Family member awarded enhanced pip - AIBU?

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My family member has just been awarded enhanced pip in both living and mobility components.
Shes told me that she’s twisted the truth during the assessment and told the assessor that she has lots of pain and can’t really walk at all, but she walks all the time as I see her out and about - we live in a hilly area. I know people who are in a wheelchair and struggle to get enhanced rate - so I really don’t understand how she’s managed this.
I know people will say mind your own business but she’s told me she’s actually lied to them.

I agree with you@Rosscameasdoody

No you are incorrect…..no ‘medical evidence’ is required to claim…….of course you don’t have much chance of succeeding in getting an award…..but nowhere does it say you NEED medical evidence.

anyway…..no point discussing…..as it will all change in the Autumn statement…..I’m guessing there will be an official list of diagnoses ….and only people on that list will be able to apply

And you believed them. That's on you. My DS scanned in stack of medical evidence to get his PIP.

@Kitkat1523 Source re: what's in the Autumn Statement

Stop guessing, and trying to scaremonger people. You have no idea what will be in the budget.

All you people who believe that PIP is awarded on the say so of the applicants information, why don't you fill in the form, see how you get on?

Nobody knows anybody on here from Adam so you only know what has been said, remember that. I’ve never ever known anyone to get pip without medical evidence in my life, and she did say she didn’t know whether they asked her GP or therapist.

Perhaps on rare occasions they give claimants the benefit of the doubt, but if this is the case they won’t be awarded it for long periods without reassessment. It’s overwhelmingly my experience that those who are clearly entitled get refused and need to go to court if they want to fight it.

@Kitkat1523

anyway it will all be changing in the autumn budget ……talk of it being a diagnosis based benefit….so we will wait and see

Well that will be interesting seeing as you don't require a diagnosis to be classed as disabled covered by the equality act aka it will never happen

Classic newbie oversight. She could sell those pain-killers to rake in even more dosh!

Yes I believe them. It actually says on the Benefit and Work guide website that medical evidence is not necessary to claim PIP.

Anyway got to get to work now so bowing out of this thread, I think everybody has had a good say and now just getting repetitive

How would that work? You have people who are entitled to benefits because they are not able to work (eg doing accounts) and then make them do detailed accounts? How about those with learning difficulties? Bonkers and demeaning.

Surely if someone had learning difficulties they would have an appointee.

Surely if someone had learning difficulties they would have an appointee.

No, people with learning difficulties won't have an appointee why would they? Do you know what Learning difficulties are? Clearly not.

Who has time to submit accounts of every penny spent on day to day life?

She would never do that. Because it’s illegal and wrong. She has a line somewhere 🤷🏻‍♀️😅

This thread makes me so sad to read. I have had a disability for a number of years now and have been encouraged to claim pip on many occasions, I have always held off because I couldn’t cope with the stress of it all reading lots of stories of people being in a similar situation to me. I finally relented this year and was surprised to be awarded it. Nobody else was though, as I am a glass half full kind of person I try and see the bright side of everything and play my symptoms down (apart from when I’m bed bound). I now realise that I have just been coping for years.

I use my pip for things to help with my daily life. Having a disability does cost more even if people don’t realise this. And it allows me to have these things all on my own and not be reliant on other people.

My DH is a high rate tax payer if that makes everyone feel better about me claiming this money?

I think I was quite restrained tbh! The amount of ignorant opinions on this thread is staggering,

It’s just another way to try and dehumanise people. Disabled people can’t live as normal a life as possible, they have to have very little quality of life to qualify for PIP as well as have their spending monitored and deemed appropriate 🤣🤣 I cannot believe I’m reading this shit. These are people who already have hard lives, leave them the f**k alone and enjoy your fully able body!

The irony is, it’s called Personal Independence Payment. It’s supposed to make life easier and more independent, yet when it’s spent on a car, people moan because they don’t think it’s fair they can’t have one 🤣 and now they want people to lose full control over their money. Jesus Christ.

Would you like to PM me &for the public social media accounts of the person I'm referring to? Then you can see for yourself that they do indeed do extreme sports, while claiming to need 24 hour care and a wheelchair.

That was me! I exist, and I'm still getting PIP. I've had three reassessments and extentions to my PIP (until 2030 at the moment) and no medical evidence has been submitted. But apparently I must be wrong 😂

They ask for access to medical records but very rarely check them! My DD has PIP and i have had it confirmed by both her GP and consultant that they have never asked for any information from them nor asked for her medical records!

No thank you, I am not concerned with over investing myself with what complete strangers are doing. Maybe others should try doing the same. I was just commenting on the fact that all these people doing these things, seem to be rather loose of tongue as well. Fascinating!

But you are, though. You're here making comments about them. And yes, she is loose of tongue. She positively gloats about her PIP and her new car every few years. She also works full time in a very physically demanding job, and laughs that her PIP is her holiday money.

I also work full time as a disabled person, from my bed, and haven't been on a family holiday since I was 15, and that was to Cornwall. It is a bit sickening when you witness people "showing off" about how they've managed to play the system, when actual disabled people are struggling for support.

That’s not the way PIP works. It doesn’t look at specific disability, but the effects of it, and no condition affects any two people in exactly the same way or to the same degree. So a list of diagnoses, excluding all other disabled people from applying wouldn’t be lawful and would definitely invite a legal challenge for discrimination. It would also necessitate all of the assessment criteria to change because they would no longer be relevant. Expensive and unlikely. More likely is some form of tightening of eligibility criteria to make it harder to claim, or to close out those with short term or low level disability. I can definitely see conditions such as anxiety and depression being ruled out unless claimants are currently under the care of a mental health team.