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To be annoyed the charity shop called me rude

283 replies

ohmydays37 · 22/09/2024 23:07

I donated two huge bags of clothes to local charity shop. Before I could even ask a question the woman who worked there demand my postcode for gift aid. I said my husband deals with that and I explained I wasn't comfortable giving his details without his permission. She then said, I was extremely rude and it was for gift aid and she was running a business. In no way was I being rude (which I told her).

I guess my AIBU to think you can't just ambush people for gift aid without knowing if 1) they pay tax and 2) you need to explain the details of it. Which she didn't.

OP posts:
GuPuddingRamekinHoarder · 23/09/2024 08:57

Cantsleeper · 23/09/2024 08:44

Again, fascinating! What about my comment made you think my panties are ‘in a bundle’ ?

It’s just a mild debate on a chat forum, no one is ‘hand wringing’.

godmum56 · 23/09/2024 08:57

yanbu. If chazzas want donations they need to be polite

99point6 · 23/09/2024 08:58

How much does personalised "junk mail" cost the charity to send? I have received letters telling me my gift aid total was less than 2 quid. Negating nearly half their gain.

GuPuddingRamekinHoarder · 23/09/2024 09:00

godmum56 · 23/09/2024 08:57

yanbu. If chazzas want donations they need to be polite

The chazza is a volunteer, she’s not beholden to anyone.

dolskarella · 23/09/2024 09:01

EwwSprouts · 23/09/2024 08:55

YANBU. When receiving a donation charity staff should be grateful. Gift Aid is a bonus and if someone declines to give their personal information you are only going to put them off donating again if you start to push hard.

I'm always grateful for sellable donations, and yes gift aid is a bonus. But the amount of people who use charity shops for basically fly tipping is ridiculous. Dirty underwear, broken toys, smashed crockery, and it costs the charity to get rid of it.

Packetofcrispsplease · 23/09/2024 09:03

Hmm 🤔 I don’t pay tax as I don’t earn enough ( I’m an unpaid carer ) my husband has signed up for gift aid in a couple of charity shops so we have a little card with a reference number and some stickers to pop on donation bags .
However, if I drop at a different shop I just tell them I’m not a taxpayer and leave it at that .
The person in the shop you went into was either 1) rude or 2) SEN / learning disabled .
A previous poster commented that and that’s often the case .
i care for someone with SEN and I can see they might come across like that on occasion without meaning to

KnottedTwine · 23/09/2024 09:04

99point6 · 23/09/2024 08:58

How much does personalised "junk mail" cost the charity to send? I have received letters telling me my gift aid total was less than 2 quid. Negating nearly half their gain.

It's a legal requirement to do that, the charity has no option. Legally, if you sign up for gift aid they have to get in touch with you to tell you how much your donatons have raised. And if you haven't given them your email address, their only option is to write to you. I would contact the head office of the charity and ask to be switched onto email notifications and taken off their mailing list, any large charity will be happy to do this for you.

HotCrossBunplease · 23/09/2024 09:05

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines. Previously banned poster.

What are you talking about? It was me who first posted above about Retail Gift Aid.

godmum56 · 23/09/2024 09:05

GuPuddingRamekinHoarder · 23/09/2024 09:00

The chazza is a volunteer, she’s not beholden to anyone.

they won't keep their volunterring job for long at that rate.....but as she said she is "running a business" I susopect that she is the shop manager and I understand they are often not volunteers but in paid employment.

maddening · 23/09/2024 09:06

TinkerTiger · 22/09/2024 23:12

I honestly don’t see what you couldn’t just give your postcode? And what is it that your husband ‘deal’s with’? Post codes? Much ado about nothing.

You can't gift aid on just a postcode - it requires personal details so it can be linked to your tax - it isn't the ops personal info, it is her husband's.

Florencearbuthnot2 · 23/09/2024 09:06

I work in a charity shop and we are under enormous pressure to sign up /take donations that are gift aided. The volunteers I manage do range from shy students to adhd and autism. But all ask politely ‘Do you gift aid ?’
Im sorry you seem to have experienced a tactless volunteer.All charities from the National trust to your local charity shops all can claim 25 % tax back so the pressure is immense for each donated bag or item.

Needmorelego · 23/09/2024 09:07

This thread shows how little is understood about Gift Aid.
I don't really quite understand it myself. I'm a non tax payer so I have never signed up.
But then I think a lot of people don't understand what charity shops actually want to sell - no they don't want your stained bedding and broken Christmas tree.

CountryShepherd · 23/09/2024 09:09

linelgreen · 23/09/2024 08:19

Our nearest charity shop insists on unpacking donations and examining the contents of the bag whilst you wait to see if they want to accept the donation!! When I asked them why they explained that they only wanted items that they could resell and would give back anything they felt was not saleable. I honestly don't want to stand around whilst they do this so now just fill the charity bags that are collected.

Can you imagine the amount of donations they get that are totally unsaleable?

Some people don't donate out of kindness, they want to use the charity as a free tip facility. And be thanked in the process. Obviously no one from MN would ever do this - hence the distaste of having your donations picked over.

It costs the charity valuable resources to get rid of all this rubbish and can be dangerous and unsanitary for volunteers.

KnottedTwine · 23/09/2024 09:13

We wouldn't pick over donations in front of customers but yes, many people donate stuff which is just not fit for sale and you do wonder what the hell they were thinking. Chipped mugs, worn out or ripped clothing, single shoes/socks, crusty pans, dolls with their heads missing, dried-up felt tip pens, tattered books, etc etc.

If something is in too poor condition to hand on to a neighbour or your best friend, how are we supposed to sell it?

ZenNudist · 23/09/2024 09:14

You sign up for gift aid. It's the taxpayer that signs up, not their spouse!!!

Still you could just say you can't because you don't pay tax, that is the correct response, not implying there would be a way for her to get gift aid out of you if she had your husbands details.

I'd probably have just given name and address.

ZenNudist · 23/09/2024 09:16

KnottedTwine · 23/09/2024 09:13

We wouldn't pick over donations in front of customers but yes, many people donate stuff which is just not fit for sale and you do wonder what the hell they were thinking. Chipped mugs, worn out or ripped clothing, single shoes/socks, crusty pans, dolls with their heads missing, dried-up felt tip pens, tattered books, etc etc.

If something is in too poor condition to hand on to a neighbour or your best friend, how are we supposed to sell it?

I have been told by my local charity shop that they get money per tonne on old unusable clothes so send in the worn stuff.

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 23/09/2024 09:16

HotCrossBunplease · 22/09/2024 23:25

What did she mean she was “running a business”? It’s a charity.

It still needs to be cost effective.
Gift Aid can be a significant boost to that.

HotCrossBunplease · 23/09/2024 09:18

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 23/09/2024 09:16

It still needs to be cost effective.
Gift Aid can be a significant boost to that.

So she’s running a cost-effective charity, still not a business.

KnottedTwine · 23/09/2024 09:19

I have been told by my local charity shop that they get money per tonne on old unusable clothes so send in the worn stuff.

This is true - but it is literally pennies per black bag. We have such limited storage space and the rag man only comes once a week that we can't cope with donations which are purely rags. Other charity shops with bigger storage areas may make different decisions. Personally, knowing the issues we have with storage, I would much rather people put the odd socks and ripped jackets in one of the roadside collection bags or supermarket recycling bins and just gave us the stuff which we can sell.

GiantHornets · 23/09/2024 09:23

Thebellofstclements · 23/09/2024 03:59

Gift aid means a charity receives your tax money rather than the government. Every time people complain about lack of resources in eg. Education, SEN support, it's because less money is sloshing around for the government to use. Some of it is going to pay extraordinarily high salaries of "charity" CEOs etc instead. That is why lots of people do not gift aid.

I do gift aid precisely because my tax money is diverted from the government.
My donations go to the local children’s hospice, which should be government funded. By signing up to gift aid, I am forcing the government to spend my tax where I want it to go.
I also set up gift aided direct debit donations to overseas charities when the government cut foreign aid.

Cantsleeper · 23/09/2024 09:24

SonjaBarkerFinch · 23/09/2024 08:56

I’d say that response proves they are still very much bundled.

Again, I’m fascinated why you are so invested in a stranger. Care to answer this time?

Ah, you’ve had a wee misunderstanding, that maybe explains your strange overreaction! I’m not invested in a stranger at all, just replying to a comment on a public forum. Really no need for any more histrionics, I’m sure we’re both adults and have better things to do than argue like silly teenagers!

Needmorelego · 23/09/2024 09:32

@ZenNudist charity shops indeed will take clothing that's only suitable for rags - but it makes their life so much easier if the person donating has pre sorted it and put in a bag labelled "rags".
So many people don't though - which is why they will sometimes check.

SonjaBarkerFinch · 23/09/2024 09:34

Cantsleeper · 23/09/2024 09:24

Ah, you’ve had a wee misunderstanding, that maybe explains your strange overreaction! I’m not invested in a stranger at all, just replying to a comment on a public forum. Really no need for any more histrionics, I’m sure we’re both adults and have better things to do than argue like silly teenagers!

I wish I could believe that but something tells me you don’t.

limmie · 23/09/2024 09:39

RampantIvy · 23/09/2024 07:18

Our local hospice closed all their retail shops during lockdown and opened up a shop on the side of a warehouse on a trading estate.

It means that customers and people who donate can park right outside. The staff are lovely and helpful and are always delighted to receive donations.

The charity I volunteer with has raised thousands of pounds for the hospice, and when they came to give a talk at one of our meetings I was amazed at just how much money they raise from selling goods at their retail hub. They accept clothes, household items, furniture and electrical goods, which they have PAT tested before they go on sale.

Donating to them is stress free and easy.

I wish we had somewhere like this where I live, each charity shop seems to have it's own set of rules, the latest one, only 2 carrier bags at a time, one no books. I have tried a few and all 3 made me feel like a nuisance that I was dropping stuff off that they were then going to have to sort out - not sure what the answer is! I shall look further afield actually, out of my town.

KnottedTwine · 23/09/2024 09:43

only 2 carrier bags at a time, one no books.

Because we're dealing with so much crap which isn't fit for sale, and clutters up the back room until the waste guy comes to collect.

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