To be absolutely sick of excuses being made for men's disgusting sexual behaviour? Trigfer warning. Hugh Edwards sentencing.

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Just read that Hugh Edwards ahs been given a suspended sentence.

And if course it's not his fault. He had a mean Daddy and some mental health issues and some bad things going on in his life, poor lamb.

All that made him say 'amazing' when sent photos of children as young as 7 being molested.

Having a rough time and a strict father doesn't make you a fucking paedophile!!!

Take responsibility for your predatory and vile behaviour!!

We haven't heard, because he's still got it. He's not going to be handing that back.

Do men get bored of 'normal' porn and have to use something more extreme?

Gail Dines has spent her life researching porn, she wrote a book called Portland some years ago, more recently she has conducted interviews with men convicted of sexual offences against children, men who are not paedophiles in that they are not attracted to children but are seeking "novelty" because through excessive consumption of extreme porn they have become desensitised to things that would usually repulse them.

I wonder what other societal changes extreme porn is contributing to.

He should certainly get no pension from the BBC after this. How can they justify people paying the licence fee to pay the pension of a convicted paedophile?

Apparently a call for a "sexual harm prevention order" was rejected.

https://x.com/JournalismSEEN/status/1835652151709716658

The magistrate even rejected a call for a Sexual Harm Prevention Order, which would allow the authorities to monitor Edwards’ social media use.

I think sadly as long as some people are able to have access to mobile phones whilst inside (contraband not legal access) then they will still be able to access CSA images or have images/content sent to them. It’s absolutely horrendous to even think about but logically the previous commenter (forgot their name) was right in that if they really want to continue to offend whilst inside then they potentially could continue to do so. It truly is depressing

As a clinical forensic psychologist on Radio 2 said today, most paedophiles have this SEXUALITY. It's not situational, something people do when times get tough, it's something they ARE, something they've always been, at least during adulthood.

He finds adolescents and children attractive.

As he and most other paedophiles out there won't change, they shall all be castrated or killed. I know people don't want to talk about it, and that killing people seems 'cruel' in this day and age, but proven paedophilia should be punished by death. It's the only way to guarantee they won't hurt another child. Prison is fine but we don't have the resource to keep jailed forever.

I'm sick of this being acceptable. To walk away into freedom is mental. Ethically criminal.

Interesting that he showed remorse on the day of sentencing and that will be recorded as such. What it won’t be is honest.

My daughter’s abuser displayed remorse on the day of sentencing. It’s there in the transcript, all nice and shiny and hopeful. That has all changed. Or maybe it never really was.
The update? He shows a lack of remorse, lack of insight into his behaviour and the harm he delivered, has refused all rehabilitation services and treatment. He’s out on license in two weeks, despite the fact that he is still a dangerous person whose abusive and predatory desires haven’t been erased by the Power of Justice <insert hollow laugh here>.

I think too many on this thread, under the guise of expertly debating the faulty judicial process and prison system, are institutionalised in their own thinking and unwilling to accept that these dangerous men, like Huw Edwards, despise people, hence the reason he’s a predator and an abuser whose only path is one of escalation.

Ours isn’t a justice system that supports and upholds people’s safety. And here’s the even better news: Prison reform will never be (full stop) and even if it were to be, it would never look like what we need it to, nor will it ever happen because well, why would our government prioritise funding a system that upholds justice and safety for victims and civilians alike? What a waste of money!
There’s a long history doing just the opposite for victims.

The reason he and other disgusting perverts like him are not in prison is because prisons would be full of them.

My friend is married to one. He has had 6 separate allegations made against him over 16 years, by, completely unconnected, young males and only one went to court (some were not pursued because the victims refused to testify when they realised they would be named- out of embarrassment and because they were so scared of him, two were not pursued because the damage done to the mental health of the victims made them weak witnesses according to the CPS) . He was found guilty of the one that did - a sexual assault- and given an 18 months suspended sentence. He retired from the church with a full pension and a church property. He was on the sick, on full-pay, for 3 years suffering 'mental health' issues from the stress of two investigations, including the final one which led to prosecution.

My friend remains married to him. She does not believe he is guilty and they moved about as far away as you can get in England from where it all happened to a retirement in a very nice seaside resort where no one knows his past.

It is very hard to even sack them when they are not prosecuted. The church was 'keen to be fair' despite several internal investigations being highly critical of him and his behaviours/attitudes and controlling personality. Meanwhile, he feels bitter and badly done to.

Nobody wants to work in prisons.....there is no staff

Also, there are already many Sex offender prisons in this country....yes, just for them...

Yes, because he got caught....

Quite.

Now that is outrageous and I hope it’s appealed.

Please don't. We need more women on this site like you, and the repugnant incels and their ilk shouldn't be allowed to chase off what was once so good and positive about this site.

For the sake of my own mental health I take breaks from posting on these issues from time to time. I have to. I've been a victim of rape, assault and abuse myself. But we need more intelligent voices of dissent to outnumber the MRAs and their handmaidens (and I make no apologies for using that term. It's precisely what they are) that infest this place. They've already got Reddit., and TwiX, and every other woman-hating corner of the toxic www. They're not having our Mumnset too!

There are still one hell of a lot of good women left who will not swallow down and buy the line that we should constantly pander to the cult of dick whilst throwing ourselves under the bus in the process. The self-flagellating apologists who challenge us every five minutes to 'think about the men' can get to fuckery. No, thank you. Men have more than enough powerful voices and forces in society making very damned sure that they are okay. They are hardly in need of women's protection, not that we are able to provide it or even engage a listening audience for the most part.

NO to that fucking noise.

I'll second that if I may, and am honestly not sure why there's been a pile on for WinterMorn in particular, when all they've done is told the truth about the systems currently in place.
Even the comment that the sentence is "actually quite punitive for a first offence" wasn't admiring it - they've been clear that they don't - but a reflection on how it works under present guidelines

It seems most of us agree that sentencing guidelines need complete reform but the state they're in is hardly the fault of any individual poster

If you receive without asking, a post on your phone and open it without knowing what was inside, only to discover it has illegal photos you would delete them, of course. However, years later the police do a deep search your phone, which will lead you to being in court for having indecent photos. You would have to admit to being guilty, you couldn’t deny it, the photos are there deep in your delete records.
‘Making" indecent images can have a wide legal definition’ it can include: opening an email attachment containing an image.

Should be mandatory castration.

Even that doesn't work on some of them.

His name is Huw. Huw Edwards. I realise it’s not the focus of the post, but using correct names matters. Huw.

What an absolute bastard , I havent read the whole thread but I really hope his whole family have ostrasized him

You are so right. Dear Lord, I wish that you weren’t. But you are. Some men are just so, so awful.

I have Twitter blocked, but it's said elsewhere that the Chief Magistrate felt he's "not a danger to the public" so denied it - except I thought that monitoring SM use was supposed to be a necessary part of the ongoing process?

Do the infamous "sentencing guidelines" apply here, or is it something that's left to the discretion of individual magistrates - and if so why?

Someone said he lives with his mother now

Perhaps they fear what ' ordinary decent criminals' might do to the likes of him, if they were to put him behind bars...

I don’t see why he, and others like him, can’t be castrated. I also think a 6month stint in prison (not locked up with other paedophiles) on the regular wings is just what he needs to ensure he never does anything like this again. He’d be bloody sorry then.

that is all your BBC. Saville, this one, the same lot. Keep watching your shite national tv