Pregnant dog

[leighks123]

AIBU? So my partner came home last night and told me he thinks the dog is pregnant (by another dog from his work that I thought was neutered) I was absolutely livid and told him I am not having a litter of puppies at home because he is at work all day and I will be the one looking after them. We had a massive row over it and I get told I'm selfish.

So the reasons I don't want to are, she's a big dog and likely to have a big litter, I have a 6 month old baby and am pregnant, I've just spent the last 3 years overcoming psychosis and getting my mental health back on track and I feel this would be a massive trigger for me.

He's saying I wouldn't have to do anything as the mum would but I just don't think that's true. Please tell me if I'm in the wrong? It's like he's done it on purpose

Can I get in trouble if he reports me for doing so?

@Csdrassticcallychanginngnnammes thank you 💕

You could use the XL defence and say you thought he had bred illegally "accidentally", as per his cover story and you were trying to make sure that a) the dog's welfare was protected by not forcing her to have huge puppies and b) you were complying with the legislation.

But how do you think he would react if he did this? I wouldn't advise you to do anything that made you unsafe.

But to answer your question on being prosecuted, I have no idea and I wouldn't risk it if you had any doubts. He has caused you enough problems.

Not read whole thread, sorry if this post is not relevant. If your ex has problems rehoming (not sure if he is hoping to do this for profit), I know a bunch of 20 something professionals, all high earners in London who are looking for rescues. They would want for nothing.

My sister and BIL for example are wonderful with dogs, very active but have been denied by certain rescue centres as their prospective dog would occasionally have to be put in puppy day care when they are not able to wfh.

These dogs are going to be enormous. I hardly think London will be an appropriate environment for them.

You could have her spayed. Speaking from experience, your husband will need to take 3 weeks off work to look after her adequately.
terrible he has put you in this situation, completely understandable why you would leave the relationship.

OP I feel worried for you - a baby and pregnant while you've recently struggled through MH difficulties and with a partner who is gaslighting you. I feel like this situation is bigger than the dog problem, huge as that might be.

I appreciate that. My suggestion is hopefully an absolute last resort. I’m an animal lover and would hate for any harm to come to the puppies should they be born.

But my German Shepherd often visits my sister in her 750 sq ft London flat and does very well. As long as he has had a 45 minute walk in the morning he will sleep most of the day. With adequate training and exercise many breeds do fine in flats. Of course there are some that are absolutely not suited to flat living.

But like I said my suggestion is hopefully not needed.

Edit: ignore me for some reason I thought the puppies would be lab/rotties

fucking hell
I've had dogs for over 40yrs, my DC grew up around dogs.
Having a CC around your kids is irresponsible, no matter how "nice" she appears to be - crossing her with a DdeB - speechless!🤬

Thank-you 👏

I'd sooner they be put down than be inflicted upon other Londoners. But hopefully they will be aborted, and the dog spayed and it won't come to that.

That is really good news, so you can at least say to him that he needs to move out until the puppies have been and gone and been sold.

That means you have time to decide what you want to do with him long term.

So sorry that you are being faced with this. It is crushing when something happens that reveals another side to the person you love.
x x

I really wouldn’t take her to the vets against the owners words. This isn’t a sick or poorly dog needing urgent treatment it’s a possible pregnant Bitch.

Dogs in the eyes of the law are an owned item just like a fridge or tv when it comes to ownership so I would imagine legally he very well could do something about someone abort spaying his bitch. Possibly even sue for losses on lack of pups, if she was far enough along for the vets to count foetuses even if not for his dog now not being breedable.

Alizin can be administered up to 45 days post mating, it's 2 injections 24 hours apart. Spay abort is not something that's as commonly done in the UK as elsewhere, like the US. I've worked with colleagues who won't do it at all. I have done it, and would again, but it depends on the timing and circumstances of each case as presented to me. In any case your partner is extremely irresponsible, raising a litter of puppies is extremely time consuming and expensive if done properly (obviously that's a significant 'if'). Demand for puppies has dropped hugely across the board, I know several very good breeders of good quality pedigree dogs of 'popular' breeds (Labs, Working Cockers, Pomeranians) who have had waiting list places pull out and puppies still unsold at 8-10 weeks+. All rescues around here are regularly having part or entire litters dumped on them because they haven't sold. Trying to find good, responsible homes for potentially 10+ crossbred molosser type puppies is going to be a difficult if not impossible task.

My brother had his female pit bull x great Dane giant and lovely dog when his first child was born. Family was worried, mainly due to her size.
On his own he started muzzling her in the house before baby was born. Kept her muzzled in house for a long time.
He was aware that he wouldn’t know dogs emotional response to a baby.

On another note, I was badly bitten (blood drawn & massive swollen bruise) by a post-partum Portuguese water dog. At friends house she stalked me and lunged at my leg. Champion at the kennel club. She had a new litter of puppies and was “protective”. I learned that she had also bitten another person post partum. (Her pups were very valuable. )

OP … please be aware of MH issues you might be at risk for at peri-menopause. Please be sure your are aware the psychosis can return and be worse. Please look after yourself.

OP....why are you trying to justify yourself?????.......he's the one that wants a litter.....make him deal with them! Suggest he takes leave...... I'd be fuming!!!! Yanbu

He thinks she is pregnant but theres been no noticable signs of a season?

Whilst silent seasons do occur, they'd be pretty unusual in a 4 year old bitch.
Normally, a mature bitch in season will have lady parts like a baboons, drip blood everywhere, be randy as hell and offering herself to anything on legs (certainly during the mid point of the season)...

If she has had a silent season, how the hell has he determined when she's receptive... unless he's taken her to one of those dodgy dog repro clinics of course...

Breeding a large breed bitch at the age of 4 for the first time is increasing the risks and using a broader headed heavy breed over a taller (comparatively) narrower breed further increases those risks.

I'd tell him I very much hope he has around 5K going spare in case she needs an emergency cesarean... and he'd best find out which vets will do that and get in touch with them closer to whelping to ensure he can take her there at the drop of a hat, probably in the middle of the night. Not all vets will do it!

Then of course as others have pointed out, due to our stupid laws that mean two legitmate breeds can produce an illegal puppy... theres the risk the puppies could be considered to be XL Bully type as they mature. I don't know if Dog Legislation Officers are waiting until pups hit around 9 months to 'type' them or not, I suspect not (they were supposed to with potential pit bull types, not all did).

You are better off well out of it @leighks123 this has the potential to be horribly expensive, heart breaking and potentially illegal.

It is too late now, as you've brought it up and he's refused, but I'd have taken her to the vets behind his back and got the problem resolved, and then presented it as a 'fait accompli'. Probably ending the relationship too but that looks like thats where things are heading anyway.

She’s a banned breed and he wants to sell her puppies.

This man is a big walking red flag.

Absolutely you cannot be put through this! You've enough on your plate & having a pregnant dog really isn't just a walk in the park, especially in the last stages of pregnancy & with the puppies - we took night shifts in turns to sit with mum & pups for weeks cos she got mastitis, refused to eat & was a nipple short.

A loving dog owner will sit with & care for the mum & pups 24hrs a day if needs be. You can't do that & it doesn't sound like your partner would do that!

I'm furious on your behalf.

The other thing is that a mum dog can get very snappy & agressive around her puppies. Ours tried to bite the vet when she went near the puppies - she had to be muzzled which was WILDLY out of character.

It has to be doggy abortion or ltb for me. And I never say that

@OrwellianTimes Cane Corso not a banned breed... how many times do people have to go through this?

The legislation determines if a dog is of an illegal type (pitbull or xl bully) by a set of measurements, features and appearance.
Much is down to personal opinion and is subjective.

A nicely bred FCI reg Cane Corso is unlikely to be found to be an illegal type. This is because the FCI registration means the dogs pedigree is verifiable, the dog can be traced back through its ancestors. (our uk KC don't recognise the Cane Corso, not because it isn't a pedigree breed, but because there aren't enough in the UK and not enough requests to add it to the import register yet).

Our government (well the last lot) made it quite clear that dogs with verifiable genuine paperwork proving they are a particular breed, won't be considered 'type' and therefore won't be illegal.

A back yard bred un-registered or registered with one of the spurious 'cash for a certificate' registration organisations (anyone can set up a registration club!!) might well be considered 'type', anyone can say their dog is xyz breed.

It's hard work looking after a litter. There is the mess to clear up, you have to clean the pups as they walk in the mess, you have to change & wash bedding, feed the pups when weaned (and wash them after) - it's continuous. You can't do all that with a baby to look after as well!

The rescues are full of large, crossbreed dogs. As you say, it's likely he will not be a le to give the pups away, much less sell them.

I am concerned that as costs rack up to get these puppies to maturation and they don’t sell, the op will be pressured to shoulder some of these costs. He really hasn’t thought any of this through.