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Lost Opportunity for Happiness

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WaitingForAlexander · 22/09/2024 13:49

I think I am probably being unreasonable, but only by being unreasonable can I achieve the thing I believe will make me happy.

My greatest wish has always been to be happily married.

That's not a fashionable aspiration, I know, but however much I have lied to myself that being single is being 'free', 'independent', not having to put up with another person's annoying habits, I am not convinced.

Apart from a brief, unhappy marriage in my twenties, I have never been in a proper relationship.

I have friends, hobbies a secure (if modestly paid) job and my own (very small) home. I know I am better off than many people, but I feel desperately unhappy and unfulfilled. I just want a life-partner to share life's joys, plans and problems.

In the last year, I attended a school reunion. There I met Graham, who had been in the year above me at school. We immediately hit it off and spent most of the evening catching up together. Like me, he moved away from our home town many years ago. He had never married, but lived with his long-term partner. He spoke of Angela a lot and told me she has some kind of long-term health problems.

He is everything I have ever wanted in a man. We had so much in common and so much to talk about. I fell in love with him that evening.

He was staying with his parents for the week while Angela stayed with her parents about 20 miles away. She planned to join him later before they travelled home together.

I had only booked to stay in my hotel for the weekend, so I extended my booking so I could spend as much time as possible with Graham. He made it clear he only wanted us to be friends, but I still hoped for more.

He and Angela had been together for 15 years and I thought (or hoped) that he remained with her out of habit or pity. The fact that they were spending a week apart visiting their respective families suggested to me that the relationship was not strong and I was certain he liked me a lot, even if he was too decent to cheat on Angela.

He told me that they had a holiday cottage in the Lake District. He often goes there alone, because he enjoys hillwalking and Angela's health problems prevent her climbing hills.

We met every day after that. Always in public and always as friends. Our friendship became strong and quite intense.

We had planned just to meet for a drink on our last evening, because he was busy during the day, but I bumped into him and Angela in town during the morning. He introduced me to her and she seemed pleasant enough.

Later that afternoon, Graham sent me a text message saying he wouldn't be able to meet me that evening after all, because he and Angela had decided to go home early.

I was desperately disappointed.

A few weeks went by and I didn't hear from him, so sent him a text message thanking him for an enjoyable week and asking after him and Angela. He quickly replied and we started regularly exchanging friendly messages.

Our messages to each other mean so much to me and even this small part of him is better than nothing, but I want him so much it hurts. I dream that we are together and wake up hurting and disappointed that he is with Angela.

Yesterday morning, I called him and suggested we meet next month to celebrate my birthday. He was busy and couldn't talk for long, but suggested I send him a message with dates and details so he could put it in his diary.

Encouraged by his positive response, I sent a text message suggesting we meet in the Lake District. I said I would book into a hotel, but hoped he would invite me to stay in his holiday cottage with him.

I didn't hear anything until this morning when he sent me a message saying he enjoyed our friendship, but felt it would not be appropriate to meet as I had suggested. He said he was sorry if he had given the wrong impression, but he loves Angela and they are planning to marry next year (he has never told me that before).

The real killer though, and the thing I can't get out of my head, because it seems so unfair is that he ended the message saying, that he likes me a lot and maybe if we had met before he knew Angela that things might have been different.

How do I get over this?

My closest friend says I was unreasonable to get involved with a man in a committed relationship, but for the reasons I have said, I didn't regard it as committed.

She has also said I should go no contact with him, but for me just being friends with him is better than nothing. I couldn't bear to think of life without him in it.

OP posts:
nn07 · 22/09/2024 18:27

This is hilarious. You're one of the reasons why women are weary of other women. You were sniffing around someone else's man Hmm how would you like it if someone did that to you?

FWIW I once had a man make up a whole fantasy/inappropriate relationship with me in his head. I met him through a hobby and I was merely polite and friendly to him. Went out as a group sometimes through the hobby, I had a partner at the time.

I was absolutely shocked when he sent me a huge voicenote confessing his love, crying about watching me have a baby with another man... you get the gist. He didn't even know me enough to love me, it was all so bizarre.

I racked my brain for signs, had I give him the wrong impression somehow??? (Knew I hadn't though!) But then I realised all the signs were there that I didn't see, him suggesting coffee meets just us two, inviting me to a family barbecue (I always declined these things btw just thought he was lonely and looking for friends as he didn't seem to have any outside of hobby).

He'd built this whole, crazy, fantasy in his head.

I think your guy has clicked on and the stage I didn't, the earlier stage where you were trying to engineer alone time... he's a good guy.

And you need to work on whatever issues you have, like my former hobby friend.

WaitingForAlexander · 22/09/2024 18:28

Thank you for your replies.

I changed a lot of details in my original post to protect Graham's and Angela's (not their real names, of course) and my identities.

Despite a few misunderstandings due to some changed details not translating well, I think my situation is mostly understood.

I agree with what most people have said. A non-romantic friendship with Graham is impossible and was never really appropriate given how I felt. I know I shouldn't have made assumptions about his relationship.

I have looked up "limerence" on Google and found a few interesting articles. It is possible that it's a factor in my experience, so I will have a closer look.

Thank you. ❤️

OP posts:
notatinydancer · 22/09/2024 18:42

CraftyOP · 22/09/2024 14:44

Ah, the excuse that it's a loveless relationship or one of convenience, oldest line in the book. No man ever admits to his other woman that his other relationship is actually great and he'll go home and to bed with her. In reality he wanted his cake and to eat it for a short time. He loves his wife but he's a shit. Think yourself lucky. You deserve someone that can put you first and is honest and someone with integrity.

Graham never said any of that.
He never said he was unhappy.
Never tried to sleep with OP and gently rebuffed her when she tried to take it further.

I think he's done nothing wrong.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 22/09/2024 18:51

notatinydancer · 22/09/2024 18:42

Graham never said any of that.
He never said he was unhappy.
Never tried to sleep with OP and gently rebuffed her when she tried to take it further.

I think he's done nothing wrong.

I do think Graham overshared details and was too close to comfort (maybe the beginnings of an EA) to OP.

But, he woke up sharply and gave himself a kick in the balls and wrote to OP so she didn’t get carried away and want more from their friendship. He hasn’t really behaved well though, I’m sure he knew exactly what OP wanted and was flattered by the attention until it became obvious that shit was going to become real with more attention wanted from him to her.

OP, I know a couple a bit like this. The woman can only work for herself as she has an incurable illness which affects work and her daily life. They either can’t have children or has worked out her life would be easier without them. But they’re devoted to each other and would never cheat on the other, the man was an early days of our lives friendship.

WaitingForAlexander · 22/09/2024 18:57

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 22/09/2024 18:51

I do think Graham overshared details and was too close to comfort (maybe the beginnings of an EA) to OP.

But, he woke up sharply and gave himself a kick in the balls and wrote to OP so she didn’t get carried away and want more from their friendship. He hasn’t really behaved well though, I’m sure he knew exactly what OP wanted and was flattered by the attention until it became obvious that shit was going to become real with more attention wanted from him to her.

OP, I know a couple a bit like this. The woman can only work for herself as she has an incurable illness which affects work and her daily life. They either can’t have children or has worked out her life would be easier without them. But they’re devoted to each other and would never cheat on the other, the man was an early days of our lives friendship.

Edited

Thank you.

This sums up what I think happened. I don't think he ever intended to have an affair or leave Angela, but was happy to enjoy our friendship and felt flattered until I overstepped the boundary.

OP posts:
Cheeseandcrackers40 · 22/09/2024 18:59

You need therapy to figure out why you are attracted to unobtainable partners. Also if you think you can fall in love in one evening youve never been in love. What you are describing is unhealthy infatuation.

GivingitToGod · 22/09/2024 19:04

OP, you are unreasonable, obsessed and irrational. I have nothing else to say other than go NC with him for everyone's sake, mostly yours.
Get out and enjoy life

TheShellBeach · 22/09/2024 19:07

WaitingForAlexander · 22/09/2024 18:57

Thank you.

This sums up what I think happened. I don't think he ever intended to have an affair or leave Angela, but was happy to enjoy our friendship and felt flattered until I overstepped the boundary.

Edited

He wasn't flattered.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 22/09/2024 19:17

TheShellBeach · 22/09/2024 19:07

He wasn't flattered.

I think he felt something (hence his message about OP and him having met before he’d met his partner) but is backpedaling furiously and is playing nice. So I think he was briefly flattered but then checked himself.

He sounds a bit like some of the sad men I know who think if you/they say “hi” to them they think you fancy them. When the most that’s happened is I’ve been more neighbours and acquaintances with the wives.

BackForABit · 22/09/2024 19:18

You didn't think their 15 year relationship was committed?

backinthebox · 22/09/2024 23:07

I think OP is coming across as one step away from a bunny boiler, I’m pretty sure Graham was not flattered he was probably thinking ‘back away without her noticing!’ OP he has told you he is in a happily committed relationship of 15 years, at no point has he shown any interest in a relationship with you! You are imagining it. Leave other women’s men alone!

Josephinesnapoleon · 23/09/2024 06:22

God some people will do anything to try to make it the man’s fault. This man’s was clear from the start it was just friends hanging out and he quickly stopped that, lying to say he was leaving early, then rejecting her when she again asked for more.

ea and over sharing my arse.

Elasticatedtrousers · 23/09/2024 06:36

He sounds as though he was just completely blindsided into a friendship where you had a clear ulterior motive and he’s now aware and has drawn a line under it.

I can’t believe he’s been called a ‘sad man’ for doing absolutely nothing wrong.

OP sounds like she orchestrated the friendship (I mean staying for a week after one evening chat is not sane) and he was a little rail roaded.

OP you need to block and move on. I understand how lonely you are but another woman’s partner is not the answer.

Shoxfordian · 23/09/2024 06:37

Find some new friends and therapy, and next time someone you meet tells you he's in a relationship then take it as a sign to step back not forwards.

Arielsmummy · 23/09/2024 06:43

Onlyonekenobe · 22/09/2024 14:02

You weren’t involved with this man. That would mean he was involved with you. He wasn’t. You had a fantasy in your head and got carried away. He’s told you baldly that whatever ideas you had should remain a fantasy. Move on. Find someone real and available ti engage with.

This. I think you're lonely and got a little fantasy going in your head. I think he behaved appropriately and did nothing to encourage anything but friendship. I would imagine he was trying to let you down without embarrassing you.
Try online dating not stealing someone else's partner

Sixpence39 · 23/09/2024 06:49

Leave him alone and get some counselling. Do not ruin two people's lives just because you're lonely!

Josephinesnapoleon · 23/09/2024 07:09

I can’t believe he’s been called a ‘sad man’ for doing absolutely nothing wrong

me too. Someone even called it an ea, someone else saying he was flattered, when it’s abundantly clear, in the ops own words it was just friends, and he talked of his partner a lot, and when the op revealed she wanted more, through words or actions he swiftly called a halt

Rerrin · 23/09/2024 08:34

OP, this is nakedly self-deluding. You decided Graham and Angela’s relationship was unhappy and uncommitted on no evidence, other than her illness (think about what an unpleasantly disablist assumption that is) and the fact that they were spending a week apart, visiting their own parents in separate places to coincide with the school reunion. You also seem to have decided that they’d have married if they ‘really’ loved one another. Graham has been perfectly upfront all along, and has never given any indication that he’s unhappy with his longterm partner — the contrary, if anything.

Your behaviour has been a bit crazed, extending your stay to see more of Graham (what did you tell work?), and then suggesting a meeting to celebrate your birthday in the Lake District, hoping he would invite you to stay in his holiday home alone with him! No wonder alarm bells started ringing.

Bluntly, OP, it’s your own job to sort out your unhappiness. You are absolutely entitled to want a relationship, but this doesn’t give you permission to essentially proposition men in committed relationships. Find a therapist and comes to terms with yourself, and find someone single.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 23/09/2024 10:57

Josephinesnapoleon · 23/09/2024 07:09

I can’t believe he’s been called a ‘sad man’ for doing absolutely nothing wrong

me too. Someone even called it an ea, someone else saying he was flattered, when it’s abundantly clear, in the ops own words it was just friends, and he talked of his partner a lot, and when the op revealed she wanted more, through words or actions he swiftly called a halt

I said it could’ve become an EA. I think he was flattered originally as he spent a lot of time with OP after meeting her. You’ve got to be a bit daft if after those meetings you didn’t get the hint OP was attracted to him. He did ok extricating himself from the situation but the man here is not entirely blameless.

TheShellBeach · 23/09/2024 11:30

He did ok extricating himself from the situation but the man here is not entirely blameless

I generally hold no brief for men, but on this occasion, he really is blameless.

Rerrin · 23/09/2024 11:48

TheShellBeach · 23/09/2024 11:30

He did ok extricating himself from the situation but the man here is not entirely blameless

I generally hold no brief for men, but on this occasion, he really is blameless.

I don’t see he did anything wrong. They had a nostalgiafest at the school reunion, got on well, and as he was staying a full week with his parents close to the school reunion venue while his partner was away visiting hers, it probably felt quite natural to hang out regularly with someone else who appeared to be doing the same thing, and was also slightly adrift in a hometown they’d both left long ago, especially when they’d specifically come back to reconnect with old schoolmates. (He wasn’t to know the OP had extended her hotel stay for him.) They met in public. No suggestion of attraction or subtext.

Clearly either Angela, or the OP’s altered behaviour around Angela when she arrived, made it clear the OP had an agenda, so he cancelled the planned drink on the last night, left town, and didn’t get in touch again till the OP messaged him.

Then they exchanged ‘friendly’ messages, it’s not clear how regularly, or over how long a period. Then the OP phoned him and suggested they meet for her birthday, and he did exactly what Mn always says to do if you feel too awkward to say an outright no, he said he couldn’t talk, temporised and said to suggest dates in writing so he could look at his diary. The OP, because she is deluded, saw his lack of outright no as ‘encouragement’.

When the OP suggested they meet in the Lake District, where he and Angela have a holiday home where he often goes alone because Angela’s condition means she’s limited in what she can do, in the hope that he was going to invite her to stay in his cottage over night (!), he realised what was going on, and replied saying it wouldn’t be appropriate, he loves and is committed to his partner, they are planning to marry, and he’s sorry if he gave the OP the wrong impression.

I think his only dubious move was (possibly from him trying to be kind, in a misguided way) saying that he likes her and if he’d met her earlier, maybe things would have been different. Which the OP is still interpreting as encouragement.

But he’s been very clear, that he sees she has feelings for him, but that they’re unreciprocated and he’s in a committed and loving relationship that he has no intention of damaging.

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