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Aibu to not want to move up north

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time2changeCharlieBrown · 25/08/2024 21:02

My dh has been offered a great job opportunity a high payrise
the catch is we have to relocate up north near Leeds
so my main concerns is the weather
I hate winter, rain and snow and up there seems to get more?
also I joined a few online community groups recently to get a feel for it and learn about the areas and what’s around
all I have mainly seen is awful things about robbery’s and car theft and violent crimes! It’s really putting me off!
we have a son who is not too far off an age to go clubbing and for nights out and even though he is 6 foot 5 he’s very striking looking mixed race (Greek) and I worry about him being a target and our eldest daughter too also very striking ,but both quite naive as we currently live in a small village and don’t often go into big cities and they are at small schools.
my dh is from a different town up north not too far from Leeds still has friends there and says it’s fine and all city’s are the same and the kids will be fine as not in any gangs and unlikely to be. I am a worrier so Aibu to not want to move?

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Solymoly · 26/08/2024 11:30

DS did find his hayfever was better living a bit further north though, that's probably weather related with it being cooler and wetter.

ElaineMBenes · 26/08/2024 11:30

Wabberjockey · 26/08/2024 11:20

I would never move from the south west to somewhere like Leeds. The lifestyle change would be too vast and I need to be near the sea.

Lifestyle change?!

Scentedjasmin · 26/08/2024 11:30

No, I don't think that you should go. I wouldn't be worried about the crime. I don't think that it's worse than most places. However, I would be wary about taking your children from their friends. And you presumably also have established your own life. What's to say that you will all be happier? What if your husband doesn't enjoy his new job? Or you moved and he lost his job? Unless you are unhappy with your current life, then stay put.

Saschka · 26/08/2024 11:34

OP, I think by making this a North/South thing you have got a lot of people’s backs up. The issue is moving from a small coastal village or a big city, which is obviously going to be a big lifestyle change regardless of where the city is.

Somebody might be similarly reluctant to move from Seahouses (NE coast) to Leeds.

Conniebygaslight · 26/08/2024 11:34

time2changeCharlieBrown · 25/08/2024 21:45

I can’t say I go to London either once a very long time ago
i tjink my problem is I only ever lived in small towns or villages and it’s where I also grew up in one and I’m not used to more built up places ,so I guess the idea scares me especially after the things I have seen on these communities groups people are talking about it just seems scary and not enticing at all .

Do you seriously think that there are no beautiful villages in Yorkshire that are easily commutable from Leeds….?

Solymoly · 26/08/2024 11:35

Maybe move to Harrogate or York and he can commute from there on the train

time2changeCharlieBrown · 26/08/2024 11:36

Octopies · 26/08/2024 11:14

I've owned a shop in the city for the past 13 years, 5 minutes walk from the Victoria Quarter, just a little further out of the city. There's been a marked increase in violent crimes and antisocial behaviour in the past few years, stabbings, robberies, etc, shoplifting is rife. We're reaching the point where we're considering installing an intercom system so people have to buzz to come in. It didn't used to be like this. I dread going into work as you never know what brand of inebriated wanker is going to come through the door and cause trouble. Especially hate the days where I have a late finish and have to walk through the city centre to get the train home.

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This is exactly the stuff I’ve been reading about and worrying about, and dh family have mentioned these things too up there.
a few knife crime attacks and robberies and also some racism where they are and nearby.
I know things happen else where but seems certain places are worse than others
or at least you hear about them more
of course I don’t think it’s the slums
and yes I need to get out of my bubble more
(since COVID been home based more)
I am sure most people are lovely
although some on this thread make me feel we won’t be welcome anyway
we will still go for the weekend and visit as many places as possible and some do sound really nice and I am feeling better about seeing those
its giving me more to think about and the older dc are excited about potentially new places to explore with more going on they are very interested in arts and history so I think some of the places will be very appealing to them and my dh went to Leeds university so I think he’d be happy if our dc chose there, and our daughter is interested in arts and agriculture and hear York is good for that subject, so we shall see.

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Scentedjasmin · 26/08/2024 11:37

Would you consider York? It's a beautiful small safe city but only a 22min commute to Leeds by train.

time2changeCharlieBrown · 26/08/2024 11:37

Octopies… This is exactly the stuff I’ve been reading about and worrying about, and dh family have mentioned these things too up there.
a few knife crime attacks and robberies and also some racism where they are and nearby.
I know things happen else where but seems certain places are worse than others
or at least you hear about them more
of course I don’t think it’s the slums
and yes I need to get out of my bubble more
(since COVID been home based more)
I am sure most people are lovely
although some on this thread make me feel we won’t be welcome anyway
we will still go for the weekend and visit as many places as possible and some do sound really nice and I am feeling better about seeing those
its giving me more to think about and the older dc are excited about potentially new places to explore with more going on they are very interested in arts and history so I think some of the places will be very appealing to them and my dh went to Leeds university so I think he’d be happy if our dc chose there, and our daughter is interested in arts and agriculture and hear York is good for that subject, so we shall see.

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time2changeCharlieBrown · 26/08/2024 11:38

Scentedjasmin · 26/08/2024 11:37

Would you consider York? It's a beautiful small safe city but only a 22min commute to Leeds by train.

This is helpful and it sounds good thank you

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FieldInWhichFucksAreGrownIsBarren · 26/08/2024 11:39

time2changeCharlieBrown · 25/08/2024 21:45

I can’t say I go to London either once a very long time ago
i tjink my problem is I only ever lived in small towns or villages and it’s where I also grew up in one and I’m not used to more built up places ,so I guess the idea scares me especially after the things I have seen on these communities groups people are talking about it just seems scary and not enticing at all .

You are aware that there a small towns and villages literally everywhere in the UK right? It isn't something that is limited to the South only 🙄
You need to ensure you visit with an open mind otherwise you're wasting your time.
Cannot stand this bizarre attitude that people have about 'the North' though in all honesty Leeds really isn't that far into the North of England anyway.

C8H10N4O2 · 26/08/2024 11:41

Demonhunter · 26/08/2024 10:34

Yeah I'm in the North East and definitely class Leodensians as fellow Northerners.

Newscastle? My colleagues based in Newcastle/Middlesborough areas routinely refer to our Leeds and Mancs offices as being in the Midlands 😃

Solymoly · 26/08/2024 11:44

I would probably look at places on easy train routes to Leeds as you will probably find something more suitable for you then, as PP says York. When DS lived in Leeds and we holidayed in York it was very easy for him to get the train to meet up with us
Or if you wanted a smaller town or village see what is on the train route.

alrightluv · 26/08/2024 11:44

C8H10N4O2 · 26/08/2024 11:41

Newscastle? My colleagues based in Newcastle/Middlesborough areas routinely refer to our Leeds and Mancs offices as being in the Midlands 😃

I'm north east and class Leeds as north.

Yorkshiregal1 · 26/08/2024 11:46

I was just going to suggest York too, there'll be nice villages around too. Thirsk is one. Headingley is very studenty, chapel allerton near Leeds is nice.

Cesarina · 26/08/2024 11:48

Redegg · 25/08/2024 21:27

You’ll be fine. Admittedly the wooden clogs did take some getting used to when I moved, and it was odd that every dog was a whippet. You just need to work out strategies to address the differences - for example, I tackled my concerns about the outside toilet by getting a chamber pot.

...........I fully agree! And not forgetting the amazing variety of flat caps in t'shops, and the people being so tight that their arses squeak......

DrPeculiar · 26/08/2024 11:49

time2changeCharlieBrown · 26/08/2024 11:37

Octopies… This is exactly the stuff I’ve been reading about and worrying about, and dh family have mentioned these things too up there.
a few knife crime attacks and robberies and also some racism where they are and nearby.
I know things happen else where but seems certain places are worse than others
or at least you hear about them more
of course I don’t think it’s the slums
and yes I need to get out of my bubble more
(since COVID been home based more)
I am sure most people are lovely
although some on this thread make me feel we won’t be welcome anyway
we will still go for the weekend and visit as many places as possible and some do sound really nice and I am feeling better about seeing those
its giving me more to think about and the older dc are excited about potentially new places to explore with more going on they are very interested in arts and history so I think some of the places will be very appealing to them and my dh went to Leeds university so I think he’d be happy if our dc chose there, and our daughter is interested in arts and agriculture and hear York is good for that subject, so we shall see.

This is crackers OP. One voice amongst tons of others and you choose to focus on that.

I catch the train into Leeds a couple of times a week, also went to uni there, twice with a 30 year gap between the two. I often go out after work in the evenings, walk around the city alone as a 50 odd year old woman, because I feel safe, as safe as anywhere else.

I was proud of my home city during the recent racist mob behaviour. The counter anti-racist protestors saw off Nige's army. The cretins turned and ran away because hundreds of decent people turned out to stand up against racism.

The negative for you is that you might find house prices more expensive here than in the SW depending on where you are.

I wouldn't go to a village with an older teen/young adult personally. They'll enjoy ease of access to the city centre.

Floofydawg · 26/08/2024 11:49

Commonsenseisnotsocommon · 25/08/2024 21:41

Op, with kindness, you are coming across as very small minded indeed. Maybe stay in the south, Northerners really cannot stand southerners with a chip on their shoulder moving up begrudgingly. Oh and look at the crime rates for London, think you'll find it's not so wonderful after all.

Yep, totally agree.

BitOutOfPractice · 26/08/2024 11:49

You do realise everyone in the north isn’t a snaggle toothed slack jawed drunk living in a crack den don’t you? 🙄

Demonhunter · 26/08/2024 11:50

C8H10N4O2 · 26/08/2024 11:41

Newscastle? My colleagues based in Newcastle/Middlesborough areas routinely refer to our Leeds and Mancs offices as being in the Midlands 😃

I'm Sunderland and I always think if you pinpoint Sheffield, draw a straight line across the country through Sheffield, that's where the North begins and ends.

Calliecarpa · 26/08/2024 11:50

Starting to think the OP is winding everyone up for a laugh. No one can possibly be this clueless and prejudiced and narrow-minded. Surely they can't be.

FranceIsWhereItsAt · 26/08/2024 11:52

OP we moved to Wales from Southern England, and everyone kept saying why would you want to move there, it always rains in Wales? We ended up living there for 8 years, and I can honestly say that it didn't particularly feel like it rained there any more than down South. There were days when we had beautiful sunshine, while it was raining down South, and vice versa, so it really is very hard to judge, but in all honesty I wouldn't allow the weather to make a difference as to whether I accepted a job, particularly if it's a promotion with considerably more money. Yorkshire is absolutely beautiful too, so it's likely you'll be able to find just as nice a village as where you live now, and depending on where you are currently, and where you choose to move to, it could be cheaper too. I suggest doing LOTS of research, rather than just turning it down flat out of some misconceived idea you have in your head.

time2changeCharlieBrown · 26/08/2024 11:54

DrPeculiar · 26/08/2024 11:49

This is crackers OP. One voice amongst tons of others and you choose to focus on that.

I catch the train into Leeds a couple of times a week, also went to uni there, twice with a 30 year gap between the two. I often go out after work in the evenings, walk around the city alone as a 50 odd year old woman, because I feel safe, as safe as anywhere else.

I was proud of my home city during the recent racist mob behaviour. The counter anti-racist protestors saw off Nige's army. The cretins turned and ran away because hundreds of decent people turned out to stand up against racism.

The negative for you is that you might find house prices more expensive here than in the SW depending on where you are.

I wouldn't go to a village with an older teen/young adult personally. They'll enjoy ease of access to the city centre.

Thank you

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sunseaandsoundingoff · 26/08/2024 11:55

Your kids will have a much better upbringing near/in a city where there's a lot more to do and many more socialising options, plus a lot more chances to be independent and experience different things. Kids hate living rurally, they're climbing the walls as teenagers. I remember a friend's child coming to visit me and looking crestfallen when we took them to a great hobby place and they were told there were no options for it near where they lived.

The north/south part is irrelevant, countryside to city is a much bigger change.

The only good thing about living rurally is grass, and you can just go to a park for that.

You'll probably feel intimidated by the tall buildings on your weekend away, that will take you some getting used to but is totally normal.

disdisdisisgood · 26/08/2024 11:55

Wabberjockey · 26/08/2024 11:20

I would never move from the south west to somewhere like Leeds. The lifestyle change would be too vast and I need to be near the sea.

I went to Gloucester city centre recently and I now presume that all of the south west is exactly the same as Gloucester city centre (because, you know, THE NORTH is all the same, therefore, the south west is all the same). Anyway, I feel for you, living among such drug ridden poverty. You should try to make some money and move north if ever you're lucky enough to change the terrible circumstances you are currently in.