Teachers given lie-ins and extra days off

[LaughingPig]

The Guardian is reporting today that state schools are offering perks in an attempt to attract and retain teachers. These include lie-ins, whereby teachers will start later one day a week, a day off each fortnight and even the chance to work from home.

Clearly there is an issue with getting enough high-quality teachers into the profession and keeping them there. However, I’m not sure how these initiatives will go down with taxpayers on the back of successive teachers’ strikes, schools closing for months during lockdown and now inflation-busting pay rises.

Would you be happy with your DC’s teacher arriving to school late after a relaxing lie-in or logging on from home?

YABU- teachers deserve lie-ins
YANBU- teachers should be in class teaching DC

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As a teacher I'm always fewmin about the people still in bed when I go to work.

Joking.

I'm an adult that understands different work patterns are acceptable. I understand that some people work 7-5, some 10-4 and others any times in between. I'd love a lie in so I could drop my own children to school.

I think you need to reflect on your attitude and your perception of teachers and the demands of their job .

Would you walk past any other professionals house and judge them for daring to have curtains shut and possibly being asleep? Your snooty tone about supposed other “ hardworking “ parents being upset by a sleeping teacher is ridiculous! And also why would you know where they live?? Teachers are not public property or answerable to you just because they teach your children . They are human beings with a right to privacy away from your scrutiny .

Also just so you know , when my son ( who’s a teacher ) comes round at weekends he often brings his laptop and marking . And if it’s a weeknight evening he sometimes nips out to make a call to parents to discuss any concerns . So no , he’s not skipping out of work at 3pm and clocking off . He works bloody hard and any “ perks “ to make his life a little easier would be gratefully welcomed . And a little bit more appreciation and understanding of challenges from entitled parents wouldn’t go amiss either !! Whether his curtains are open or not!!

@Unitedthebest

U3 is a classroom teaching role.

Clearly you don’t like the idea

why do you consider parents anymore hardworking than the teachers?

you could train to become a teacher if it bothers you so much,

Using the words ‘lie in’ is frankly ridiculous.
Teaching is an extremely inflexible job, in a world which is becoming increasingly flexible.

There aren’t enough people wanting to become teachers. Putting up the salary isn’t tempting enough, so improving working conditions is the next option. It’s worth a try, but it’s still probably won’t go far enough. Teaching will never be able to be as flexible as many other professions because of the need to stick to a timetable.

@Unitedthebest

There are also opportunities for teachers who take on extra responsibility to earn up to £16,553 on top of their base salary.

Leading practitioners can earn over £85,000 in London!

When I was teaching in the 80s, we worked to rule, only doing contracted hours - no sports fixtures, trips, concerts or performances. If we ran out of time doing reports, tough. We soon got a pay rise.

Im usually a guardian reader but even i can see the guardian have been pretty inflammatory in how they've reported this.

Its just a flexible working arrangement. Rebadge that lie in as one day in a fortnight when your child's teacher can actually hear their own child read in the morning, drop their own child to school.

A bit of time they can work from home if they choose, just like many of you do, and maybe avoid an expensive or packed rush hour commute.

Teachers already have planning time outside of the classroom. Why is it an issue if they work from home for it?

And? We don’t deserve pay rises?
did you not read anything else in my post or are you choosing to ignore it?

Be a teacher!! Do it!! It’s obviously easy 😊

Oh I'd wondered where you'd been for the past hour or so since your post before this one. Obviously filling in that application form eh? Because £60K a year, 13 weeks holidays, late starts and early finishes, you'd be mad not to apply to become a teacher.

Yes?

I work full time but I don't teach 9-10 on a Thursday morning.
What difference would it actually make if I came into work for 10?

Also-just in case you ever wondered…you are ‘that’ parent 😂

Is the OP a real person or AI?

And many schools won’t pay it anyway.

@cardibach

As well as U3, there are also opportunities for teachers who take on extra responsibility to earn up to £16,553 on top of their base salary.

Leading practitioners can earn over £85,000 in London!

I’m the school governor on the pay committee. I see what band everyone is on across the school and applications for increases.

Yet again, you’re taking stats out of thin air and have zero understanding of context.

Ha, 60k a year! Google is not your friend here op, the vast vast majority of teachers get way less than that. You are so funny with your curtains etc, I can't believe you are actually serious about any of this - no one can possibly be so silly.

@LaughingPig you have avoided pay rises for doctors and train drivers. Why the hatred on teachers? Is it because you applied and failed?

How would working from home work? Would the kids still go into school but the lessons be delivered over video? I’m thinking more of primary age kids…basically would we have to WFH with kids there or arrange childcare or would they still go to school. How engaged would a class of 6/7 year olds be over video? Or would someone else cover the lessons that day in school?

@Baike

Teachers who take on extra responsibility have the opportunity to earn these figures.

There are also opportunities for teachers who take on extra responsibility to earn up to £16,553 on top of their base salary.
Leading practitioners can earn over £85,000 in London!

Barely any earn this.

Some very experienced department head and pastoral leads could earn £50-60k in London, yes. Have you seen what it costs to live in london? To put a child in nursery there? 60k is not a high wage in london. An accountant 4 years out of university will earn that. A lawyer 4 years out of university - more like double. A teacher 4 years out of university might be on £35k.

I want my kids taught by well paid people.

Leading practitioners can earn over £85,000 in London!

Find me one that does.

You’ve misunderstood whats being proposed by a goady and ill-informed thread.

What a goady insincere post OP. Get in the bin.

Who gives a shit?

Anyone with this kind of patronising, entitled, judgemental attitude as clearly never spent a day or two behind the scenes in a school and witnessed first hand how bloody hard teachers and support staff work.