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AIBU?

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To be so distraught over child coldsore

83 replies

Mamamover · 24/09/2024 09:08

Good morning guys,

I wondered if you guys think i’m being over the top? DH think I am.

I have had cold sores fon my face and down below for 20 years. Get an outbreak once every 12-18 months. I have serious health anxiety when it comes to my children to the point I have never kissed our 12 month old, not even on the head. My hands bleed where I clean them so much and i’m constantly anti bac wiping, for fear of passing it on.

He has been grumpy the last few days and a bit snotty. I noticed he had a red patch under his nose which started bleeding today.
I believe it’s a cold sore.

Im beside myself and have been sick from the guilt and anxiety of it. I’m the only one in our house hold who knowingly has the virus and i’m just absolutely distraught that i’ve passed this on to him. I can’t stop crying and just want to go to bed and sleep.

DH thinks i’m being dramatic but I don’t think I am. I’ve given my poor baby a lifelong virus.

AIBU?

OP posts:
Grapewrath · 24/09/2024 19:16

bubblesun · 24/09/2024 19:04

Tbh I understand.
My grandma passed it to me as a baby. I suffer horrendously.

Yes not kissing my babies is worth the prevention of them going through what I have and still do.

I remember having cold sores covering my nose and mouth and philtrum and being bullied. Even now every time I catch a cold. A nasty embarassing cold sore happens at the end of the virus. Anytime I'm stressed, any big event in my life has been ruined by cold sores appearing.

I have one right now.

All my 4 births, have been ruined because the first 4 weeks of my babies lives I've had cold sores all over my lips and nose.

I moved to a new area, and started my new school run with a nose 10x larger because of cold sores inside and outside of the nose.

Cold sores have ruined everything.

So I don't think you're being crazy, but I have kissed my babies on the head.

I wish my grandma didn't show me "love" throwing herpes all over me.

Have you tried anti viral therapy? This sounds awful for you.
Supplementing lysine can help too anecdotally

Floralsofa · 24/09/2024 19:26

Grapewrath · 24/09/2024 19:12

This is not strictly true as both strain can affect either part of the body. Genital sores are generally caused by sexual contact so it is very unlikely your baby will get them.
it’s unusual to spread one type
to another part of your body so you may be dealing with two different forms of the virus as suggested here

Edited

This is what I'm trying to say. Yes each strain can affect either area, but it's extremely unlikely that if someone is infected with one strain that it will affect both areas.

Skybluepinky · 24/09/2024 19:29

Go to GP for help for yr anxiety.

Grapewrath · 24/09/2024 19:30

There’s also evidence to suggest that if you have oral herpes, you can also get genital herpes but are much less likely to get sores and symptoms

Blueberrymuffin8 · 24/09/2024 19:40

hildabaker · 24/09/2024 09:50

My mum used to get cold sores which she must have inadvertently passed on to me and I in turn must have inadvertently passed onto my son. Yes I feel bad about it but as others have said it can't be helped.

By the by, I use a cold sore 'zapper' that I got from amazon, and the first tingle I apply the zapper and the cold sore fails to develop. I can't remember now the last time I had a cold sore that managed to flourish, so to speak. I do recommend it, if you don't already have one.

I need the name of the zapper

I too have somehow passed on the virus to my 7 year old and feel awful about it (my mum must have passed it on to me as I've had them since a young age) . I have never kissed him during an outbreak and thought I was sooo careful but I can't beat myself up about it as it's just one of those things I couldn't have helped!! I felt awful when I saw it on his lower lip but ultimately there is no point in driving yourself into the ground of something that's inevitable. We need to love ourselves more and accept life's journey. Hugs x

Oleo24 · 24/09/2024 19:40

I do feel for you, OP. My husband has cold sores and finds it stressful. It doesn’t stop him kissing his family, though. He just doesn’t do it if he feels one coming on or has an active cold sore. We’re careful not to share towels etc. We’ve been together many years and I have never had a cold sore. He thinks he caught them from his mum but she wasn’t very careful.
It’s great that you’re trying to protect your children but I really hope you manage to feel well enough to kiss them one day soon.

Lesmiserables2024 · 24/09/2024 19:42

OP, "Studies suggest that 62% of Americans are infected with HSV-1 by adolescence, and up to 85% by their 60s." And they think that's probably still underestimating the figures. Exposure was inevitable at some point, and not from you! Once they start mingling at nursery, school, nightclubs most folk come across it. I have OCD and can totally relate to how you feel and if you can get treatment for it - you can overcome it! You sound lovely OP - give yourself a big hug as well as your wee one 😊

Beautifulhaiku · 24/09/2024 19:46

I know you’ve tried some therapy for your health anxiety, but have you tried medication and therapy together? I found SSRIs (double ‘normal
dose’ to work for OCD) and therapy together really helpful, but struggled with therapy alone. Can take a while to find the right meds and for them to start working but worth it IMO.

Stravaig · 24/09/2024 19:50

Oh OP, please get some help for your health anxieties!

Look at it coldly and logically. If you are terrified of passing disease to your children, then the responsible choice is not to have any, rather than have them but never kiss them and antibac your skin raw before touching them.

You chose to have DC, so now you must urgently deal with your anxiety, instead of allowing it to warp the way you care for your children and adversely shape their development.

CharlotteLucas3 · 24/09/2024 20:32

I have the same thought patterns OP and I have GAD, OCD and late diagnosed autism. I have a huge problem with guilt, especially when it comes to my children and dogs. I feel guilty for things that are nothing to do with me, such as the weather! I remember in the past thinking that I was a lost cause; that other people had anxiety and then had a bit of CBT and got over it.

It doesn't really matter how you caught the coldsore virus. Crikey, most of us did some silly things when we were young. I have coldsores and yes, they're a nuisance but there are much better treatments now than when I was young. I assume my mum passed the virus to me but I don't know for sure...it could have been any family member. I really don't see how you could pass on the virus if you're not currently having an outbreak.

CharlotteLucas3 · 24/09/2024 20:33

Oh just to add, I am actually a lost cause!!😫

FS90 · 24/09/2024 20:35

I can almost guarantee you’ve done your baby more damage not showing them affection in the form of kissing them for a year than you have by giving them a coldsore! You really need to seek treatment for your mental health, if not for you then for your poor child

Mill3nnial · 24/09/2024 20:36

I don't think you're being dramatic but I have health anxiety too. I've never had a cold sore and imagine I'd have been like you if I did not because you should feel bad, you shouldn't, but I relate to how you feel.

sanityisamyth · 24/09/2024 20:36

Notreat · 24/09/2024 09:27

I think you need treatment for your health anxiety. Never kissing your child is likely to have a greater negative impact than passing on a cold sore.
Also children so need to be exposed to some bacteria so they can build up immunity

This.

Edingril · 24/09/2024 20:38

Yes you are being dramatic

Alwaystierd · 24/09/2024 20:40

Same thing happened with my 1 year old… turns out it was hand foot and mouth, could be that?

Faffertea · 24/09/2024 20:44

The virus that causes cold sores is so common in the population that even the most saintly person can pick it up so it’s nothing to do with what you did or didn’t do as a teenager.
Tour husband could have it and have no symptoms. As could anyone else who has close contact with your baby.
You do need to get help for your health anxiety OP. This is not normal levels of worry if you wash your hands so much they bleed and you don’t kiss your child at all. There are lots of very effective treatment for anxiety. OCDaction is a good charity with info and a helpline you might want to think about calling or looking at but really, please see your GP.
(GP and OCD sufferer).

hildabaker · 24/09/2024 20:57

@Blueberrymuffin8 the device is called herpo therm from Amazon. It's unsuitable for children.

MsCactus · 24/09/2024 21:03

OP - by the age of 40 over 80% of people have coldsores, and by the time you're age 70 I think it's like 95%

So basically everyone will likely catch it. Don't worry about it!

Genital herpes is obviously a bit different - I believe that's only 10% of the population - but you get that from sexual contact, so very unlikely your baby will get that just because he has a coldsore

Thehop · 24/09/2024 21:41

My mum gave me cold sores.

just like she gave me brown eyes.

she couldn't help either.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 24/09/2024 21:48

I'd take him to get it tested now (a gum clinic can do if your gp can't) and then you'll know- if he had thre cold sore virus you can celebrate that you can now give him lots of kisses!

Mamamover · 24/09/2024 22:01

Beautifulhaiku · 24/09/2024 19:46

I know you’ve tried some therapy for your health anxiety, but have you tried medication and therapy together? I found SSRIs (double ‘normal
dose’ to work for OCD) and therapy together really helpful, but struggled with therapy alone. Can take a while to find the right meds and for them to start working but worth it IMO.

I have, I’ve tried several types of meds over the years and they either make me like a zombie or make me worse sadly!

OP posts:
Odearr · 24/09/2024 22:15

Op you mentioned OCD this book is really good, explains a lot of the concepts of ERP which is the treatment for OCD.
this thread is likely OCD wanting you to seek reassurance which OCD feeds off.

www.ocduk.org/shop/break-free-from-ocd/

Beautifulhaiku · 24/09/2024 22:27

It’s tough when you’ve tried a few different things and are still struggling. As a data point, I’d say SSRIs make me feel worse for 2-3 months initially and then I start to improve at 4-6 months, but I know they don’t suit everyone. There will definitely still be something out there that can help you though so please don’t give up! Lots of great resources shared above - definitely recommend ERP with a good therapist (your classic CBT thought diaries etc can actually be counter-intuitive for people with OCD). This can also take a few goes/different therapists to actually click. Good luck.

HowYouSpellingThat10 · 24/09/2024 22:34

Other than for newborns, I never realised cold sores were a 'thing' until Mumsnet.

I must carry the virus as I've had them but not for about 20 years. My mum and sister get them.

Never really considered whether my kids have the virus.

I put them in the same category as a spot. Annoying but time limited.

When did it become such a big deal? I always assumed the vast majority of people had the potential to get them.

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