To ask if you’ve ever become obsessed with a murder case?

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I was watching a true crime podcast on YouTube and it finished and went to a random suggestion and it was a 2 minute video of a crime scene inside a subway from the 80s on an ordinary news channel.

I looked into the case and there’s nothing on it apart from a one column blurb in the newspaper at the time and the victims photo being sold on Amazon. It’s so weird .. and I can’t stop thinking about it.

Anyone else?

My late mother and I went to visit her cousin who lived near one of the fox murders.
She was elderly but had previously kept her bungalow like a palace,had a good social life and lots of visitors. Mum had not seen her for some time and was shocked at her appearance. She was obsessed with the murders and in a bad way. She had the curtains drawn. Would only leave the house if absolutely vital. She had few visitors and said she hardly slept. She was listening all the time for any strange noises. At the time I didn't realise how vulnerable murders make the community feel as i was young and i suppose i thought it couldnt happen to anyone i knew.My very strong and fearless mother did become a bit suspicious of doctors during the Shipman investigations.
I am particularly interested in the backgrounds of murderers. For example in the Wallace case , Julia Wallace had apparently told everyone that she was a lot younger than she was and kept the deceit going for years .The Wests are interesting too. Both Rose and Fred had terrible upbringings. I once worked with a lady who had lived near Fred when she was a young newly wed. Fred had apparently offered her lifts ( think he had a motorbike?) A local business owner told her not to accept. He said that she would be killed..referring to his reckless driving .

My grandmother was terrified of The Fox just like your mum's friend. She talked about him constantly and she kept the curtains closed. We were sick of hearing her going on about him, I don't think we understood why she was so frightened.

I know someone who was in prison for murder for many years. He was released in 2008. I managed to find only a very small mention in a newspaper of the crime which was very different to his recount. Totally shocked me as I'd blindly believed what he told me and felt sorry for him for many years. Shocking

Arthur Labinjo-Hughes was a sad one for me, the suffering he went through and the video footage of him broke my heart.

I went to look and refresh my memory of this case. That night Rose's mother heard a whispered conversation, which sounded like it was inside their chalet, soon after everyone was in bed.
Then there's the fact that although she had apparently walked seven miles in jungle terrain, there was no sign of that on Rose's feet. She had scratches and bruises elsewhere, but her feet were dirty, yet unblemished.
Very strange indeed. Then the cops were absolutely useless and would not investigate further. That poor family.

No, not those. Thanks for responding though. I think it had "country" in the title.

Love podcast British Murders with Stuart Blues. I recommended a murder to look at and my real name is credited in one of those.

They were released without charge, Kevin Gosden even apologised to them for their arrest which seems odd to me.

Who's Rose? The post you're quoting is talking about Nora Quoirin.

Her body was decomposed after several days dead in the heat and in water. Cuts and scratches won't be visible after that level of decomposition. She could in fact walk unaided as shown in footage of her at the airport etc. A major thing was made of her being found naked, but she only wore underwear to bed and could well have removed them when they were wet or soiled.

I do think unfortunately her death was a tragic accident. A door left unlocked and a jetlagged, confused child - it's easy to see how it could have happened. Poor child. I was truly hoping she would be found alive. Similar to Arian Arnold recently - no crime, just a sad incident of a child getting lost and dying of exposure.

Not murder, but I have a morbid fascination for plane accidents. Was obsessed with MH370 for some time.

Also space travel disasters.

I love flying, bizarrely!

Yes it was utterly heartbreaking as I said I have a child with similar disabilities and he can walk for miles she was incredibly vulnerable and relied on her parents for everything,I could be very wrong but I think she accidentally locked herself out and walked around untill she was exhausted ,my son would just remove his clothes if they got wet he doesn't have the understanding of it being inappropriate personally I think it was a tragic accident.

Sorry, mixed the name up with another case.

Oooh you would LOVE Admiral Cloudberg's articles.

https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/

She writes lengthy analyses of major air disasters and accidents. If you google a plane crash and Cloudberg, you'll likely get an article she wrote. She's an extremely engaging writer who manages to get across complex engineering problems in terms simple for the layman to understand, and also writes with such sympathy for the dead in these accidents, crew and passengers included.

"Children of the magenta" is a particularly interesting article of a crash that doesn't get much recognition:

admiralcloudberg.medium.com/children-of-the-magenta-the-crash-of-american-airlines-flight-965-b16f57c34cfe

Wow thanks for the recommendation, looks right up my street!

You'll lose yourself in these articles for weeks! The Germanwings pilot suicide, the Russian plane where the pilot let his children in the cockpit, the Uberlingen midair collision...

The Tenerife disaster! There's so many incredibly well written and researched articles. Tenerife in particular because of its high profile is so good.

JonBenét Ramsey

Thanks!! Working through these
Know they're all sad and bad but it's Tenerife and they saw how one moment of that day not happening and it could've all changed..everything just came together so wrong.

The Lori Vallow/Cult Mom/Chad Daybell case. I started following really early on when the kids were still considered only missing and Lori and her husband had run away to Hawaii.

Most probably the most outrageous, insane case I’ve ever heard about, probably all the more because it happened in real time over a (seemingly) long period - evidence was being uncovered every so often and released to the public, the other family and cult members either speaking out or their previous antics being exposed. I was on a Facebook group for it and it was actually riveting watching it all unfold. There were other unexplained deaths as well as Chad killing his wife to be with Lori (and his kids still support him!) The day they found the children’s bodies and released the phone call between Lori while she was in jail and Chad while they were searching his property gave me chills. Awful stuff. Crazy how people can be brainwashed.

For those interested in the Jonbenet Ramsey case - there's a programme on channel 5 this Thursday about it.

No it was proven Azaria could only have been taken & killed by a dingo.

Her cardigan was missing when her other clothes were found at the time of Lindy's trial.

But a few years later the cardigan was found by police investigating a man who had fallen & died at a far away part of Ayres Rock/Ularu. It could only have got there if a dingo had taken it.

On this evidence Lindy was set free.

There is no evidence pointing to the boys.

Yes. I do hope the little girls had some kind of a decent life after losing their parents and grandmother.

No. Because you know, those were real people who left grieving families behind. I think it's disrespectful to take a ghoulish interest in all the gory details. Honestly it's grim. Is it really enjoyable, poring over all the details of somebody else's suffering?

No, it's not about enjoyment, or not for me at any rate. I can only speak for myself, but I think the reason certain cases have never left my head is that they affected me emotionally even though I didn't know the people concerned. Others on the thread have voiced similar sentiments.

How the Beslan School Seige is forgotten when over 300 children were murdered is astounding.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslanschooll_siege

That's not it at all. It's because we care about the victims and their families, want to see justice done and are outraged when killers get away with it.
There might be a few ghouls, but most true crime buffs hate these killers with a passion. It's not enjoyable. It's not for fun. I often cry when thinking about some of these cases, what the victims went through and how their families are suffering. I'm sure others do as well.
There's a line from a Bruce Cockburn song that sums it up for me; "kick at the darkness until it bleeds daylight." That's what it is- confronting the darkest part of humanity and understanding how it works in hopes that one day we can put an end to these crimes. The more people who are willing to confront this and who care, the better.
If you don't get it that's okay, but there's no call to make those kind of accusations.