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To be absolutely sick of excuses being made for men's disgusting sexual behaviour? Trigfer warning. Hugh Edwards sentencing.

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UCConfuseMe · 16/09/2024 13:13

Just read that Hugh Edwards ahs been given a suspended sentence.

And if course it's not his fault. He had a mean Daddy and some mental health issues and some bad things going on in his life, poor lamb.

All that made him say 'amazing' when sent photos of children as young as 7 being molested.

Having a rough time and a strict father doesn't make you a fucking paedophile!!!

Take responsibility for your predatory and vile behaviour!!

To be absolutely sick of excuses being made for men's disgusting sexual behaviour? Trigfer warning. Hugh Edwards sentencing.
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WinterMorn · 16/09/2024 18:01

The prison service is in a huge mess thanks to successive governments and despite the many dedicated members of staff, some of whom are on this thread, there is an issue with contraband, mobile phones and so forth. Some of this inevitably relates to convictions.

RainbowZebraWarrior · 16/09/2024 18:01

YellowphantGrey · 16/09/2024 17:59

Are you surprised you've faced hostility when you've come on and tried to control the narrative by insisting it's women too, providing stats to justify this and then tried to stop people feeling angry over a paedophile walking free

People are allowed to be angry, it's not your job to stop this or minimise his crime

Absolutely agree with this.

WinterMorn · 16/09/2024 18:04

YellowphantGrey · 16/09/2024 17:59

Are you surprised you've faced hostility when you've come on and tried to control the narrative by insisting it's women too, providing stats to justify this and then tried to stop people feeling angry over a paedophile walking free

People are allowed to be angry, it's not your job to stop this or minimise his crime

You are mistaken. I have not provided any stats. Nor have I tried to control the narrative, as if you are going to accuse me of that, it will need to apply to every other person who has offered any sort of opinion.

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 16/09/2024 18:04

WinterMorn · 16/09/2024 18:01

The prison service is in a huge mess thanks to successive governments and despite the many dedicated members of staff, some of whom are on this thread, there is an issue with contraband, mobile phones and so forth. Some of this inevitably relates to convictions.

Dedicated members of staff like the prison guards filming themselves having sex with the inmates? That takes dedication to a whole new level.

WinterMorn · 16/09/2024 18:07

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 16/09/2024 18:04

Dedicated members of staff like the prison guards filming themselves having sex with the inmates? That takes dedication to a whole new level.

Come on now. That’s totally unfair to make a generalisation like that.

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 16/09/2024 18:07

Is it though?

oakleaffy · 16/09/2024 18:07

The judgement let down EVERY SINGLE child who has been sexually abused.

It's quite frankly disgraceful.

WinterMorn · 16/09/2024 18:09

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 16/09/2024 18:07

Is it though?

Yes. But bear in mind that my opinions don’t seem to be universally popular on here!

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 16/09/2024 18:09

Well, go figure. I wonder why that is?

RainbowZebraWarrior · 16/09/2024 18:09

WinterMorn · 16/09/2024 18:04

You are mistaken. I have not provided any stats. Nor have I tried to control the narrative, as if you are going to accuse me of that, it will need to apply to every other person who has offered any sort of opinion.

You have absolutely tried to control the narrative. You have told many of us that we are wrong, that we don't know what we are talking about. Out of 400 posts on this entire thread so far, 50 of them are yours. That feels very much like trying to control the narrative to me.

WinterMorn · 16/09/2024 18:11

RainbowZebraWarrior · 16/09/2024 18:09

You have absolutely tried to control the narrative. You have told many of us that we are wrong, that we don't know what we are talking about. Out of 400 posts on this entire thread so far, 50 of them are yours. That feels very much like trying to control the narrative to me.

The fact you need to count my posts says more about your character than mine. Where have I said to anyone that they don’t know what they are talking about?

oakleaffy · 16/09/2024 18:11

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 16/09/2024 17:29

YANBU.
Suspended sentence!! I might have damn known.

It made me wonder if Edwards was a Freemason.

There was an Ex Cop who looked after Andrew {'royal'} and he said Freemasonry was rife - Probably lesser sentences for a 'Brother'.

Very disappointing.

AGirlInACountrySong · 16/09/2024 18:11

@SerenityNowInsanityLater

Dedicated members of staff like the prison guards filming themselves having sex with the inmates? That takes dedication to a whole new level.

No the officer filming herself wouldn't do that role

It's an OSG job. Completely different

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 16/09/2024 18:13

Efacsen · 16/09/2024 16:44

I really don't understand why people minimise the harm done by the recent riots - not just burning things down, attacking mosques/hotels etc etc but the absolute terror experienced by people living in those towns - IDK 10s or 100s thousands of people too frightened to leave their homes/use public transport particularly women of colour

Edited

Thank you - agreed

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 16/09/2024 18:13

AGirlInACountrySong · 16/09/2024 18:11

@SerenityNowInsanityLater

Dedicated members of staff like the prison guards filming themselves having sex with the inmates? That takes dedication to a whole new level.

No the officer filming herself wouldn't do that role

It's an OSG job. Completely different

Oh ok! Well, it’s good to know about the literal inner workings of our robust prison system! 😳

SerafinasGoose · 16/09/2024 18:14

And also, that means enabling paedophiles to come forward without shame for treatment/help. I'm not referring to people who are doing harm - I'm talking about (probably young) men who realise they have unhealthy attraction to children. BEFORE they access images of children, BEFORE they touch a child......let's get these people help. There will be some that don't want help and glory in their sick tastes - but there will be some that are disgusted with themselves. Right now, there's no easy way to seek help - there needs to be a pathway that can be offered to men to prevent them continuing, to prevent them doing harm to children. People don't like to talk about this because it's dismissed as being a "paedo sympathiser" but nothing can be further from the truth. Prevention is so, so important because only by throwing resources at early prevention together with deterrents and restrictions for offenders, will we actually achieve anything. It's how we protect our children.

Excellent points. FWIW, I've been a victim of child abuse and sexual abuse.

Sometimes this is flagged before harm is done. Many years ago I worked with a MAP (multi-agency protection) initative for the rehabilitation of sexual offenders. Those referred to them for treatment as younger and adolescent boys were the ones for whom treatment was likely to be most effective. This was flagged on a red and amber card system. All the research cited by this organisation showed the odds of rehabilitating an adult, male sex offender were low. It has to be caught at a young age.They worked alongside NOTA, a charity committed to working with professionals for the prevention of sexual abuse. This charity had some amazing academics working within it who had published knowledgeable and fascinating material in the field.

The first notable thing about MAP was its lack of conspicuousness. It was housed in an ordinary house. It might have been a dental surgery or a drugs rehabilitation centre. Had they not been incognito, these people would very likely have been open to vigilantism.

The issue is, as you say, that the pathway is complex and the flags too infrequently acted-upon. The work does go on - it goes on inconpicuously owing to its very nature - but it happens. The title of the organisation suggests that the names are filtering through the familial line through already being in the multi-agency system, local hospitals, schools, social services, lawyers and guardians ad litem, and other child protection charities and organisations. But the numbers we know about have to be minuscule in view of the amount of this behaviour we know goes on unreported.

The good news in response to your post is that this treatment work is ongoing. It does happen.

The bad news, as ever with funding desperately urgent issues such as these, is that it's not happening nearly enough.

southpawsofthenorth · 16/09/2024 18:14

ClaudiaWinklepanda · 16/09/2024 13:24

A suspended sentence doesn't mean anything really, does it? You have to do the unpaid work, go on a register etc and, er, not break the law. Somehow the rest of us manage that last one.

How did suspended sentences come about? They're not a punishment, they seem to basically just be a second chance.

It means that you are given a potential sentence (usually prison time) that will automatically be activated if you break the conditions of your probation.

Everyone knows who this guy is and now everyone knows he a nonce. At the very least his career is over and his reputation in tatters.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/09/2024 18:15

People on this thread are talking about not bothering to imprison for non-violent crimes. And yet, on countless other threads, MN posters are furious about benefit fraud and think people need to be locked up for it. We can't have it all.

Yes, they're probably not the same posters.

RainbowZebraWarrior · 16/09/2024 18:15

WinterMorn · 16/09/2024 18:11

The fact you need to count my posts says more about your character than mine. Where have I said to anyone that they don’t know what they are talking about?

I knew that would be your response. Yes, you seemed to be controlling the narrative, so I thought I'd do a quick count. (I'm Autistic, shoot me)

I cba to engage any more. Plenty of people have voiced the same (otherwise you wouldn't have posted that it was fashionable to pile on you)

I'm done.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/09/2024 18:16

Many years ago I worked with a MAP (multi-agency protection) initative for the rehabilitation of sexual offenders.

You're aware of the other, generally online use of that acronym?

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 16/09/2024 18:17

SerafinasGoose

The really bad news is, it doesn’t work.

WinterMorn · 16/09/2024 18:17

RainbowZebraWarrior · 16/09/2024 18:15

I knew that would be your response. Yes, you seemed to be controlling the narrative, so I thought I'd do a quick count. (I'm Autistic, shoot me)

I cba to engage any more. Plenty of people have voiced the same (otherwise you wouldn't have posted that it was fashionable to pile on you)

I'm done.

And others have voiced their support for me, so it’s swings and roundabouts isn’t it?

Frustrated54 · 16/09/2024 18:18

It is so appalling. So much so, I am having great anxiety reading the news as it just seems to story after story of perverted men. The Internet, if it cannot be properly policed should be closer down.

Weiredeout · 16/09/2024 18:18

Aside from embarrassing the men - most of whom would not be famous its oretty muc h a waste of time investigating and coming to court. Z(aside from going on the regisiter.

looking france has similar percentage in prison.

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 16/09/2024 18:18

WinterMorn · 16/09/2024 18:17

And others have voiced their support for me, so it’s swings and roundabouts isn’t it?

Put your peacock feathers away. You’re coming across as eager now.