Do Europeans hate the Brits?

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We're in Spain at the minute and have encountered some pretty hostile behaviour. Not so much from the Spanish, as we speak the language, but from other Europeans. We've been coming here many years and I've never before encountered such hostility. It got me thinking, do many Europeans dislike the Brits?

This thread is mental!
Europeans don't hate Brits or even the English. Maybe they prefer Scottish / Irish / Welsh.
Some Irish and Scots apparently DO hate the English according to the answers here.
And now Northerners and Southerners have a problem with each other? What?

The only people suggesting that the English are hated and getting worked up about this are the English themselves. All of us early posters described a slight change in attitude or increased friendliness when people find out that we’re Irish, Scottish etc - that is all.

I don't have a problem with Northerners I was questioning this rationale but I agree it is a massive digression. Essentially, I conclude form this thread that all of the world hates those from the south of England!

Or is it the SE of England as actually the Cornish are Celts?

Nope. You yourself said it. In fact on the first reply on this thread. And so have a few others. But whatever. It's ridiculous anyway.

Less fear, more respect in the places I'm talking about, like a pre conception that you will give it back if necessary and won't tolerate their bs. In those places yes it is good cos it's like an invisible boundary has been drawn and very few people are likely to push it. The only people who physically attacked me on that job were northern and one Scot. Also there were 3 airports where everyone dreaded working the delay no matter which country you were working in (1 English, one Irish, one Scottish airport) because it would be verbal and physical abuse hell and in every country, every different resort, it would be the same kind of people put on the delay. But that is because they can handle it WHEN THEY NEED TO, doesn't mean they aren't the preferred choice by many because they're nice. It's called being adaptable to your surroundings.
But as I've already said, certain demographics, like certain people better because of where they're from just because they get on with them better, find them friendly and approachable and can have similar humour, come from similar places etc.

If you're really this offended by it all, blame psychology. Being adaptable means rolling with it and doing whatever is required for the situation. If it means being firm and having your broad accent and no bullshit tone then yeah you do it to the extreme to get things done, then in the next breath if being friendly, sympathetic and personable is needed, then that's what you do. You seem to think people can't be multi dimensional.

Ha. Maybe.

I don't know what sort of places the people on this thread go to in Spain but we go nearly every year and the Spanish people are lovely. Spain is a big place and includes the Balearics and the Canary Islands. You can go to Mallorca. But Magaluf and Puerto Pollensa are entirely different. Attitudes will vary in each resort to anyone regardless of nationality. The resort you stay in matters a lot.

@jazzybelle I wasn't referring to the treatment we get from Spanish people if you read my post. I was talking about the treatment we've had from other non British tourists.

OH was on a cycling trip to Mallorca, and I went along for the holiday. The group he joined (by experienced cyclists who guided the routes through the mountains) had a mixture of Irish and British people. Very few cyclists of other nationalities in the hotel. A Scandinavian or two. Early in season, so probably the more ‘sunburn resistant’ continentals such as the Dutch and Germans arrive later.

One day he stopped for a little rest, a Scottish member of the group joined him. He regaled OH about an English woman who had moved to one of the western areas of Scotland, and she went on to complain about how many foreigners were there. Can you believe the irony and gall of that, sort of thing.

Another day we were having breakfast, and an Irish fellow was absolutely mithering one of the waiting staff for something that either wasn’t on the menu, or to get it along with what he had paid for. It wasn’t available. He was so irritating as he was doing ‘I am so charming, schtick’. She had said she couldn’t do it.

On one of the evenings, we were walking around, enjoying the balmy evening. A group of around four English lads started coming towards us. They were loud and obviously pissed. I was obviously a little wary of them. They yelled at us asking if we were having a good time. We said we were, they yelled that they were too, and then just moved on.

Story of an Irish man, a Scots man and an English man.

p.s. The cycling groups are so funny. They go to bed really early, and don’t really drink as they have to get up at cockcrow to start cycling at the cooler part of the day. The opposite of how you’d imagine a Mediterranean holiday.

The story about the Scots Man isn’t about the Scots Man though.

In my experience anyone can be racist, regardless of whether they’re English, Scottish, Irish or Welsh, or any other nationality.

Yes, you could have swapped (with appropriate changes) any of those around on given days, I’d imagine. Well the story is about the Scots man telling a story.

About an English woman.

Yes, that was his story. My (OH’s) story was about the Scots man telling him the story.

Ok, but it’s not really a story about a Scots man at all 😊

Anyway, I agree with the premise, moving to a country and then moaning about other people moving to that country is laughable.

You know what? This absolute refusal to acknowledge that damage done to Ireland is way more recent than the famine, the determination to minimise the suffering, by living people right now in Ireland by British forces, the just not giving a shit, this is why people are still not happy with the English. Too many of them are like you.

I disagree. I'm a Scot and can put on the 'pipe down' voice when I need to. Any good people manager will tell you, the best people to quieten an escalating situation are more softly spoken. A burly aggressive guy gets all the wind taken out his sails when it is a 5'2 polite reasonable sounding woman speaking. He cannot get more aggressive without looking like a knob.

I'm the poster who the person you quoted was agreeing with.
Did you actually read what I said @Somanypiessolittletime?

Because I said nothing to justify what you accused me of. I did say some people seemed to be in denial - simply because they are refusing to accept what countless pp have now told them re subtle changes in attitude toward different nationalites.
I did NOT say that there was hatred towards English people. In fact I literally said the opposite! Please read my post again because your reply doesn't match it at all.

You know the average English person has about as much say over what the British forces do as the average Irish one does right? The military carried out some terrible actions and then that was covered up. I wish that wasn't the case. I'm sure most English just like most people everywhere wish that hadn't happened. But we're not responsible.
So hate all "the English" if you want to. But don't pretend we're to blame.

Nobody at all has accused you or your friends of being anti-Irish @Goldenbear, calm down.

Actually I responded to this comment, arguing that this poster didn't speak for all of Europe and it was THAT the you said "some posters are in denial" about
"Badhairdayagain · Today 11:34

I’m Scottish and concur with this. I’m afraid it’s the English that Europeans don’t like."

So no, maybe not "hate" although other posters did say that - in fact it was what the OP was about. You said we were in denial about "English that Europeans don't like"

I do not hate all English people at all. I don't hate anyone. I lived happily in England for almost 10 years, and despite meeting a few arseholes, had a lovely time. Where are you not going to meet some arseholes?

I was being deliberately offensive to pearljam, because I assumed that that is what she was doing.

I know that the average person has no say over the military obviously, however when you read so many comments regarding things like the bloody Sunday enquiry and the fury even in the press about the temerity of Irish people to expect that murderers in the forces be brought to justice, it is apparent that a significant portion of English people feel that the Irish should just shut up about the very recent injustices. That is galling to Irish people, weirdly enough.

No, it is not all English people and hating any people because of some of their compatriots is stupidity. But there is a loud and vocal element displaying horrible attitudes to others. The football thing reflects it. Some people sadly only see or hear the negative and do not encounter the loads of perfectly lovely people. So the English have a terrible reputation due to that minority.

@Somanypiessolittletime
I said you were in denial because you refuse to believe what many pp have told you re subtle attitude shifts.

I clarified I didn't think this was hatred.

I don't think I deserved to be accused of hatred myself for saying that.

And if so many people really do feel bad about the abuses, which while obviously not ordered by ordinary people, were carried out in your name, it would be a good idea for there to be campaigns in support of justice, or not in my name marches etc.

Ooh not sure , I’ve not been to Spain for years !!
I’ve been to Italy and at the airport in Florence the immigration control was miserable on arrival but very friendly on departure
Most places staff were polite and in some they were very friendly.
They did hear us talk in English to each other but then I made a decent attempt at Italian.
We were asked on occasion where we were from and when we said “ Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 “ they smiled and chatted more .