To think Veganism has eclipsed Vegetarian?

[SnufkinsSpiritAnimal]

With all respect to actual vegans.

I googled how to stay healthy when going vegetarian, as I am considering the switch. My attached image shows the first bunch of replies.
I have noticed this with veggie recipes, all presume that I want it to be vegan.
If I search for food on supermarket sites I often get mostly vegan results.

This is great for vegans but not for me, as the addition of dairy products in my own diet would make for some very different foods and recipes.
It is as if search engines simply rearrange my words into vegan.

All of the health advice presumes I am vegan so only chatters on about B vitamins that I need to replace as I give up dairy
Surely it isn't just me who is noticing this.
Are there any decent vegetarian sources of info now?

I agree. Because every vegan dish is technically vegetarian many restaurants and pubs are lazy when it comes to catering for non-meat eaters.

@SnufkinsSpiritAnimal but surely my screenshot proves that it is in fact quite easy to Google search vegetarianism? It's so easy to find out so much on the subject, I don't understand. It took me 2 seconds.

Think vegan is less popular than it was. As a code checker - going through foods and, frequently reduce vegan foods such as burgers, pastry (though that is also gluten free), ready meals. See these vegan products in reduced sections in other supermarkets as well.

Be careful with 'plant based'. It can contain dairy.

There is an Italian restaurant where I live and they will accommodate vegetarians, vegans and GF as options for using of vegan cheese and GF pizza bases and pasta.

You can order a meat pizza with vegan cheese for example as could be lactose intolerant

I think there was a big swing towards veganism for trendy reasons in recent years and loads of companies jumped on the bandwagon with processed crap.
Now the trend has died down and the products aren't selling (probably because most long standing vegans don't really eat a lot of processed foods!).

Not sure what the OPs problem is though. I just Googled vegetarianism and that was all that came up....no mention of vegans.
As to why it's more commonly mentioned in restaurants, food labels, etc it's probably because it's harder to tell if things are vegan as they seem to put milk powder in everything!

Precisely.

Well for me where I might eat vegetarian I will now eat meat .. so you are driving people in the opposite direction too

That's one example, from a huge worldwide company which probably has to have such ridiculous things in place to prevent lawsuits. I'm struggling to think of anywhere else that would refuse to add dairy cheese to a vegan burger.

Most places I got to eat at, over half of the non-meat options are vegetarian with no option of making them vegan, the rest are vegan.

Honestly, surely having more non-meat options is better for vegetarians, and more importantly, for the animals.

Yes, I long for the days of a vegetarian lasagne and garlic bread in pubs. That sounds sarcastic but it's not lol. I also really miss vegetable or bean burgers, now it's just beyond meat crap.

Are you a vegan, vegetarian or meat eater?

Yep. same for me. I was vegetarian for 20 years and then started having chicken occasionally, but would still opt for vegetarian over chicken when eating out.
I know find myself ordering chicken dishes more regularly as vegetarian dishes are becoming vegan and are full of processed crap.
We regularly frequent a pub that did a gorgeous vegetarian risotto that has now become vegan and is horrible.
I so rarely eat chicken at home I would happily go back to being a vegetarian but with so few tasty vegetarian options available now I’m eating more chicken that I really want to.

I eat vegan probably twice a week at home, made with fresh vegetables, pulses, I despise fake meat and dairy products, and would never order anything made with meat or dairy substitutes.

Don’t start on Veganuary. We get more vegan stuff in and more stuff is reduced.

If people want to try a different diet then they should not need a campaign to do it.

I don’t do Veganuary or Dry January as it’s my birthday then.

I do have meat free days - not planned but it’s just fancy something.

It's not though. You're completely deluding yourself that it is.

Just google the nutrient + sources + absorption + abstract and you'll see lots of peer reviewed data.

Oh and you can also look at the ingredient list for vegan cheese/fish fingers/etc

What adaptations do you need? Vegan recipes mostly use alternative butters and egg replacers. Just swap the egg replacer for egg, non dairy milk for dairy or buy a vegetarian cookbook. I always adapt meat and traditional baking recipes to be vegan, it's very easy now.

Why are you fine with adapting meat recipes to be veggie but cross about adapting vegan ones to be veggie? Both are adaptations.

Oh, I see. This is a thinly disguised vegan bashing thread. Nice.

OP has started a vegan bashing thread. See how op cleverly cropped her image to omit that the search was actually for vegan but is pretending it ws for vegetarian. Clever 👏

I typed exactly the same into Google and only got vegetarian results. Anyway there aren't many health concerns with going veggie, the main one would probably be certain vitamins.and minerals.

OP, why are you getting so arsey in your replies? You literally posted a question on AIBU and encouraged replies, they won't all match your opinion.

Personally, I'm all in favour of more vegan choices, it caters for omnis, pescis, veggies, vegans and those with dairy and egg allergies. Obviously, a HUGE demographic.

I went veggie in 1992 and I remember how hard it was to get food from supermarkets and restaurants were even worse.

Seven years ago, I had my eyes opened (by vegans) into the horrors of the dairy and egg industry and I became vegan.

I'm incredibly grateful that veganism has become more mainstream and I hope it leads to more people reducing their animal consumption.

Completely agree op. It is infuriating.

I've been veggie for 30 years. I went out for a meal the other day and ordered a pizza. It came with vegan cheese, it was the saddest pizza I've ever had, bring back real cheese for veggie 🧀!

Yep, it's so annoying especially when eating out most places. It used to be hard years ago to get many veggie options, but gradullay got to a point where there was usually a really good selection on most menus, but now most places the veggie stuff is now non existent and it's all vegan instead. One of my kids is veggie, and we cook mostly vegetarian as I'm not cooking separate meals, but when we go out as a treat, and we all get to have what we want, I always feel bad for dd, as her options are so limited. It's literally tomato pasta or if she's lucky, pizza. Sometimes she doesn't even get a choice and just has to have the only vegetarian option available, where as 5 years ago there was much more veggie options, that didn't involve a bloody "vegan spiced chickpea burger" that most 10 year olds wouldn't touch with a barge pole.

This frustrates me as a vegan too. I want protein and I don't want a bloody vegan burger!

I would like to see 2-3 options each for veggies and vegans in each section of the menu: starters, mains, sides, desserts.

There are always so many Omni versions they could easily replace a few with veggie and vegan options with protein in.

Not a chance. You eat what you please. And we will too.