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Who should receive the compensation?

447 replies

Olanabunny · 20/08/2024 23:16

An extended family holiday booked to celebrate somebody's big birthday
Birthday person's cost for the holiday was spread between the rest of the people attending. 2 free child places were also applied
Flight was significantly delayed
Compensation was claimed by the lead of the booking and received today.
How should it be split?
Should the children with a free place be awarded it? Should the birthday person receive a share even though they didn't pay anything towards the holiday or should those who paid for their holiday receive a portion of it back?

OP posts:
Firawla · 21/08/2024 10:11

Just give everyone their allocated 520 and forget about it. People talking about if others don’t offer to split their compensation then they will secretly judge them are a bunch of weirdos and there is also no point spending time and energy making your own splits and percentages on what you morally think is the right one, when the airline already allocated per passenger.
anyone could go online and see what the amounts are supposed to be and then you have to explain why you’ve started making your own changes to it and distributing it differently??? That would be so awkward and embarrassing
it doesn’t matter if you think it’s not fair for the birthday passenger to get their compensation because they have been allocated it so just hand it over.
otherwise you could have just let everyone claim their own separately and take responsibility for their own.

WhatapityWapiti · 21/08/2024 10:15

You may be interested to know that in personal injury claims in English law parent can’t agree the value of a settlement on behalf of a child. The amount has to be approved by a court, even if there was no trial and the settlement has just been negotiated.

Also, the limitation period for personal injury claims is 3 years, but if a child is injured the 3 years doesn’t start to run until they are 18, so a child can’t be prejudiced by their parent’s failure to claim on their behalf.

Round3HereWeGo · 21/08/2024 10:19

It is compensation paid to each passenger that was inconvenienced. That's who the company have paid out to. Its not like a refund

It would be immoral to give it to only paying passengers

Ohiwish12 · 21/08/2024 10:23

Compensation should be paid per person. Everyone was affected by the delay. Presumably everyone had to buy food & drinks whilst waiting including for the kids? The parents probably had to spend more time entertaining the children/settling them rather than it being relaxing planned to times.

BrownBirdWelcomesWhiteWave · 21/08/2024 10:24

Bollindger · 21/08/2024 09:55

Funny isn't it, this is about how you work as a family.
Mine would be that everyone in the family was reimbursed as much as possible...
So if the money is more than the holiday costs. I would repay everyone and we all got an equal share of what was left including the children or used for a family treat.
I would also be the person with the 2 children.

I love my family and no way would I walk off with £1000 bonus and have my family resent me for it.

Whether legal or not, I would agree with this approach

roses2 · 21/08/2024 10:26

The compensation should be split per person. The children may have been advertised as free but nothing is for free. The company would have bundled the child cost into the adult fee.

The OP hasn't stated how the money will be shared. If all adults get the EU regulated amount and the person who made the claim keeps the money for all the kids then that's not right. If the money is equally shared between the adults then that is slightly more acceptable but given the compensation is awarded per person inc children then in my view that's how it should be distributed.

Tiswa · 21/08/2024 10:42

The thing is though the holiday was enjoyed and the benefit received from that - the children received free child places (and one assumes were in a hotel room with their parents) so in that sense no refund is needed to be shared out because that part was fulfilled

then a huge delay occurred affecting everyone so everyone gets compensation as set out in very strict legal terms

Bollindger · 21/08/2024 11:03

How sad that people are so money grabbing that they would demand the £520 person split, instead of making sure no one in the family is out of pocket...
Just shows how selfish people have become.

HelpmyDCbecomefinanciallysavvy · 21/08/2024 11:15

Bollindger · 21/08/2024 11:03

How sad that people are so money grabbing that they would demand the £520 person split, instead of making sure no one in the family is out of pocket...
Just shows how selfish people have become.

It is money grabbing, selfish and against the law to steal compensation claimed for an individual in their name by not giving it to them!

You have to be a certain type of narcissistic person to twist this fact around!

BIossomtoes · 21/08/2024 11:18

Bollindger · 21/08/2024 11:03

How sad that people are so money grabbing that they would demand the £520 person split, instead of making sure no one in the family is out of pocket...
Just shows how selfish people have become.

It’s not money grabbing and has nothing to do with being out of pocket. It’s additional money to compensate for inconvenience. Every member of the party has been equally inconvenienced and should therefore be equally compensated.

GoFigure235 · 21/08/2024 11:27

NoSquirrels · 21/08/2024 09:47

I’d claim for my children (because the money is on offer so why wouldn’t I?) and I’d keep their compensation. I wouldn’t feel at all bad about it! Maybe now they’re teens I’d offer them some of it, but tbh if we were delayed in an airport or elsewhere on holiday all my children’s extra costs would fall to me to pay - I’d have been the one forking out for extra food & drink, or entertainment or what have you. And honest to god, their time is not equivalent to my time - a delay returning from holiday might mean I lost earnings but my children would just spend a day in a different place, slightly bored. I think I should get extra compensation for putting up with them, frankly! Grin

This is still claiming "for" the children though. It's for parents to spend money on behalf of their young children. I'm assuming you spend much more than the cost of any compensation on a yearly basis on things that benefit your kids, so all the compensation would mean is a bigger family budget for your kids. But that's still something "for" them. They'll get the monetary value of the compensation in the form you the parent decide is beneficial for them (and presumably not £520 to spend in the toy shop 😂!).

For my DC, I'd spend £500 on some extra days in football camp - a gift to them as they'd get the benefit of it, a gift to me as I'd get some much-needed hours without their blessed company!

Bollindger · 21/08/2024 11:28

As I said , if you love your family, why would your first thought morally not be to ensure no one is out of pocket for this holiday. Sod the rules, that is just greed on people's part, and all who demand £520 per person are showing their true colours.
I have the 2 free children...
It was a family holiday. So be a family....

poetryandwine · 21/08/2024 11:34

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 20/08/2024 23:23

Isn't compensation for inconvenience though? Do the money should go to those inconvenienced. Like when I book a train through work and it gets cancelled and I end up at York station for 3 extra hours, I get that compensation they don't, because it's my time wasted

I agree with this.

Based on the sum given the inconvenience was substantial. The children were as inconvenienced as anyone and deserve their own share of the money, as does the birthday person

poetryandwine · 21/08/2024 11:35

Tiswa · 21/08/2024 10:42

The thing is though the holiday was enjoyed and the benefit received from that - the children received free child places (and one assumes were in a hotel room with their parents) so in that sense no refund is needed to be shared out because that part was fulfilled

then a huge delay occurred affecting everyone so everyone gets compensation as set out in very strict legal terms

This is an important point. If the holiday had been cancelled my thinking would be different

sandyhappypeople · 21/08/2024 11:36

Bollindger · 21/08/2024 11:03

How sad that people are so money grabbing that they would demand the £520 person split, instead of making sure no one in the family is out of pocket...
Just shows how selfish people have become.

You only have to look on here to see the people that would insist on it though.

It's the difference of what is legally right and what is morally appropriate IMO, the 9 people who paid couldn't split the compo any other way then the way it is designated, so everyone should absolutely get their £520, but IMO it should fall to the parents of the kids and even the birthday person to see the others right in some way (after expenses), even if it was just a token gesture or a meal out etc, they are only on that holiday because everyone else has kindly paid for them to be there.

I couldn't have taken my kids on a free holiday (only 'free' because all other adults are paying full price), then accepted over £1000 compensation for them alone without saying anything or offering to split some of it back into the group, or offering to treat everyone else, I'm sure there are people who would do it though.

I'm wondering how many of these people who would gladly hang on to the money without a second thought would actually give it to their kids? I think there'd be a bit of a double standard dilemma there, because that money is for the kids.. I think I know the answer.

HelpmyDCbecomefinanciallysavvy · 21/08/2024 11:37

Bollindger · 21/08/2024 11:28

As I said , if you love your family, why would your first thought morally not be to ensure no one is out of pocket for this holiday. Sod the rules, that is just greed on people's part, and all who demand £520 per person are showing their true colours.
I have the 2 free children...
It was a family holiday. So be a family....

What the family all agrees afterwards has nothing to do with it.

If all those that claimed including the children (or the their parents) don’t have a say and are dictated to it is a corrupt family dynamic not a loving fair family.

Bollindger · 21/08/2024 11:37

Just curious.
So if this was a UK holiday.
You rented a holiday home, and something went wrong.
9 people paid for the home, 12 people went and you got refund a on the house rental price by insurance.
Wouldn't you refund on who paid, nor per person...
So what is different?

tennesseewhiskey1 · 21/08/2024 11:38

so you are the lead booker - thats how you know? Split it between everyone who paid, if kind - give some to kids.

HelpmyDCbecomefinanciallysavvy · 21/08/2024 11:40

Bollindger · 21/08/2024 11:37

Just curious.
So if this was a UK holiday.
You rented a holiday home, and something went wrong.
9 people paid for the home, 12 people went and you got refund a on the house rental price by insurance.
Wouldn't you refund on who paid, nor per person...
So what is different?

This has nothing to do with this situation.

Your insistence on laboring your point beyond the remit of meaningful comparison is evident of how you are trying to twist things to suit your views.

Loving? Caring? Fair?

Manipulative and self serving.

The law is the law. If you claim for compensation in an individuals name that person or their parents (if minors) should have the final decision how their compensation money is allocated. Full stop. Anything else is stealing and corrupt.

GoFigure235 · 21/08/2024 11:41

It doesn't matter if the parents would actually give it to their kids or not, as long as they spend it on things benefiting the kids.

Bollindger · 21/08/2024 11:46

Not twisting thing.
I would be the one £1000 up on a holiday and I would be ashamed of taking the money, knowing everyone could have been refunded what they paid, if I have a moral compass...
Once the money is claimed back how we as a family pay it out is up to us, so nothing illegal here...

sandyhappypeople · 21/08/2024 11:49

GoFigure235 · 21/08/2024 11:41

It doesn't matter if the parents would actually give it to their kids or not, as long as they spend it on things benefiting the kids.

well it does matter doesn't it..

because the "kIDs ArE ThE OnEs BeINg InCoNvEnIeNcEd ToO"

everyone says the kids deserve the money because they have been inconvenienced too.. it is them who are named as recipients, and should be up to them how it is spent.. not their parents.

That's just as bad as the lead booker keeping their share and distributing it any way they choose, it isn't up to them to do that, the kids are named on the compo claim and it should be given to them directly, anyone who agrees the parents can do what they like with it is a hypocrite.

HelpmyDCbecomefinanciallysavvy · 21/08/2024 11:52

@Bollindger If you are the original OP why are you name changing?

It seems that in doing so you are even trying to manipulate and shame responder's on this post who have responded to your original point but have a different view point to you.

You are the parents you can therefore do what you want with your children’s compensation money. Why then try and shame those of us who believe the children should receive the money?

I don’t understand why anyone would name change and state that responders with a different view are selfish and money grabbing unless they themselves are extremely manipulative and narcissistic and need to justify their POV regardless of how insulting they are to others with a different view.

sandyhappypeople · 21/08/2024 11:54

HelpmyDCbecomefinanciallysavvy · 21/08/2024 11:52

@Bollindger If you are the original OP why are you name changing?

It seems that in doing so you are even trying to manipulate and shame responder's on this post who have responded to your original point but have a different view point to you.

You are the parents you can therefore do what you want with your children’s compensation money. Why then try and shame those of us who believe the children should receive the money?

I don’t understand why anyone would name change and state that responders with a different view are selfish and money grabbing unless they themselves are extremely manipulative and narcissistic and need to justify their POV regardless of how insulting they are to others with a different view.

Edited

are you talking to me?

HelpmyDCbecomefinanciallysavvy · 21/08/2024 11:59

Bollindger · 21/08/2024 11:46

Not twisting thing.
I would be the one £1000 up on a holiday and I would be ashamed of taking the money, knowing everyone could have been refunded what they paid, if I have a moral compass...
Once the money is claimed back how we as a family pay it out is up to us, so nothing illegal here...

@sandyhappypeople responding to this quote not sure if this is OP and failed name change?

Why do you think I am talking to you?