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Children wearing tails?

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ShepherdMoons · 12/09/2024 12:44

Dd's friend at drama club has recently started wearing a tail.She sometimes wears ears.It looks quite cute but I also find it a bit odd (they are 11).Dd hasn't asked to wear a tail (yet) but wondering if this might be her next question.I appreciate there's a bit of a trend for this at the moment and seems relatively harmless but I do find it odd.AIBU?

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oakleaffy · 12/09/2024 14:15

EngineEngineNumber9 · 12/09/2024 13:52

Opened this thread thinking it would be about Eton uniforms 🤦‍♀️

I did, too.......

Sandandsea123 · 12/09/2024 14:15

It’s the “furries” absolute bullshit. Some kids at my daughter’s school do this too and are permitted to carry on - they apparently identify as a cat / dog. Insanity that grown ups are allowing this to carry on!

Sunnyperiods · 12/09/2024 14:16

As I understand it, it’s a past life thing. There are websites where you can work out what animal you were. Oddly it’s always wolves, panthers etc rather than, say, hamsters. And yes, just another fashion thing that kids do to shock their parents. I don’t think tails etc should be allowed in school though.

Pookerrod · 12/09/2024 14:16

dykedrama · 12/09/2024 14:09

I think we perhaps need to separate out the concepts of "identification" in the modern social sense and the idea that children are actually believing they're cats, dogs, or dragons. I'm sure almost all of these kids, if asked to explain, understand that they are human beings who identify with animals rather than believing themselves to be animals, physically. Perhaps they identify with the stereotypical characteristics of certain animals, or think life would be easier as an animal, or even feel a sense of kinship with some animals- all common enough feelings expressed in a more contemporary, and admittedly often confusing, way.

Not that I wouldn't be surprised if a good amount of them would claim to be literal cats just to wind up their parents and teachers, of course. There may well be an element of that involved, too.

I think it’s a natural follow on from gender identity though. We are now raising our children to accept that whilst some people may have been born male/female they are in fact the opposite sex or neither sex and they are legally able to identify as whatever they want.

It’s therefore unsurprising that some kids who really connect with animals then go on to think that it must mean that despite being born a human, they are in fact a cat.

Getitwright · 12/09/2024 14:16

whereaw · 12/09/2024 14:14

I just showed this thread to my cat and she is fuming.

Love it. Parents need to get a grip otherwise the little darlings will be scent marking the curtains next.🤣

SoTired12 · 12/09/2024 14:16

DiscoBeat · 12/09/2024 14:12

Oh I've just read the other comments and seen that some children actually think they are cats and wear them to school!! I've never heard of this. I thought this was just a fancy dress thing! Why don't the schools just send them home for not wearing the correct uniform??

There was a group of girls in my son's primary school (YR6) who used to bark/miaow/howl at eachother every day then turn up wearing tails and cat ears on non uniform days. It was always so strange to witness.

JaneJeffer · 12/09/2024 14:18

grumpypedestrian · 12/09/2024 14:05

@angellinaballerina7 its not about normalising it, it’s allowing children to express and be themselves. Or should everyone conform and be the same?

Would you like your gp to identify as a cat?

ALovelyCupOfNameChange · 12/09/2024 14:18

its a thing at my children's secondary school. They go round on all fours.
There’s a few at the local primary, teachers insist on tails on desks during lessons. But break times they can have them back.

it is different to goths, emos etc. they still exist. The harm isn’t from the dressing up, it’s the fetishisation of it by adults, it’s the online community and the fact they can’t just have fun as cats it’s encouraged to “identify as a cat” and railroaded into that life time decision to become one

RainbowWife · 12/09/2024 14:19

We had a cat in the last school I worked at, he had ASD and would miaow etc when spoken to. He often came in with cats ears and once a tail, but I always confiscated them- same as any other non uniform item.

Pre teen with a tail saying they're a furry- go right ahead, as long as their internet is being carefully watched.

Children/teens identifying as Therians- absolutely not ok. We are humans, end of. This isn't the gender debate- it's a different species!

OhmygodDont · 12/09/2024 14:22

Problem is the children of schools and parents try to ban it are using the trans identity thing as their argument.

If Johnny can be jenny even though his scientifically cannot be jenny at all biologically. Why can I not be a cat or a dog or a bloody narwhal because neither are possible genetically.

The doors where left wide open.

whereaw · 12/09/2024 14:23

I suppose, in their defence, at least cats exist. Unlike gender.

FishPaintingsAtTheHarbour · 12/09/2024 14:23

My dog reckons fake furries are weirdos 🐾

MrsOvertonsWindow · 12/09/2024 14:23

The fact there are parents of secondary aged children dressing up as cats on this thread is a real worry.
Make believe is for dress up is for primary children - horses, dinosaurs, helicopters etc. Older children should not be identifying as animals while in school and it defies belief that any schools - especially secondary schools - allow this.

Gymnopedie · 12/09/2024 14:24

There's a big difference between a child dressing up and pretending to be a cat but who comes in for dinner as a human, and a child who identifies as a cat, acts like one and expects to be treated as one (routinely, not a one-off because the kid's still playing).

This whole thing of being able to choose your identity and then expect others to completely go along with your fiction has gone too far.

(And yes I have the TRAs in my sights too.)

OhmygodDont · 12/09/2024 14:24

FishPaintingsAtTheHarbour · 12/09/2024 14:23

My dog reckons fake furries are weirdos 🐾

Poor pupper imagine getting your bum sniffed by a fake dog 🐶

AngelinaFibres · 12/09/2024 14:24

Sartre · 12/09/2024 12:54

Furry bollocks. Teachers actually have to have furry training now if you can believe it. There are kids literally crawling around meowing rather than talking because they identify as a cat. Wish I was kidding.

My son is 30 and manages a team at work. One of that team identifies as a bat. She has a little,dark room to do her work in. She's very autistic but good at her job so she's in a cupboard and happy to be absent from social interactions that she doesn't want. Her partner has built her a hanging frame so she can be upside down sometimes. Son thinks it's " absolute twattery" but she is good at coding and surpasses all her targets.The autism and the furry stuff are entirely intertwined.

lemmein · 12/09/2024 14:26

Sunnyperiods · 12/09/2024 14:16

As I understand it, it’s a past life thing. There are websites where you can work out what animal you were. Oddly it’s always wolves, panthers etc rather than, say, hamsters. And yes, just another fashion thing that kids do to shock their parents. I don’t think tails etc should be allowed in school though.

I don’t think tails etc should be allowed in school though.

That sentence just sums up how batshit the world is at the minute Grin

FishPaintingsAtTheHarbour · 12/09/2024 14:26

AngelinaFibres · 12/09/2024 14:24

My son is 30 and manages a team at work. One of that team identifies as a bat. She has a little,dark room to do her work in. She's very autistic but good at her job so she's in a cupboard and happy to be absent from social interactions that she doesn't want. Her partner has built her a hanging frame so she can be upside down sometimes. Son thinks it's " absolute twattery" but she is good at coding and surpasses all her targets.The autism and the furry stuff are entirely intertwined.

To be fair, this actually sound cool. As long as it's not a vampire bat, that could be tricky in the office. Do some people identify as planets? That would be cool too. Cats and wolves are totally lame though.

AngelinaFibres · 12/09/2024 14:27

OhmygodDont · 12/09/2024 14:22

Problem is the children of schools and parents try to ban it are using the trans identity thing as their argument.

If Johnny can be jenny even though his scientifically cannot be jenny at all biologically. Why can I not be a cat or a dog or a bloody narwhal because neither are possible genetically.

The doors where left wide open.

A private boarding school recently sent out a letter to parents saying that children who identified as cats woukd not be provided with litter trays or treated any differently from other chdren.

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Newbutoldfather · 12/09/2024 14:28

I have only ever seen this on this site but I think it is ridiculous and definitely shouldn’t be allowed at school, or even at home except for short periods where everyone is in on the game. How schools accept this is just beyond me? The heads need to grow up and remember they are there to lead the children, not be one of them.

Adults should only play along with make believe up to a point. If it is just a game, the fancy dress can be put back in the toy box ahead of dinner, and definitely shouldn’t go to school or a friend’s house unless the friend also wants to play the same game.

I do think adults pandering to a child being an animal is unhealthy and, as others say, it is too close to an adult sexual fetish to feel comfortable.

PinotPony · 12/09/2024 14:30

What the fuck are Theriens? www.mumsnet.com/Talk/preteens/5126399-what-the-fuck-are-theriens

You might want to have a read of this...

Nothing wrong with kids dressing up but this furry/ therien bollocks is rapidly becoming akin to gender identity...

DiscoBeat · 12/09/2024 14:45

AngelinaFibres · 12/09/2024 14:24

My son is 30 and manages a team at work. One of that team identifies as a bat. She has a little,dark room to do her work in. She's very autistic but good at her job so she's in a cupboard and happy to be absent from social interactions that she doesn't want. Her partner has built her a hanging frame so she can be upside down sometimes. Son thinks it's " absolute twattery" but she is good at coding and surpasses all her targets.The autism and the furry stuff are entirely intertwined.

Literally batshit.

DiscoBeat · 12/09/2024 14:50

SoTired12 · 12/09/2024 14:16

There was a group of girls in my son's primary school (YR6) who used to bark/miaow/howl at eachother every day then turn up wearing tails and cat ears on non uniform days. It was always so strange to witness.

That's bonkers. I had no idea!

Mmmnotsure · 12/09/2024 14:58

oakleaffy · 12/09/2024 14:15

I did, too.......

I was on wedding outfits...