To be absolutely sick of excuses being made for men's disgusting sexual behaviour? Trigfer warning. Hugh Edwards sentencing.

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Just read that Hugh Edwards ahs been given a suspended sentence.

And if course it's not his fault. He had a mean Daddy and some mental health issues and some bad things going on in his life, poor lamb.

All that made him say 'amazing' when sent photos of children as young as 7 being molested.

Having a rough time and a strict father doesn't make you a fucking paedophile!!!

Take responsibility for your predatory and vile behaviour!!

Many many men who were sexually abused as children don't become paedophiles when adults. I said it up thread but I'll say it again. I know a man who's a CSA victim - and he despises child abusers.

Alarmingly, they are seeking to ''rebrand'' paedopilia.
Sneaking in under the widening ''Rainbow inclusion flag''.

childrenofthedigitalage.org/rebranding-paedophilia/

Oh don't worry I am more than aware of this. My point about watered down language applies to a lot under that sick banner too!

Both posts are truly sick

I feel more rage than I can type over that kind of thing

And you'd be charged, convicted and placed on the sex offenders register. You've committed the offence by receiving the images. Of course you won't see the inside of a jail cell, but you're rightly a convicted paedophile and people will treated you accordingly.

No purpose in sending him to prison apart from sending the very obvious message that if you find yourself purchasing images of child abuse you'll go to prison.
People have been imprisoned recently for 'inciting hated' online.... he incited chid abuse.

https://x.com/BarristerSecret/status/1835673864614887851?t=_42MfIplf-rLG928sNNchQ&s=19 as usual the Secret Barrister has broken this down to explain the reasoning, and the full sentencing report is now available to read. As stated in this post on X, understanding why he received the sentence is absolutely NOT the same as condoning it.

The problem is all men and too many women. If the men aren't abusing, they protecting the ones that do and those women apologise on behalf of those men

To extrapolate from a single example is less than convincing;
However, I do take your point, and plan to look at the research
around this.

Which posts are sick?

For clarification, the acronym I was referring to was a twenty-year old joint venture with various agencies across a city for the protection of children and the prevention of sexual abuse. It stood for Multi Agency Protection. The paedophiles were not the people who were being 'protected'. The idea was that rehabilitation of sexual offenders would work to protect children from sexual abuse.

The evidence produced by NOTA - a charity supporting professionals with rehabilitating sexual offenders and who worked with the initiative - suggested that the likelihood of rehabilitating adult male sex offenders was slim. But there was, at the time, an indication that if the red flags were caught early enough in childhood then treatment and rehabilitation was sometimes possible. The idea was that this would prevent those boys/adolescents going on to commit serious offences at a later age, and might also prevent future children from experiencing the horror of being abused.

The agencies working across that initiative included the police, local hospitals, guardians ad litem and lawyers, the social services, and NOTA. It was not a hub for the harbouring of paedophiles, nor was it a ring, nor was it apologism for their disgusting actions. It was intended to stop them. It was an honorable initiative, which certainly had nothing to do with the later foul acronym 'minor attracted person', a phrase which wasn't even in circulation at that time. The initiative pre-dated that by a period of decades.

The recurrence of a once-innocuous acronym in its later far more nefarious meaning is nothing more than an unfortunate coincidence. Hope this clarifies.

No purpose in sending him to prison apart from sending the very obvious message that if you find yourself purchasing images of child abuse you'll go to prison.
People have been imprisoned recently for 'inciting hated' online.... he incited chid abuse.

I agree.

I have been saying for years that they will eventually try to normalise pedophilia. It's the next step isn't it....the P to add to the long list of letters standing for different sexual fetishes that we are all supposed to not only support, but celebrate....this is part of it. Low sentences for crimes which amount to child abuse.

In all crimes there are various thresholds for sentencing. As a society we generally understand that until It’s someone in the public eye and then we want retribution with knobs on. It’s not what a Justice system should be and over time, sentences have become longer. What difference has it made? We need to think of prevention.

It seems as if there is a glaring flaw in the human male psyche ie that they are extremely prone to this type of criminal behavior.
As well as all the other types of criminal behaviour that they are prone to.

At the same time I want to believe that most of this could be mitigated by upbringing education etc.
We need to look at why underlying impulses are prone to this kind of expression. This is not to excuse the perpetrators of course but it's important to understand issues so that we can deal with them.

Thank you for posting this @Trainstrike - both the thread and sentencing report make interesting reading and answer so many questions raised on this thread

I wasn't previously aware of his neuro-cognitive difficulties [SVD = small vessel disease] which goes some way to elucidating his poor recall, lack of judgement and impaired impulse control

And also that he's been in the Nightingale hospital right up until today -?still there

It’s a tale as old as time. It’s perpetrated by men from all walks of life, in every country in the world. An Australian study found 1 in 6 men had sexual feelings towards children and 1 in 15 said they would have sexual contact with a child aged 14 or under if they thought they could get away with it https://www.humanrights.unsw.edu.au/sites/default/files/documents/Identifying%20and%20understanding%20child%20sexual%20offending%20behaviour%20and%20attitudes%20among%20Australian%20men.pdf

A cynical view but I don’t feel there is much to be done in terms of early psychosocial interventions. The vast majority of women who experience sexual abuse and traumatic upbringings don’t go on to sexually abuse children.

What- rather than the likes of GB News?

You do know you get female pedophiles, right?

Your one contribution to this thread and this is all you can offer?

They obviously felt it their duty to remind everyone that it doesn't matter what men do, because it's not just them, it's women too and it's important that we remember this so that the poor men don't shoulder all the blame

We blame everyone but the man who done the crime.

He managed just fine on TV for long periods of time when big events happened like the Queens funeral so I really doubt this diagnosis and no I’m no psychiatrist just have zero bullshit radar.

I'm pretty sure the professionals concerned have greater capacity to diagnose svd than members of the public do. I also imagine that people who have had relatives with vascular disease / dementia recall not seeing the signs at the time and only recognising what was happening to their loved ones in retrospect.

Don't all those things involve using an autocue? The neuro-psychiatrist is suggesting mild cognitive impairment which wouldn't effect his ability to read. Plus CT/MRI would show SVD as would the neuro-psychiatric assessment

Just think it's an interesting small piece of the jigsaw which does impair higher cognitive function like judgement in subtle ways - and hasn't really been reported in the MSM eg the Guardian said he has arteriosclerosis effecting his heart which often accompanies SVD but isn't the same thing

Can't see why it's bullshit really

of course he has hidden himself away in a private mental health hospital 🙄

all the better for him when it came to sentencing

he is received the most lenient of sentences because this is what money pays for the best defence team

It’s an utter disgrace that he is no longer considered a risk or danger to children