To ask if you’ve ever become obsessed with a murder case?

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I was watching a true crime podcast on YouTube and it finished and went to a random suggestion and it was a 2 minute video of a crime scene inside a subway from the 80s on an ordinary news channel.

I looked into the case and there’s nothing on it apart from a one column blurb in the newspaper at the time and the victims photo being sold on Amazon. It’s so weird .. and I can’t stop thinking about it.

Anyone else?

That doesn't surprise me at all-in the tang Hall area,there are a lot of families who are hard working,fantastic parents and lovely people-i grew up there and never had a problem-lovely place to grow up

And then there is the scum-and I've had dealings with some of those families
the ones who allow their kids to do what ever they like and if you'd hit him,they would have blamed you

It's hull road-good rep,working class
Tang hall-bad rep,poor class (but most are not like that,they are just doing their best in an area where there's not much going)
Heworth-posh,middle class and where most want to live

All in the same area-I don't mean that to sound snobby at all,I just know the area well

*Sharontheodopolodous *I didn't know the 'areas' of York at all, when l moved down there, l'd looked at one flat (no idea where it was, the estate agent took me there!) and didn't like it, l said do you have anything else, and he took me to the Olympian Court one.
Very nice 'estate', mostly professional people from what l could tell, just off Hull Road, l liked the apartment so l took it. I felt safe there, it had very good security, and l hadn't a clue about the reputation Tang Hall had, but to be honest my home town wasn't great either, and l'm ex police so l'm fairly savvy about looking out for myself. I never had any bother while l was there, though.

@ChickAndTheDuck I watched the Netflix documentary again the other night. How anyone could do that to his pregnant wife and those poor little girls is beyond belief. To get the girls out of bed and take them on a 45 minute drive to their deaths with their poor mother lay dead at their feet is horrific. I can't bear to imagine the fear those two little girls must have felt. How his family can forgive him so easily is beyond me. I don't care what anyone says about the wife being bossy or whatever, there is such a thing as divorce, he could have just left her. No one deserves what he did to them. He is an absolute monster. I'm interested to know what you mean about him acting alone, do you think someone else was involved?

@Neverheather a lot of people, particularly on Facebook fora think that his girlfriend was involved in their murders.
I don't. I think he acted alone.
Also, I think the girls would have been very confused. I like to think they wouldn't have been too scared, mainly because he'd never harmed them previously.
To all intents and purposes, he was a good dad, before this.

Yes, it was a frightening time sometimes. He operated over a big geographic area, Yorks and Lancs, and then of course there was the Wearside Jack tape, which of course no one realised was a fake at the time. Parents were very scared, we soon learned that there was safety in numbers when we went out, and you were absolutely carpeted if you ever got back late from anywhere.

Ironically, some years later, I teamed up with someone who has become my very best friend. At the time of his capture, she was working as a young midwife and her beat included the red light district of Sheffield, (tales of which you don’t want to hear about😱) And then, one time on holiday in Cornwall, we pitched tent next door to a nice young couple from Bradford…..who lived next door to the Ripper’s ex wife😱

The TV drama was named The Long Shadow for a very good reason.

@Amdone123 Thanks for explaining that and I agree, I think he acted alone, that's why I wondered what the other poster thought. Yes, I really hope the girls were just confused and not scared, as he was their dad and they probably felt safe with him.

Not murders (live in hope) but there's a lot of missing children I think about and google every now and then. Summer Wells. William Tyrell, the 10 year anniversary of his disappearance just passed. Sky Metalwala.

The Long Shadow was excellent but I still have a preference for its forebear 'This is Personal' (I think It's on youtube).

The Steve Wright murders bother me a lot. Not least because of how vulnerable those women were, and how nobody remembers their names. As prostituted women they were 'just' that, and a collective almost.
It seemed very easily forgotten about as if they were disposable.

Yeah, I do. I think Nicole Kessinger lied about thinking he was separated and not knowing that Shanann was pregnant, but I think those were lies to make herself look better, not to cover up any involvement in the murders.

I agree. There’s no way Nicole wasn’t looking at Shannan’s social media, and not know that he was “happily” married and that she was pregnant.

I don’t think she knew he was going to murder them, or that she was in any way involved

agree - I know there’s a bunch of videos on YouTube about how she was involved but there’s no evidence for this and although she doesn’t seem like a very good person and was obviously very interested in self preservation so lied about some things to police I think it’s a big old stretch to claim she had a hand in what he did.

it is kinda interesting about her being linked to the OTO though.

Yes, me too. My son was born a week after the murder of baby P, it truly affected me, my husband told me about because he knew I would hear it on the news, absolutely heartbreaking, that poor child

First thing the landlord of our Sheffield uni house said to us was ‘they caught the Yorkshire ripper just behind here’ (Broomhill).

A few interest me for various reasons,
I'm one of the evil boomers and just before I was born a 7 year old boy from near us was murdered and the murderer was never found. Fast forward to the '80s, we were viewing a house and when the vendor heard where I was from he mentioned this murder, he'd been a policeman working on the case. He told us that they knew who'd done it but couldn't prove it, they let the man know, he didn't deny it, and he moved away shortly afterwards but the police made sure that wherever he went the local police knew.
Another time I read a short piece in a newspaper about a murder, didn't recognise the name but scanning the death notices in the paper realised it was our former baby-sitter, it was an awful feeling.
When a 3 year old went missing in a NAAFI shop in Germany, never to be found, we were in that shop the same day and our 3 year old was so like her.

When he was caught my late OH said Shit, that's Pete I worked with in Bingley churchyard when In was a student!

The BBC’s ‘Paradise’ podcast. Death in ice valley. And Serial. But the paradise podcast was particularly emotional. The scene in the cemetery with the family sent shivers.

The Yorkshire Ripper- I was late teens/early 20s when he was at large and it was a very terrifying time for those of us in the north.
The whole case fascinates me, particularly the lives of those poor victims, both the girls he killed and the ones he attacked who survived.

Rachel Nickell, Wimbledon Common. Witnessed by her toddler son 😥

A couple of people have mentioned Genette Tate, Robert Black was due to be charged but died beforehand. Pretty sure he’s suspected of April Fabb’s murder amongst many others. He was a lorry driver and is linked to cases on the continent too

I regularly get obsessed with a case.
Making of a Murderer
JonBenet Ramsey
etc.
Just watched a documentary on Amazon about Keli Lane. Wow. Just fascinating. Couldn’t understand why she got pregnant so often and nobody acknowledged it.

The murder of Jamie Bulger. I had a dream about him when I was pregnant. It was extremely vivid and real. He came to me out of a dark space, not like a normal dream where you’re in a location. I was nowhere, it was just a black space and he was suddenly there, naked and covered in blue paint.

He held his arms out to be picked up and said, “I cried and cried and no one came.”, and then I woke up because I was so upset. Haunted for days.

And since then the case has really played on my mind. I can’t get over the evil.

Baby P affected me in the same way as a result.

@CauliflowerBalti I still think about those poor little boys a lot too!

I feel that when I get the time I will solve the 'Jack the ripper' case. It gripped me decades ago n still does.

I'm obsessed with the Chris Watts family killer on YouTube.