These teachers and their questionable choices

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1 of these teachers is a mum at my DC school and she doesn't teach at the school. One of them is a teacher at my DC school and the other is a teacher at another school. They are all friends with each other. I'm trying to be vague as this could be outing.

I'm not really that close to them but know of their partying lifestyle. All 3 have children. They often go to raves, parties and do drugs. I found out last week that 1 of them held a party and couldn't find childcare so left their children in their home whilst partying at the bottom of their garden (which is quite far). They were all there and were all on drugs. The school mum host got people to take it in turns to watch the children. Often after they have been out and are on come downs they have their children.

I've just seen one of them has been to a well known event in London. Her whole family went including the children. She's posted pics and her youngest DC is asleep on the floor (it was held on the streets). I'm shocked. I just think why would you put your own needs above those of your children.
But what can I do? I can't actually prove any of this. Plus I'm not ok with them being teachers and coming into work on the Monday with a potential come down.

Op I think you are right.
If you posted so and so who does not work and lives in a council house. And has parties with drugs. whist children are present.
Well the responses would be call ss call the police .
But as its teachers it seems to be the opposite..

If a teacher was convicted of a drugs offence, even a first offence, they would loose their job, be reported to the TRA and potentially disqualified from teaching, get a record on their DBS making it unlikely they would be hired by another school.

It does go on, of course, but if you are caught the penalties are justifiably career ending.

@Pipecleanerrevival

your teachers were square - as far as you knew!

I'm sure the young students these women teach also think their teachers are square.

FWIW I used to work in a school where one particular department's staff were known for partying very hard. On one night out, all in fancy dress and everyone, except the only abstainer in the group, off their heads on the substances of their choice they met a group of men at a local pub and spent the rest of the night touring the local night life together. One of those men was so impressed with them that he sent his son to our school on the basis that any institution that could forge such great friendships amongst the staff must be a an uplifting environment.

If you can prove they are drugs you need to be in contact with their Head teachers and the LEA. If they are supplying drugs you need to contact the police and if you are concerned about their children's welfare you need to get in touch with social services. You know this so just do it.

Are you doing cocaine with your dc in the house and going to work on a come down?

That is a serious issue, I agree.
How irresponsible if these things are true.

Watch Bad Teacher and have a laugh ... but you are right to be mindful of the care of children.
Drug or alcohol affected people are not ideal, true.

Could you write a book with changed names as the characters? Print it yourself and donate a copy to the school library.
Watch Bad Teacher again, as it is VERY funny!

It doesn't say not to get off your tits on drugs in your own garden in the teachers standards op. As a teacher who doesn't take drugs I find it offensive you are making this a a
thing about teachers. Do you have any evidence they aren't doing their jobs properly? The bigger issue is surely whether there are safeguarding concerns over their children....or would you keep your oar out of their business if they worked in an office because that wouldn't be a problem for you?

Bizarre. 😂

I'm surprised so many people think you're unreasonable.

A lot of my peers trained as teachers and many are recreational drug users. I do know this because I've seen it at parties (although don't use myself). If anything the teachers were more likely to be the drug users. While there are people who go into teaching because its a lifelong dream and they're passionate about teaching children, tbh many of the people I know who became teachers coasted along in life, weren't very responsible or sensible and sort of fell into teaching because they didn't know what else to do (and it was a job they were familiar with from being children). I wonder if there's a correlation between that personality type and taking recreational drugs.

I always found it bizarre and uncomfortable too.

That was my exact thoughts -there have been posts where the boyfriend does weed and the replies are along the lines of - if you expose your dc to this drug taking loser then you deserve to have your dc removed - but teachers can do class as with dc in the house

I’m a teacher. We are human!

What we get up to in the holidays and at weekends is very different to our professional manners at school.

Me on a girls trip to Ibiza in the summer is a very different me that will be welcoming my new class this time next week.

It's almost as if... different posters have different ideas..

I am actually shocked at peoples casual attitude to drug taking. And believe me, I am no prude. I have someone quite close to me in my family that has episodes now still a full year later after stopping taking drugs.
Its a well known fact that taking Coke can cause psychotic episodes the next day on come downs. These women are likely to be teaching and responsible for 25 to 30 small kids the next day? If they were teaching my kid I def would be getting evidence and reporting.
They should not have gone in to that profession if they wanted the party life style and I 100% agree with OP that this is not something I would be comfortable with.

If you believe their children are at risk of harm then you should report to social services. They may not investigate on one report but it will stay "on file".

I dont have children.
Im not keen on a lot of people firemen police officers some actors men in suits its a me problem.
Nothing about the person really its more of their job.

It's not only that you'd need evidence of the drug taking to interest social services.. you'd also need evidence they were the sole carer for a young child at the time of the drug taking and that them being on drugs was negatively impacting their care of that child.
So yes this would be nigh on impossible to get social services interested in.
And for good reason.
I actually work in social and they aren't the morality police. They care about the welfare of children. They do not care about what adults do in their free time if there is no evidence they were solely responsible for a child at that time and there's no evidence a child was in danger or is being neglected etc.
Social services aren't there to decide how anyone lives their life they are there to protect children. Being incredibly invasive and heavy handed does not protect children. Children belong with their parents if at all possible. If the children are well cared for, appear happy and healthy.. there's just no need for social services intervention. It doesn't matter if you saw one of the parents doing mandy at a rave, it doesn't matter if they go to sex clubs or believe aliens walk the earth or spend their free time hugging trees or whatever thing you wouldn't do yourself. It doesn't even matter if they did something illegal (to social services I mean it may matter to the police) unless that has impacted on the care of their children and there is solid evidence for that. Social services aren't the morality police.

I don't think you are or should be the morality police either.
Do you genuinely have any evidence that these people are neglecting their kids or that they aren't doing their jobs well? And I don't mean just seeing them do drugs once at a party, or thinking they shouldn't have taken their kid to Notting Hill carnival. I mean actual evidence their lifestyle choices are affecting their parenting or their teaching?
If not then this is none of your business and you should wind your neck in.

Unless you'd do that after hearing they'd been drinking alcohol, there's no reason to do it for other intoxicants. We have archaic drug laws that are not fit for purpose.

If they worked in an office, they are not responsible for children the next day after a night out on the coke.. They also have to teach the future generation whilst being on a come down? Come on now?

Are you just mad that you’ve not been invited?

Of course they do - I am referring to an overwhelming tone over the whole thread rather than individual thoughts - and while there are opinions on this thread that the ops concerns are valid there is an overwhelming tone that this is ok. If the subject had been less "worthy" than a teacher the tone is most often on here the complete opposite

They also have to teach the future generation whilst being on a come down? Come on now?

it’s the summer holidays. No teaching happening.

The OP has expressed no concerns about the quality of teaching, and has embellished her evidence as the thread has developed. I think the future generation is ok.