up and lived.

How many others could have offered security as in the guards, jets & yachts & chance to hang, protected, overseas? He was dumping his USA fiancé for her (?) She may have seen him only as a fling, did he & was he controlled by his father?

Could he have facilitated a life mainly/partly overseas, USA? For her?

Thinking Jackie Onassis - a love story or security second time around?

And NO secret on M A Fayed.

Diana's father and stepmother had their hands deep in the Fayed pockets for years. Of course they knew what he was like and didn't care. Fayed thought he could buy his way in. People don't seem to understand that domestic workers, shopworkers, masseuses, admin staff, any employee really, all the support workers that facilitate the lives of the pampered rich, are seen as

1. Property for the time of hiring and
2. Non-persons who exist solely to serve them in any way they specify. AND serving them is an honour.

There will be exceptions to this but that's the general idea. The Spencers viewed Fayed in this light. Fayed viewed his employees similarly. Ditto Prince Andrew who dimly wonders what's all the fuss about? That's what they're there for isn't it? Entitlement.

This sums it up:
The shameless fixers who enable monsters like Al Fayed
I have to confess I shrieked when I read that Michael Cole – long-term publicist for the late Mohamed Al Fayed – can’t come to the phone these days, says Marina Hyde in The Guardian. Because there was a time when Cole could always come to the phone, usually to emit some “hugely pompous shitblast” in defence of his master, who is now the subject of multiple rape and sexual assault allegations. Cole is reportedly “in seclusion” dealing with the shock of the mounting claims that his boss was a prolific sex offender. I’ll leave readers to decide whether he has somehow forgotten about all the allegations he “personally batted away” during Al Fayed’s lifetime, or if he was simply the “worst publicist ever” for not being across the details. But we shouldn’t overlook the fact that it’s precisely because of men like Cole that Al Fayed “got away with it all”.
The Harrods owner was surrounded by spokesmen, lawyers, security goons, even doctors who performed “purity examinations” on young female PAs. He wasn’t the only one to do this, of course: Michael Jackson, Harvey Weinstein, Jimmy Savile – these “larger than life” men all had similar set-ups to insulate them from their disgusting crimes. Just look at the music mogul Sean Combs, known as Diddy, who has just been charged with crimes including sex trafficking and racketeering. He, too, presumably has a small army of lawyers, NDA experts and crisis PRs, all “working in perfect symphony” to keep their man out of trouble. This motley crew of enablers, enforcers and concealers are effectively the “sex-case industrial complex” – a whole “corrupt society” devoted to allowing horrible men to continue committing horrible crimes. Shame on them all.

Man abuses women.

Man gets found out.

Society blames a woman briefly linked to abusive man rather than the man himself.

Sigh.

Sorry for labelling a man who had sex with a child a 'pedo', I'll do better next time and go with 'nonce' instead.

It's stupid to continue using the wrong label for it. It muddies the water a great deal and doesn't help anything at all.

I dunno, if it was my daughter, it might help me to use whatever words i want

Interesting. I don't suppose stringing a load of words into an inaccurate, unhelpful and ineffectual sentence would make me feel better were I in that position. But we can agree to disagree.

@BunnyLake
This is by Charles Moore in the Spectator

Reporting on Mohamed Fayed was one of the great frustrations of editing a newspaper in the 1990s. We all knew he behaved appallingly in numerous ways, and we believed he was sexually assaulting women. But so great were the legal and security walls around him that we failed to breach them. He could terrify existing and former employees into silence. At last, that dam is broken. But it is infuriating to hear Fayed now described as ‘close to the royal family’. So far as I know, he was not close to anyone royal. Through his son Dodi, he became (arguably) close to Diana in the last months of her life, but by then she was not royal, having lost that status on her divorce the previous year. One of Fayed’s specialities was publicly insulting the royal family, especially Prince Philip. The suggestion that it was somehow protecting him is tragicomical

Dodi and all at Harrods knew, it wasn't a secret there. Look at the number of people involved in the various aspects of cover up.

I doubt Diana would have a clue - predatory men don't boast to women about this, they boast to other men.

But what a bloody weird question to ask - would a woman dead for over 25 years know about the rapist asshole father of the current boyfriend?

Fulham Football Club knew and took steps to protect their players.

Yes, I'm thinking fling too.

Diana had a lot of men on the go.

Yep, just posted on this.

She could make up a football team (and subs) with the number of men she was with. The sham of a marraige traumatised her so I don't blame her seeking out men who actually gave her attention, although not condoning her being the OW obviously. I dont think she'd ever have settled with one man (just like Margaret and her list of lovers after her equally sham of a marraige).

Let Princess Diana rest in peace.

Nobody can say for certain and Diana had a lot of faults but she wasent a stupid women I think Dodi was a distraction ,i don't think she would have had a long term controversial relationship. ,with someone like him dhe was the the mother of a future monarch when all said and done

@x2boys she was then much more seriously than previously, looking for escape, money, security & protection. The Al Fayeds could provide this.

Slightly off topic but they seem to have been banging the drum about so much over the years that's eventually turned into a "scandal". I only listen to their podcast but might start reading it too. Wonder if it's free on Libby or something?

I doubt it. It's always been by subscription or buying a hard copy from a newsagent. The podcast is relatively recent but really only gives a taste of the publication.

It's been around for about 60 years now and is rarely wrong about the corruption and dodgy dealings it reports on.

Desperate for attention?

Why does she need to be dragged into this. She's been dead for over 25 years, let the poor woman rest.