Do Europeans hate the Brits?

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We're in Spain at the minute and have encountered some pretty hostile behaviour. Not so much from the Spanish, as we speak the language, but from other Europeans. We've been coming here many years and I've never before encountered such hostility. It got me thinking, do many Europeans dislike the Brits?

Is that your best shot?!

In 2021, 31.86% of All Usual Residents in Northern Ireland declared their national identity as British Only; 29.13% selected Irish Only; 19.78% stated Northern Irish Only; 7.95% selected British and Northern Irish; 1.76% selected Irish and Northern Irish; and 1.47% selected British, Irish and Northern Irish.

That gives a total of 41.28% with any form of British identity so it's pretty unlikely that 97% identify as White British.

Source: https://www.equalityni.org/ECNI/media/ECNI/Publications/Corporate/Commission%20Meetings/2023/cmeeting250123/EC-23-01-11-Census21databriefingnoteAC.pdf

Cherryvalley is not responsible for that!!

(btw cracker username Cherry lol!)

Not sure yours do either. The English are not entirely to blame for Ireland. See my comment about Plantation of Ulster. SNP have done a good number about pretending Scotland took no part in that.

It's nothing new, it's always been the same. I'm not sure how NI and Scotland can identify each other's banknotes and England can't, but hey!

Google is your friend, if in doubt.

’97% of NI identify as white British’.

🤣🤣🤣 A spectacular display of ignorance, even in MN terms. It’s actually much closer to 50/50 these days and there are talks of a border poll because of this. I suggest that go and educate yourself before embarrassing yourself with any more ludicrous statements. Thanks for the good laugh though!!

The Plantation took place in the 17th century so I'm not that convinced it has any relevance now. I have no time for the SNP either, so I don't know what you are getting at.

I think Spain can be quite racist although it has improved in recent years and is significantly better than for example parts of Eastern Europe.

Oh yes, apologies, I could have said White and actually it is 98% that identify as white and most born in Northern Ireland. In London 63% identify as an ethnic minority, I am originally a West Londoner and went to a West London comprehensive that was very diverse and so many of my classmates had family from all over the world, the notion of the English that some on here are projecting is just not entirely accurate. Amongst friends three of us were the only ones with English parents but grandparents from different countries in most cases.

Get over it yourself!

None of us has sought this out and we find it a little bewildering - we are merely recording a phenomenon, which many of us have experienced over the years. Like it or not, believe it or not, I don't care, but it's a fact.

A lot of MN users are generally a bit clueless about NI, but that is genuinely the most batshit misconception that I have ever read here! 🤣 If it really was 97% the DUP would be very, very happy..

It supplanted the native Irish and gave the land to the incoming Protestants. Surprised you don't see that as significant in NI history. Scotland/James VI carry a significant blame for that. Just convenient to blame it entirely on the English. Rather lazy really.

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It wouldn't bother me either, just as it didn't bother me over 30 years ago when working in London and my English line manager repeatedly referred to "the dirty Irish" quite openly!

I am well aware of my country's history and I don't need you to educate me. My family were probably planters, but we are where we are.

However, I see no value in harking back to the 17th century any more than I see the point in harking back to 1690. I haven't blamed anyone. I just don't give a fuck.

Just to lighten the mood - I’m French and I can tell you that for the common frenchman/woman:

• England = UK = GB.
• Scotish and Irish have a good reputation, warm people etc
• Wales we are unclear what it is, pretty good reputation though, for people who have heard of it that is
• We don’t care about colonialism, we did the same
• On Brexit we are conflicted, we feel like a woman left by her husband but also we love to complain about Europe 🤷🏻‍♀️

Disclaimer: based on anecdotical evidence, not a reflexion of my personal views, I’m not saying everybody thinks that.

HTAF has anyone said they think it's great?

OMG you're easily triggered!

I'm in Corfu and feel nothing but love. I am extremely friendly though. But Greeks here seem nice to everyone.

I speak English ( born there) but am genetically Scottish Irish and Welsh. Even so I think Greek people are much friendlier than Spanish. I've holidayed all over the world and prefer Greece. Dh and I are slowly learning the language too.

I find this really hard to believe - I’ve been to italy, Spain and Greece this year and encountered no hostility whatsoever. Could it be confirmation bias at work?

What are you actually on about? That makes no sense whatsoever.

'Triggered' 🤮 I think I must be older than you as I am most certainly not triggered, I'm not even really that English why would I be triggered?

I doubt it.

You're certainly giving a good impression of being "triggered"!

Oh right, I see what you mean.
Must be different in other parts of the country though.

This thread has gone bonkers.

Just read a bbc article that said studies have shown that countries and their people do have 'personalities' associated with them ( we're talking broad brushstrokes obviously). Found by interviewing thousands of people.

However the 'personalities' don't generally match the stereotypes people have about any given country and its people.

So we're all wrong about everyone mostly 😄

I do think people make judgements based on the stereotypes though. It's human nature for better or worse...probably mostly worse.

That is unusual but refreshing.

I'm not clueless I studied History at A level with and was taught by an Irish teacher, I forgot to omit the British bit that was intended for my English statistic but as I'm originally from London found the London statistics more relevant. The Northern Ireland population is pretty much all white and that isn't the case in England so there shouldn't be the 'English' are this the 'English' are that as it is a narrow view of what an English person is which perhaps you don't appreciate in NI if 88% of the 98% of white population were born in NI.

We are mongrels. 😄