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AIBU to believe that the cost of living crisis is a load of nonsense

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MaryWils24 · 31/08/2024 09:36

So I wake up this morning to find that 14 million people are trying for Oasis tickets. A mediocre rock band and a “reunion” tour just to create a retirement fund for two already multi-millionaires.

The question is - where are so many people getting the money from to buy tickets? On one hand people moan about the “cost of living” but can easily find £500 to fund this nonsense.

Madness.

People should stop moaning about the cost of living if they can waste money on things like this. They are either getting too much income from their job/benefits (if they can afford this) to complain about “cost of living” or they should stop moaning about increasing food/fuel prices!

Rant over!

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Simonjt · 31/08/2024 16:30

MaryWils24 · 31/08/2024 15:50

Well at very least they should be doing everything they can to upskill and improve their situation themselves.

How does my friend with an aquired brain injury upskill or improve his situation? In your system he wouldn’t even be allowed to buy clothing.

MaryWils24 · 31/08/2024 16:31

LoggedOutAgain · 31/08/2024 16:26

I had a look.

It’s £55. I am quite partial on occasion to tacky paraphernalia. But this one is a bit ugly for me!

Not bad for a lamp. Everyone’s different style wise I guess! This one wouldn’t be my style either as there is no shade for the bulb so I’d probably end up catching the exposed bulb with my eye and blinking a lot!

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midgetastic · 31/08/2024 16:31

MaryWils24 · 31/08/2024 16:25

If your lamp makes you happy then I’m not here to judge you on it. I guess you’re being more sensible buying a lamp to have light in your home than wasting money on concert tickets, so long as it is of a good quality and lasts then it is a good investment.

Why is a lamp better than a music experience?

I mean I can see why sone people might say they prefer to spend on one than the other

But why is one actually better than the other ?

MaryWils24 · 31/08/2024 16:32

Simonjt · 31/08/2024 16:30

How does my friend with an aquired brain injury upskill or improve his situation? In your system he wouldn’t even be allowed to buy clothing.

Obviously those with genuine and evidenced disabilities would (and do receive) more support for these, and rightly so.

I am talking about those who are in a precarious situation due to their own poor financial choices.

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Cinnamonkie · 31/08/2024 16:33

MaryWils24 · 31/08/2024 16:25

If your lamp makes you happy then I’m not here to judge you on it. I guess you’re being more sensible buying a lamp to have light in your home than wasting money on concert tickets, so long as it is of a good quality and lasts then it is a good investment.

Every post you've made on this thread has been judgy!

MaryWils24 · 31/08/2024 16:34

midgetastic · 31/08/2024 16:31

Why is a lamp better than a music experience?

I mean I can see why sone people might say they prefer to spend on one than the other

But why is one actually better than the other ?

Well, suppose for people with limited means, a lamp is a physical item that serves a useful purpose (providing light) for several years. Attending a one-day concert, whilst being more expensive, offers no long-term utility. For those with limited means, surely they should be prioritising the essentials over luxuries?

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wickerlady · 31/08/2024 16:34

I agree. One trip to the Trafford centre tells you it's all made up nonsense.

midgetastic · 31/08/2024 16:35

Even those people who have made poor choices aren't always totally to blame though - what makes them make poor choices?

Desperation? No self belief ?

I mean imagine you being expected to have empathy- you clearly find it very hard. Now imagine that bettering g yourself required empathy - you'd be unable to better yourself

Cinnamonkie · 31/08/2024 16:36

MaryWils24 · 31/08/2024 16:34

Well, suppose for people with limited means, a lamp is a physical item that serves a useful purpose (providing light) for several years. Attending a one-day concert, whilst being more expensive, offers no long-term utility. For those with limited means, surely they should be prioritising the essentials over luxuries?

You can buy a lamp for a tenner though and I thought poor people were only allowed food and heat?

Simonjt · 31/08/2024 16:36

MaryWils24 · 31/08/2024 16:32

Obviously those with genuine and evidenced disabilities would (and do receive) more support for these, and rightly so.

I am talking about those who are in a precarious situation due to their own poor financial choices.

How can someone make good financial choices if they can’t buy shoes, clothing, cleaning products, hair cuts, education costs, transport or basic home repairs under your benefit system?

Simonjt · 31/08/2024 16:37

It also shows how detached from reality you are that you think people with disabilities are well supported in the UK.

MaryWils24 · 31/08/2024 16:37

Also, responding to the comments which suggest that the previous government have got us in “this mess” - I would hardly call leaving office with the country as the fastest growing economy in the G7 a mess. Some people could learn some sound financial management from their example!

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midgetastic · 31/08/2024 16:38

For me music is essential to living

The joy I get from a concert extends way beyond a single day - when I am down I can play a CD and relive the experience . Just thinking back to the last concerts I was at really cheers me up

I am much less visually motivated so would prioritise music over a lamp - you can listen in the dark after all!

Cinnamonkie · 31/08/2024 16:39

MaryWils24 · 31/08/2024 16:32

Obviously those with genuine and evidenced disabilities would (and do receive) more support for these, and rightly so.

I am talking about those who are in a precarious situation due to their own poor financial choices.

Also if someone has a difficult childhood, moves around a lot, has to work a dead end job to help out her parents etc she's not going to have money to better herself or upskill. Now let's say she loses her job which happens to so many people, she's claiming benefits which aren't much but because she can't afford to train or go to college or figure out what she wants to do, your solution is to provide food and heat and blame her for not being able to afford to better herself while giving her no opportunity to better herself.

midgetastic · 31/08/2024 16:39

MaryWils24 · 31/08/2024 16:37

Also, responding to the comments which suggest that the previous government have got us in “this mess” - I would hardly call leaving office with the country as the fastest growing economy in the G7 a mess. Some people could learn some sound financial management from their example!

Or if I am feeling down and can read your posts !

Cinnamonkie · 31/08/2024 16:41

MaryWils24 · 31/08/2024 16:37

Also, responding to the comments which suggest that the previous government have got us in “this mess” - I would hardly call leaving office with the country as the fastest growing economy in the G7 a mess. Some people could learn some sound financial management from their example!

Yes making millions of people reliant on food banks was such a great thing! Making the rich richer and the poor poorer is exactly along your line of thinking though

DeccaM · 31/08/2024 16:41

This thread is hilarious and disturbing in equal measure.

MaryWils24 · 31/08/2024 16:41

Cinnamonkie · 31/08/2024 16:36

You can buy a lamp for a tenner though and I thought poor people were only allowed food and heat?

Well, I would argue against buying such cheap items as they wouldn’t last. Better to buy one good lamp for £55 that will last 10 years than 10 lamps for £10 that only last a year each.

Often the difference between the wealthy and the poor is outlook. Wealthy people have a long-term outlook and invest. Sadly, poorer people live more short-term (often week-to-week). This is actually MORE costly in the long run as how I have outlined above, cheaper items need replaced more often and cost more in the long-run.

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Longma · 31/08/2024 16:42

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MaryWils24 · 31/08/2024 16:43

midgetastic · 31/08/2024 16:38

For me music is essential to living

The joy I get from a concert extends way beyond a single day - when I am down I can play a CD and relive the experience . Just thinking back to the last concerts I was at really cheers me up

I am much less visually motivated so would prioritise music over a lamp - you can listen in the dark after all!

Well, instead of spending hundreds on attending Oasis for one night, why not buy an iPod (even second hand) and download all of their songs so you have them for eternity and can listen to them whenever you want?

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midgetastic · 31/08/2024 16:43

A cheap lamp is likely to last more than a year - if anything fails it will be the switch which is pennies to replace

Cinnamonkie · 31/08/2024 16:43

MaryWils24 · 31/08/2024 16:41

Well, I would argue against buying such cheap items as they wouldn’t last. Better to buy one good lamp for £55 that will last 10 years than 10 lamps for £10 that only last a year each.

Often the difference between the wealthy and the poor is outlook. Wealthy people have a long-term outlook and invest. Sadly, poorer people live more short-term (often week-to-week). This is actually MORE costly in the long run as how I have outlined above, cheaper items need replaced more often and cost more in the long-run.

Because if someone only has a tenner they can't afford anything else? And in your dystopian fantasy the poor people wouldn't be able to invest in anything.

Simonjt · 31/08/2024 16:46

MaryWils24 · 31/08/2024 16:41

Well, I would argue against buying such cheap items as they wouldn’t last. Better to buy one good lamp for £55 that will last 10 years than 10 lamps for £10 that only last a year each.

Often the difference between the wealthy and the poor is outlook. Wealthy people have a long-term outlook and invest. Sadly, poorer people live more short-term (often week-to-week). This is actually MORE costly in the long run as how I have outlined above, cheaper items need replaced more often and cost more in the long-run.

But you personally want to prevent people on benefits from being able to buy a £55 lamp, so you’re here confirming that you want people on benefits to have higher living costs as you want to prevent them being able to buy better quality goods.

Cinnamonkie · 31/08/2024 16:48

So to clarify

  • people who don't earn enough and need benefits should get basic food and heating.
  • they're not allowed to have fun, go anywhere or do anything that makes them happy.
  • despite having no money they should save up (presumably by begging or selling food vouchers) to buy a £55 lamp because if they buy a cheap lamp it's because they're stupid and don't invest.
-they're not allowed to decorate or have anything but essentials. -they're to be looked down upon for not bettering themselves but are given no opportunity to.

So basically tory workhouses.

Have I missed anything?

midgetastic · 31/08/2024 16:49

Because ( replacing oasis with a band i actually likeSmile ) the experience of seeing musicians is part of the enjoyment and hearing what they do with the tunes, live interpretations, the band interaction , mistakes even .

And being with others who share your love and joy can be an uplifting experience

I am sad that you have never had that kind of joy and so can't understand the real value

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