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Juice in school

370 replies

Fubar01 · 13/09/2024 08:42

My DD’s teacher is being very combative about her taking juice to school (primary) in a clear drinking bottle. He says it’s against school healthy eating standards, but if she brings it in a non clear bottle it’s fine! She brings a very healthy lunch and has perfect teeth. She is also very sporty . She point blank refuses to drink water. Yet others in her class bring crisps and chocolate and nothing is said .
AIBU to stick with the (new) clear bottle?
i dislike petty rules that have no bearing on her education ! Especially when the rules are not enforced for others !

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Fubar01 · 13/09/2024 09:05

whatwindow · 13/09/2024 08:52

Teacher can’t win! He is appeasing you and bending the rules as you state your child will not drink water. Just send in water for goodness sake

not going to happen , I will not allow my child to go all day without a drink .

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daisychainarainyday · 13/09/2024 09:05

@Fubar01 I don't think the teacher is asking primary school children to be sneaky.
I think if there's a rule about no juice - you need to accept that.
At the end of the day it's your choice but juice is bad for kids. End of.

Sameshitdifferentdayx · 13/09/2024 09:06

2 of my children love water, the other one has a sweeter tooth but still has water in his school bottle and at home as he is very sporty so encourage it more.
There has been times when he will have a slice of fruit or whatever in the water, or had flavoured water in his bottle, but rarely.
Most schools do promote only water to be in school bottles.
So either change the bottle, or encourage water. 🤷‍♀️

Fubar01 · 13/09/2024 09:06

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fashionqueen0123 · 13/09/2024 09:06

Fubar01 · 13/09/2024 09:03

So you actually think that it’s okay for teachers to enforce rules for some and not others ?

Why don’t you enforce it for your child then? Instead of leaving it to the teacher, give your child a clear bottle of water. They’ll drink it eventually.

Sunshineclouds11 · 13/09/2024 09:06

What's the issue?

LameBorzoi · 13/09/2024 09:07

Fubar01 · 13/09/2024 09:05

not going to happen , I will not allow my child to go all day without a drink .

Water is a drink. If she is not ND, she will drink it.

Sadmamatoday · 13/09/2024 09:07

BTW the perfect teeth probably won't last if she's sipping on juice all day

Fubar01 · 13/09/2024 09:10

LameBorzoi · 13/09/2024 08:57

A clear bottle is unfair on the other kids. It's like letting her eat haribo at her desk, and not letting any of the others have any

That’s the problem though ! Other kids on her class bring chocolate, crisps and sweets and the teacher doesn’t say a thing!

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HalfaCider · 13/09/2024 09:11

OP why have you posted!! You are not listening to a word anyone is saying. NO the teacher is not teaching your child to be sneaky and NO the teacher is not being petty. A PP posted the government guidance that schools have to follow. We are trying to create a society of healthier eaters and drinkers and that starts in childhood. The fact is water and milk are healthy and to be encouraged. Saying, 'oh but the staff eat and drink crap' is just stupid because that is the whole point. We are trying to change things, so starting from childhood, people make healthier choices which continue into adulthood. You have told the teacher your DC won't drink water. He doesn't want to see your DC dehydrated so has suggested a compromise of bring the juice, but don't flaunt it to the whole class. It isn't being sneaky, it's being considerate of everyone in his duty of care. He is allowing the juice against school policy. He is trying to work with you and you're just being an arse in return. You have a long school journey ahead of you.

LameBorzoi · 13/09/2024 09:12

Fubar01 · 13/09/2024 09:10

That’s the problem though ! Other kids on her class bring chocolate, crisps and sweets and the teacher doesn’t say a thing!

Are they really sitting at desks all day muching on them? I very much doubt it. Sounds like a supervision nightmare.

Fubar01 · 13/09/2024 09:12

MrsMitford3 · 13/09/2024 08:57

@Fubar01

This is not a hill I would die on.

You have a choice here-IMHO the teacher being helpful-

get a different bottle
give your DD water
Move schools

You seem to want to escalate this into more than it is.
Don't bring drama-otherwise it will be no juice!!

How is replying escalating things? I’m genuinely interested. Isn’t this support be a discussion group.

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GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 13/09/2024 09:14

Do you mean actual juice, or squash? Only asking because so many people say juice when they mean squash.

Fubar01 · 13/09/2024 09:15

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 13/09/2024 09:14

Do you mean actual juice, or squash? Only asking because so many people say juice when they mean squash.

Sorry yes very weak squash . Not fruit juice . We call anything here that isn’t alcoholic juice 😂

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PrincessPeache · 13/09/2024 09:15

Fubar01 · 13/09/2024 08:59

It’s not about the juice it’s about the hypocrisy of saying you can’t have juice it’s against school standards. But if you put it on a non clear bottle it’s fine! What is that teaching our children?

So you’d rather the teacher say “sorry, only water is allowed”? Even though you’re adamant your child won’t drink it?

The poor teacher can’t win! You’ve said your child will only drink juice so the teacher is making an allowance but asking for it to not be in a clear bottle as it will open up the floodgates for every child wanting juice even though water is far healthier and easier.

Fubar01 · 13/09/2024 09:17

PrincessPeache · 13/09/2024 09:15

So you’d rather the teacher say “sorry, only water is allowed”? Even though you’re adamant your child won’t drink it?

The poor teacher can’t win! You’ve said your child will only drink juice so the teacher is making an allowance but asking for it to not be in a clear bottle as it will open up the floodgates for every child wanting juice even though water is far healthier and easier.

Drinking any kind of liquid as opposed to not is healthier

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Storytimetime · 13/09/2024 09:17

The rule is no juice. Some children simply don’t drink water and they have offered you a solution. I think they’ve been pragmatic and fair.

(Also - flavoured water works 😉)

Fubar01 · 13/09/2024 09:18

PassMeTheCookies · 13/09/2024 08:59

I just put flavoured water in my son's bottle.

He does drink water, but likes it fresh out of the fridge, so he was coming home with a warm water bottle that was still full. We've switched to flavoured water and he drinks the full thing every day.

That’s a good idea ! Thank you for being helpful 😊

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Candaceowens · 13/09/2024 09:19

You just want a row don't you.

DiamondGoldandSilver · 13/09/2024 09:20

Drinking juice all day is really bad for her teeth. It’s an important lesson for children to be taught to follow rules at school. I would absolutely get a coloured bottle, then ease your daughter away from juice. You will be doing her teeth a big favour which is massively important.

Catza · 13/09/2024 09:20

daisychainarainyday · 13/09/2024 08:55

@Sadmamatoday my point exactly.

Get her to drink water !

Why do you need to get anyone to drink water. Would you, as adult, tolerate it if someone "got you" to eat or drink something you didn't like?
Since when did juice become a problem? Certainly wasn't an issue when I was growing up and I am not obese and not shooting heroin or stuffing my face with crisps.
It might surprise you but H2O molecules are identical no matter where they come from and, in fact, short-term hydration studies show that clear water has worse hydrating properties than OJ. Outside of consideration for overall calorie consumptions, there is nothing remotely "bad" about drinking juice in moderation.

LameBorzoi · 13/09/2024 09:20

Fubar01 · 13/09/2024 09:17

Drinking any kind of liquid as opposed to not is healthier

If she isn't plied with juice, she will learn to drink water. Also, honestly, the way that mumsnet carries on - it's the UK, she will be fine.

12345mummy · 13/09/2024 09:21

OP - just buy the dark water bottle and get on with your life. We’ve done it since reception and no one mentions it

bridgetreilly · 13/09/2024 09:21

Teach your child that they have to do what the teacher says. Teach your child that we all have to obey rules that seem silly sometimes. Teach your child how not to make a ridiculous fuss about nothing.

YABVVVVVU

LameBorzoi · 13/09/2024 09:21

Catza · 13/09/2024 09:20

Why do you need to get anyone to drink water. Would you, as adult, tolerate it if someone "got you" to eat or drink something you didn't like?
Since when did juice become a problem? Certainly wasn't an issue when I was growing up and I am not obese and not shooting heroin or stuffing my face with crisps.
It might surprise you but H2O molecules are identical no matter where they come from and, in fact, short-term hydration studies show that clear water has worse hydrating properties than OJ. Outside of consideration for overall calorie consumptions, there is nothing remotely "bad" about drinking juice in moderation.

Nothing but juice is not "juice in moderation".