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These teachers and their questionable choices

383 replies

Whitesparkled123 · 27/08/2024 08:44

1 of these teachers is a mum at my DC school and she doesn't teach at the school. One of them is a teacher at my DC school and the other is a teacher at another school. They are all friends with each other. I'm trying to be vague as this could be outing.

I'm not really that close to them but know of their partying lifestyle. All 3 have children. They often go to raves, parties and do drugs. I found out last week that 1 of them held a party and couldn't find childcare so left their children in their home whilst partying at the bottom of their garden (which is quite far). They were all there and were all on drugs. The school mum host got people to take it in turns to watch the children. Often after they have been out and are on come downs they have their children.

I've just seen one of them has been to a well known event in London. Her whole family went including the children. She's posted pics and her youngest DC is asleep on the floor (it was held on the streets). I'm shocked. I just think why would you put your own needs above those of your children.
But what can I do? I can't actually prove any of this. Plus I'm not ok with them being teachers and coming into work on the Monday with a potential come down.

OP posts:
Jellybeanbag · 27/08/2024 10:39

Op, you're getting a hard time IMO.

Parents in charge of children whilst under the influence of drugs is concerning. A rota of party guests checking on the children, concerning in itself. How do we know those people are trustworthy? Possibly also under the influence.

Teachers using drugs. Surely disciplinary action and I would be concerned if it was my child's teacher.

You are right to be concerned.

Zebedee999 · 27/08/2024 10:41

Hateam · 27/08/2024 08:55

I know this is a sexist and misogynistic word but some women really ARE bitchy towards other women.

Edited

Since when has been concerned for a child's welfare due to the parents drug taking in their presence been considered bitchy?
The OP is right to be concerned, the child's welfare should come first. Your moral compass that child welfare concerns are bitchy is completely askew.

CrimsonShades · 27/08/2024 10:42

You don’t need to conduct your own investigation or obtain evidence to report something to social services or the police. That’s their job, not yours.

If you have seen it with your own eyes and can provide witness evidence as to when and where it happened and who was involved, THAT is your evidence. It’s not guaranteed that any investigation will follow but that isn’t your responsibility. All you need to do to discharge your moral duty if you are concerned about the safety and welfare of children is to report to the relevant authorities.

NowImNotDoingIt · 27/08/2024 10:43

@Zebedee999 , but not concerned enough to do something about it?

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2024 10:43

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 27/08/2024 10:36

I taught outside London for a while and can tell you that there were far more drugs and alcohol in the East than in any of the London schools.

Also, not defending taking drugs, but it's clear OP has zero evidence so most likely it didnt happen and she's just pissed off teachers dare to have a life, so she is piling baseless accusations.

There was a thread a few years ago where a parentwanted to report a teacher for having a partner she was not married to. This sounds very similar to me. A made up thing because a teacher went to Carnival with family.

It’s just very interesting to me that there are people falling over each other to recommend reporting when the OP hears a child crying before bed but when someone actually has witnessed teachers taking drugs recreationally when in charge of their own kids, it’s fine. Why the double standards?

PADDY17 · 27/08/2024 10:45

flapjackfairy · 27/08/2024 10:27

smoking weed is v different to taking cocaine .

100% agree. Cocaine is a different ball game. And users become addicted very quickly, especially the coke nowadays and I don't care what anyone says. I would not want a cocaine user teaching my child or even responsible for my child and OP you are right to be concerned.

SmileEachDay · 27/08/2024 10:45

but when someone actually has witnessed teachers taking drugs recreationally when in charge of their own kids

I mean, she hadn’t in her OP.

SiobhanSharpe · 27/08/2024 10:46

Pipecleanerrevival · 27/08/2024 08:53

I like my teachers square and patronising the way they were in my day.

*not sarcasm - yanbu

Presumably this was also when they smoked like chimneys and formed inappropriate relationships with sixth formers?

Inlaw · 27/08/2024 10:46

I do actually know quite a few druggie teachers. So it does happen.

I do believe you’re talking rubbish though OP. Middle aged mum garden partying nottinghill carnival going druggies don’t sound hardcore at all. At worst they are having a few sniffs of coke to offset a bottle of wine. Hardly the wrecking of the century rendering them impaired for weeks on end.

Bontonbonbon · 27/08/2024 10:46

I think the reason the OP is getting such a hard time is because she’s provided quite scant details about how she ‘knows’ any of this.

OP, if you are sure of what you’ve said then absolutely report to the schools and SS. I don’t know why you haven’t yet- unless it’s that you’re not certain that how you’ve added up your ‘evidence’ is correct.

The rule of thumb is safe guarding is report everything. That’s what we do at school.

Fluufer · 27/08/2024 10:47

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2024 10:43

It’s just very interesting to me that there are people falling over each other to recommend reporting when the OP hears a child crying before bed but when someone actually has witnessed teachers taking drugs recreationally when in charge of their own kids, it’s fine. Why the double standards?

Edited

She hasn't actually witnessed anything has she? She has "heard" various things (but it's definitely not gossip!) and saw a post of one of them with their kids at Carnival.

Edingril · 27/08/2024 10:49

Maybe teachers should hand out a survey to parents to see if their weekend plans are acceptable?

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2024 10:52

SmileEachDay · 27/08/2024 10:45

but when someone actually has witnessed teachers taking drugs recreationally when in charge of their own kids

I mean, she hadn’t in her OP.

She followed up by saying she was there.

Motherofacertainage · 27/08/2024 10:52

Do the fathers of these children have any input? Is it their joint parenting choices you are concerned about? Where were they when the alleged neglect was happening? Agree with PP if you think any of their children are at risk report
If they are doing anything that publicly brings the school or the profession into disrepute then you could report to their head teachers if you are seriously concerned about their ability to do their jobs properly. We are a bit short of staff these days though so I would want to be very sure you weren't just stirring ......

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2024 10:53

Edingril · 27/08/2024 10:49

Maybe teachers should hand out a survey to parents to see if their weekend plans are acceptable?

And if those weekend plans involved taking class As and having a piss up most parents would think they probably weren’t best suited for a career that involved safe guarding and acting as a role model for vulnerable member of society.

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 27/08/2024 10:54

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2024 10:43

It’s just very interesting to me that there are people falling over each other to recommend reporting when the OP hears a child crying before bed but when someone actually has witnessed teachers taking drugs recreationally when in charge of their own kids, it’s fine. Why the double standards?

Edited

Because from what I saw op had no evidence. She saw or heard something through a grapevine. She is clutching pearls that accompanied kids went to Notting Hill Carnival. She is very clearly exagerrating and has issues around teachers a having a life outside school.

SmileEachDay · 27/08/2024 10:54

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2024 10:52

She followed up by saying she was there.

On “previous” occasions.

Not the night described in the OP. She just heard about that.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2024 10:55

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 27/08/2024 10:54

Because from what I saw op had no evidence. She saw or heard something through a grapevine. She is clutching pearls that accompanied kids went to Notting Hill Carnival. She is very clearly exagerrating and has issues around teachers a having a life outside school.

Edited

If you press ‘see all’ under the OP you’ll see subsequent posts when she states she has seen it with her own eyes.

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 27/08/2024 10:55

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2024 10:53

And if those weekend plans involved taking class As and having a piss up most parents would think they probably weren’t best suited for a career that involved safe guarding and acting as a role model for vulnerable member of society.

I'm a teacher, I do not want to act as a role model. I am there to teach kids shut my subject, but to be a statue of virtue. That's your job as a parent.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2024 10:58

SmileEachDay · 27/08/2024 10:54

On “previous” occasions.

Not the night described in the OP. She just heard about that.

Now you’re nit picking.

She is absolutely entitled to contact the school and state what she knows to be true and what she believes to be true. The school has a procedure to deal with complaints from third parties. They will at the very least keep it on file and it might then add weight to a further complaint internally or externally.

DowngradedToATropicalStorm · 27/08/2024 10:58

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 27/08/2024 10:55

I'm a teacher, I do not want to act as a role model. I am there to teach kids shut my subject, but to be a statue of virtue. That's your job as a parent.

Does this need editing or have you been to one of those parties?

SPAG much?

SmileEachDay · 27/08/2024 10:59

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2024 10:58

Now you’re nit picking.

She is absolutely entitled to contact the school and state what she knows to be true and what she believes to be true. The school has a procedure to deal with complaints from third parties. They will at the very least keep it on file and it might then add weight to a further complaint internally or externally.

I’m not nit picking.

I’m implying the OP is embellishing.

flapjackfairy · 27/08/2024 11:00

SmileEachDay · 27/08/2024 10:36

Ohhh…you see? Now they’re off their head whilst actually teaching 😂

Well they may or may not be . But class A drugs are addictive whether you want to admit it or not and who knows whether the teachers concerned are reliant upon them to function. Personally I do not want to take that risk with my children thanks. And despite the " cool girl , let's look down on the sad squares who are not in our hip and trendy gang " sneering I think most people feel the same .

echt · 27/08/2024 11:01

You're getting a hard time @Whitesparkled123

And you deserve every bit of it.

Shit or get off the pot.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2024 11:01

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 27/08/2024 10:55

I'm a teacher, I do not want to act as a role model. I am there to teach kids shut my subject, but to be a statue of virtue. That's your job as a parent.

I’m sorry to say you are a member of society that does have that burden attached to your job through your acknowledged code of conduct. There are many other things you are not supposed to do - like enter a romantic relationship with a pupil who might legally be of an age but is under your tutelage.

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