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To think those OAPs that have just lost their WFA should commit a crime? get released early into a budget heated hotel

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WhatShallIdo11 · 11/09/2024 17:30

i voted labour - very sorry now - I can’t get over that some OAPs will really suffer this winter whilst we are releasing prisoners, some of whom will be put up in hotels at the state payers expense

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PointsSouth · 11/09/2024 17:32

The thinking here is so mixed up that it’s not worth unravelling.

Comedycook · 11/09/2024 17:33

You are conflating two separate issues. Your post is ridiculous.

DaniMontyRae · 11/09/2024 17:33

We must know different pensioners. The ones I know are bringing in the equivalent of a c.40k salary with no mortgage, childcare or commuting costs. They are better off than most of the working people I know. Means testing ( via penaion credit) is a much better approach

TealTraybake · 11/09/2024 17:35

And don’t forget the train drivers. They’ll be able to afford all manner of lovely things to keep them warm in winter. All of our taxes paying for that too.

And the politicians - they get all of their energy bills paid for, by tax payers. Thousands of pounds apparently (in the paper today). Rachel Reeves claims a fortune.

The Labour Party are a horrible horrible hypocritical lying piece of work.

Fupoffyagrasshole · 11/09/2024 17:36

My parents are wealthy pensioners as are loads of their friends - some on half pay for the rest of their lives mortgage free and no childcare costs ! They don’t need a winter fuel allowance

the poorer ones will still get it

Nap1983 · 11/09/2024 17:36

The WFA needs to be means tested. My Mother is 68, gets her OAP but also still works in a very well paid job (part time now) and has property… she does bot require or want help with WFA. It should be for people who need it, elderly or not.

TealTraybake · 11/09/2024 17:37

DaniMontyRae · 11/09/2024 17:33

We must know different pensioners. The ones I know are bringing in the equivalent of a c.40k salary with no mortgage, childcare or commuting costs. They are better off than most of the working people I know. Means testing ( via penaion credit) is a much better approach

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The price of food has gone up, energy bills have gone up. Many pensioners are on the very threshold of the ‘means test’ - they need the extra cash. Cutting out everyone means they’re cutting out millions who need it. But being smart was never the Labour Party way.

SaffronsMadAboutMe · 11/09/2024 17:39

Total waste of cyber ink OP.

Beyond ridiculous.

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yorktown · 11/09/2024 17:45

I feel for you if you are just above the cut off as it is tough for those people.

What would you have preferred Labour to do to get the money they need?

TealTraybake · 11/09/2024 17:47

Bless the troll/s. At least they give us someone to feel sorry for. Imagine being so sad all you’ve got to do for life is write nasty things on the internet.

StormingNorman · 11/09/2024 17:48

My ILs will be crying into their champagne on the annual Cunard cruise this winter. They have already tried complaining about losing the fuel allowance but hubby shut them down pretty quickly.

TealTraybake · 11/09/2024 17:49

yorktown · 11/09/2024 17:45

I feel for you if you are just above the cut off as it is tough for those people.

What would you have preferred Labour to do to get the money they need?

Cancel their own wfa / claims for tax payers money.

Not pay train drivers more.

Free all low risk prisoners (mostly females).

Its not rocket science.

BIossomtoes · 11/09/2024 17:51

TealTraybake · 11/09/2024 17:49

Cancel their own wfa / claims for tax payers money.

Not pay train drivers more.

Free all low risk prisoners (mostly females).

Its not rocket science.

It’s not sense either. That post is gibberish.

MyQuirkyDreamer · 11/09/2024 17:51

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Frostycottagegarden · 11/09/2024 17:52

Assume the tories are paying staff to write these daily posts right now.

Most pensioners I know are bloody loaded. Really good pensions mortgage free properties, several holidays a year. The WFA is basically a meal and theatre trip out for them.

stripybobblehat · 11/09/2024 17:52

These hotel rooms aren't going to be the fancy ones they'll be the ones in the hotels no one wants to stay in.

BIossomtoes · 11/09/2024 17:53

Frostycottagegarden · 11/09/2024 17:52

Assume the tories are paying staff to write these daily posts right now.

Most pensioners I know are bloody loaded. Really good pensions mortgage free properties, several holidays a year. The WFA is basically a meal and theatre trip out for them.

Doubt it. What remains of the Tory party is apparently broke.

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 11/09/2024 17:53

Why should we (us, taxpayers) pay a blanket untested benefit to ALL people over a certain age ?

If we accept that giveaway, then why can’t we accept free school meals for ALL children ?

TealTraybake · 11/09/2024 17:57

BIossomtoes · 11/09/2024 17:51

It’s not sense either. That post is gibberish.

What?

JackGrealishsAliceBand · 11/09/2024 17:59

Dad left the NHS in a final salary pension at 55 he's had 70k a year for 30 years. Pil have just gone on a 6week cruise that costs 45k.

Those that do need it will still get it.

TealTraybake · 11/09/2024 17:59

‘Labour, which analysed figures from Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) records, has vowed to be the party for pensioners’…

over 1million pensioners live in poverty.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/apr/16/nearly-1m-uk-pensioners-deprivation-official-figures

Labour Party make me feel sick

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