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Lost Opportunity for Happiness

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WaitingForAlexander · 22/09/2024 13:49

I think I am probably being unreasonable, but only by being unreasonable can I achieve the thing I believe will make me happy.

My greatest wish has always been to be happily married.

That's not a fashionable aspiration, I know, but however much I have lied to myself that being single is being 'free', 'independent', not having to put up with another person's annoying habits, I am not convinced.

Apart from a brief, unhappy marriage in my twenties, I have never been in a proper relationship.

I have friends, hobbies a secure (if modestly paid) job and my own (very small) home. I know I am better off than many people, but I feel desperately unhappy and unfulfilled. I just want a life-partner to share life's joys, plans and problems.

In the last year, I attended a school reunion. There I met Graham, who had been in the year above me at school. We immediately hit it off and spent most of the evening catching up together. Like me, he moved away from our home town many years ago. He had never married, but lived with his long-term partner. He spoke of Angela a lot and told me she has some kind of long-term health problems.

He is everything I have ever wanted in a man. We had so much in common and so much to talk about. I fell in love with him that evening.

He was staying with his parents for the week while Angela stayed with her parents about 20 miles away. She planned to join him later before they travelled home together.

I had only booked to stay in my hotel for the weekend, so I extended my booking so I could spend as much time as possible with Graham. He made it clear he only wanted us to be friends, but I still hoped for more.

He and Angela had been together for 15 years and I thought (or hoped) that he remained with her out of habit or pity. The fact that they were spending a week apart visiting their respective families suggested to me that the relationship was not strong and I was certain he liked me a lot, even if he was too decent to cheat on Angela.

He told me that they had a holiday cottage in the Lake District. He often goes there alone, because he enjoys hillwalking and Angela's health problems prevent her climbing hills.

We met every day after that. Always in public and always as friends. Our friendship became strong and quite intense.

We had planned just to meet for a drink on our last evening, because he was busy during the day, but I bumped into him and Angela in town during the morning. He introduced me to her and she seemed pleasant enough.

Later that afternoon, Graham sent me a text message saying he wouldn't be able to meet me that evening after all, because he and Angela had decided to go home early.

I was desperately disappointed.

A few weeks went by and I didn't hear from him, so sent him a text message thanking him for an enjoyable week and asking after him and Angela. He quickly replied and we started regularly exchanging friendly messages.

Our messages to each other mean so much to me and even this small part of him is better than nothing, but I want him so much it hurts. I dream that we are together and wake up hurting and disappointed that he is with Angela.

Yesterday morning, I called him and suggested we meet next month to celebrate my birthday. He was busy and couldn't talk for long, but suggested I send him a message with dates and details so he could put it in his diary.

Encouraged by his positive response, I sent a text message suggesting we meet in the Lake District. I said I would book into a hotel, but hoped he would invite me to stay in his holiday cottage with him.

I didn't hear anything until this morning when he sent me a message saying he enjoyed our friendship, but felt it would not be appropriate to meet as I had suggested. He said he was sorry if he had given the wrong impression, but he loves Angela and they are planning to marry next year (he has never told me that before).

The real killer though, and the thing I can't get out of my head, because it seems so unfair is that he ended the message saying, that he likes me a lot and maybe if we had met before he knew Angela that things might have been different.

How do I get over this?

My closest friend says I was unreasonable to get involved with a man in a committed relationship, but for the reasons I have said, I didn't regard it as committed.

She has also said I should go no contact with him, but for me just being friends with him is better than nothing. I couldn't bear to think of life without him in it.

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Pomegranatecarnage · 22/09/2024 14:26

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Horribly harsh.

TiramisuThief · 22/09/2024 14:28

Your behaviour is worrying OP.

You can't fall in love with someone over a weekend and trying to encourage him to have an affair is so horrible.

You sound really really unhappy. Have you ever had therapy or counselling?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 22/09/2024 14:32

YANBU to want to be in a relationship but it needs to not be someone in a 15 year relationship with someone else.

WaitingForAlexander · 22/09/2024 14:33

Thank you everyone for taking time to reply.

It's true that I hoped Graham's relationship with Angela wasn't strong and that he would prefer to be with someone who can participate with him in his hobbies, but I assumed if that was the case they would split up anyway.

He has never told me he's unhappy with Angela.

The poster who suggested I was hoping Angela would die was a being a bit harsh. Firstly, her illness is not terminal or life-shortening and secondly, I would not wish death on my worst enemy.

Having read my original post again I realise why a few posters think I was inviting Graham to stay in a hotel with me. To be clear, I suggested booking a hotel on the assumption he would stay in his holiday cottage and we would meet as friends during the day. I did hope he would suggest I stayed in the holiday cottage with him though.

I don't deny wanting a romantic relationship with him, but I didn't intend to spoil our friendship by pushing it too far. Unfortunately, it looks like I might have done that anyway.

Thanks again for your replies. I have plenty to think about. ❤️

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Josephinesnapoleon · 22/09/2024 14:37

Op,you realise he didn’t go home a day early that first time, he made an excuse to not meet you as he’s realised the strength of your feelings, even though he was very clear to you from the onset he wasn’t interested and it was just friends.

the man will be appalled you are the sort of person who would be hoping he’d cheat on or dump his unwell partner.

and lots of people spend time apart from their partner, doing things they enjoy. It isn’t the sign of a bad relationship, it’s the opposite, it’s the sign of a very healthy one. And I’m sad for you that you don’t know that.

Lurkingandlearning · 22/09/2024 14:38

It wasn’t a lost opportunity for happiness. It was just you pursuing a man who you knew was in a relationship.

Your opportunities for happiness from a relationship and marriage are out there but you need to be giving yourself a good chance of finding them by being where single men are.

Just hope that if you do get the relationship you hope for, someone like you doesn’t come along and try to fuck it up.

sonofrageandlove · 22/09/2024 14:38

I do have some sympathy for you OP, it’s hard to make good decisions when you are lonely and someone like this comes along. But you will ruin your friendship eventually. It’s inevitable that this will end badly.

Josephinesnapoleon · 22/09/2024 14:41

WaitingForAlexander · 22/09/2024 14:33

Thank you everyone for taking time to reply.

It's true that I hoped Graham's relationship with Angela wasn't strong and that he would prefer to be with someone who can participate with him in his hobbies, but I assumed if that was the case they would split up anyway.

He has never told me he's unhappy with Angela.

The poster who suggested I was hoping Angela would die was a being a bit harsh. Firstly, her illness is not terminal or life-shortening and secondly, I would not wish death on my worst enemy.

Having read my original post again I realise why a few posters think I was inviting Graham to stay in a hotel with me. To be clear, I suggested booking a hotel on the assumption he would stay in his holiday cottage and we would meet as friends during the day. I did hope he would suggest I stayed in the holiday cottage with him though.

I don't deny wanting a romantic relationship with him, but I didn't intend to spoil our friendship by pushing it too far. Unfortunately, it looks like I might have done that anyway.

Thanks again for your replies. I have plenty to think about. ❤️

Op, you have more than done that, you didn’t take the hint the first time, even though he was clear he wasn’t interested it was friendship only and then you pushed it even further hoping you could go away alone with him. To the extent he had to spell it out to you. I just can’t fathom how you can’t see it amd are all caught up in this weird romantic fantasy.

I think it’s limerance, all this because a man was nice to you.

www.psychologytoday.com/gb/basics/limerence

CraftyOP · 22/09/2024 14:44

Ah, the excuse that it's a loveless relationship or one of convenience, oldest line in the book. No man ever admits to his other woman that his other relationship is actually great and he'll go home and to bed with her. In reality he wanted his cake and to eat it for a short time. He loves his wife but he's a shit. Think yourself lucky. You deserve someone that can put you first and is honest and someone with integrity.

FaceofSpades · 22/09/2024 14:45

WaitingForAlexander · 22/09/2024 14:33

Thank you everyone for taking time to reply.

It's true that I hoped Graham's relationship with Angela wasn't strong and that he would prefer to be with someone who can participate with him in his hobbies, but I assumed if that was the case they would split up anyway.

He has never told me he's unhappy with Angela.

The poster who suggested I was hoping Angela would die was a being a bit harsh. Firstly, her illness is not terminal or life-shortening and secondly, I would not wish death on my worst enemy.

Having read my original post again I realise why a few posters think I was inviting Graham to stay in a hotel with me. To be clear, I suggested booking a hotel on the assumption he would stay in his holiday cottage and we would meet as friends during the day. I did hope he would suggest I stayed in the holiday cottage with him though.

I don't deny wanting a romantic relationship with him, but I didn't intend to spoil our friendship by pushing it too far. Unfortunately, it looks like I might have done that anyway.

Thanks again for your replies. I have plenty to think about. ❤️

But OP, why would an attached man you only connected with again on friendship terms briefly agree to meet you for a weekend break when he has a partner? He’d have to be a shit head. I’m sure you wouldn’t want to end up with a bastard, so why pursue someone you could only obtain by them being a bastard? Do you know what I mean? It’s why acting the best/most moral/most unselfish way, without being a doormat, is always the best route to happiness. Integrity only bites you on the arse very rarely, and when it does, you don’t mind that much because of the comfort of knowing you’ve acted well. I am very sorry to read how you’ve been lonely but shortcuts won’t pay off, and it’s not treating yourself well either to pursue them.

Josephinesnapoleon · 22/09/2024 14:46

CraftyOP · 22/09/2024 14:44

Ah, the excuse that it's a loveless relationship or one of convenience, oldest line in the book. No man ever admits to his other woman that his other relationship is actually great and he'll go home and to bed with her. In reality he wanted his cake and to eat it for a short time. He loves his wife but he's a shit. Think yourself lucky. You deserve someone that can put you first and is honest and someone with integrity.

What on earth are you on about. Did you even read the ops posts

CraftyOP · 22/09/2024 14:46

Also of course you can be friends with a married man. But not if one of you fancies the other one

TheShellBeach · 22/09/2024 14:46

CraftyOP · 22/09/2024 14:44

Ah, the excuse that it's a loveless relationship or one of convenience, oldest line in the book. No man ever admits to his other woman that his other relationship is actually great and he'll go home and to bed with her. In reality he wanted his cake and to eat it for a short time. He loves his wife but he's a shit. Think yourself lucky. You deserve someone that can put you first and is honest and someone with integrity.

That's not true at all.
He didn't meet up with the OP and he actively discouraged her.

Josephinesnapoleon · 22/09/2024 14:47

sonofrageandlove · 22/09/2024 14:38

I do have some sympathy for you OP, it’s hard to make good decisions when you are lonely and someone like this comes along. But you will ruin your friendship eventually. It’s inevitable that this will end badly.

The friendship is already ruined, it’s too awkward now. There is no way back.

Josephinesnapoleon · 22/09/2024 14:47

TheShellBeach · 22/09/2024 14:46

That's not true at all.
He didn't meet up with the OP and he actively discouraged her.

And spelled out he loved his partner.

TheShellBeach · 22/09/2024 14:48

Josephinesnapoleon · 22/09/2024 14:47

And spelled out he loved his partner.

Yes, exactly.

NewtonsCradle · 22/09/2024 14:48

Go on YouTube and look up crappy childhood fairy's videos on limerance.

DoYouReally · 22/09/2024 14:53

You seem completed devoid of any emotional intelligence or self respect?

Are you aware of that?

You deliberately pursued a taken man.

Hoped that fact you didn't have a physical illness would make you a better option than his ill partner.

Continued to chase with limited encouragement.

You really need help if you can't see what's wrong with your behaviour.

Autumnweddingguest · 22/09/2024 15:01

I'd go for therapy to find out why I only felt able to fall for someone I knew was unavailable, and why I preferred to spin myself unlikely stories with no basis in facts (eg that they were not happy together) than to see the world as it is - he told you he had a partner, that he only wanted to be friends.

You have every right to want a marriage and children - it's natural for a lot of us. But craving and fantasising a relationship with someone who is happily partnered is not the solution. Start dating men who are looking for long term relationships. They exist.

Stompythedinosaur · 22/09/2024 15:04

I think you should look for your own partner, not attempt to steal another woman's. I don't think you've behaved well at all.

Mls1984btc · 22/09/2024 15:08

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ManchesterGirl2 · 22/09/2024 15:09

"He is everything I have ever wanted in a man. We had so much in common and so much to talk about. I fell in love with him that evening."

You've no idea if he is everything you want in a man. You've fallen in love with an idea. You can only tell if someone is everything you want once you are dating them, finding out how they treat you, how loyal they are, how they handle conflict, how well you connect sexually, etc etc etc.

I really suggest that you get some therapy to figure out why you fell so hard for this unavailable man. Often falling for unavailable people means that we ourselves are scared of some aspect of real relationships (perhaps due to messages we learnt in our own childhood), and so we latch on to unavailable people and idealise them.

Alectoishome · 22/09/2024 15:11

This is quite a dreadful tale OP. I'm going through some major health stuff at the moment and am looking and feeling pretty rough right now. DH and I are both early 40s, been married since our mid twenties and he has never looked more handsome than he does now at 44! The idea of someone like you coming along and hoping that he is only still with me out of pity and trying to lure him away is honestly dreadful.

OtherS · 22/09/2024 15:12

You say yourself that "He made it clear he only wanted us to be friends, but I still hoped for more." He also happily introduced you to his partner without any sort of awkwardness or subterfuge. This doesn't sound like a man leading you on or considering an affair with you, it sounds like a man who was at a loose end and as he'd made it clear he wasn't available thought you were entirely happy being just friends. It then dawned on him later that you were romantically interested in him and so has told you to go away. He sounds like a good guy so hasn't bluntly told you to fuck off and leave him alone, but basically that's what he means. He told you maybe he would've liked you if he'd met you first because he didn't want to hurt your feelings so threw you a bone, which was stupid of him but it doesn't mean anything - even if it was true, he didn't meet you first so it's irrelevant. You need to stop contacting him and accept that you read the situation very wrong. Therapy might be a good idea, you sound like you may have issues with your self-esteem.

UmberFinch · 22/09/2024 15:13

It reads like the plot of one of those books in the 99p Kindle deals.

I honestly think you should look elsewhere. The vulnerable lonely part of you is latching onto something not worth latching onto. There’s better things to be found out in the world I am sure.

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