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Neighbours on holiday and left dog in house

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PrimaryBufferPanel · 19/08/2024 04:20

And the poor bloody animal has been crying and barking for 24 hours. She has the occasional rest but it’s pretty much constant other than that. They have form for this: worst before this recent episode was leaving the poor dog crying for 12 hours straight when they went out one time. That wasn’t the only time but was previously the worst.

They were reported and notified so they know their dog has separation anxiety. Yet this morning in the early hours the entire family fucks off on holiday - must be a holiday as they all had suitcases - and since they left, that poor dog has been crying.

Someone came in for around twenty minutes earlier today to let the dog in the garden and presumably to feed her. But then they fucked off and since then just non stop crying interspersed with barking. it’s honestly NOT annoying me - it’s making me feel so sad for the dog.

Given they had suitcases this has got to be for at least a week, I know the dog will be fed and let out for twenty minutes a day but it’s so clearly in distress! What would you do? Anything?

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OhmygodDont · 19/08/2024 12:35

RSPCA don’t actually have the powers to do bugger all. Yes they will come and do the tape trick but again if the tape is intact it’s the police who technically legally take the dog and then hand it over to the rspca to look after.

As long as the dog has food, water, shelter(if outside) someone’s popping in once a day they cannot and will not do anything other than offer advice to the owner about improving the dogs time while they are away with more popping in or using kennels.

People seem to believe wrongly that the RSPCA are some kind of pet police with rights and legal standing to come and take away pets. They don’t.

Sometimes people get scammed to paying someone/a company to visit multiple times for hours and they just don’t turn up sadly. Or supposed to be sleeping over and again they lie and just pop in once a day.

Dog warden again won’t care, council for noise won’t solve anything either. You’ll ring, they will say do a diary for 1/2 weeks then take it further by which point dog owners back.

Not a good life for the dog but not a police break down the door and rescue situation.

HoneyLimesBlossom · 19/08/2024 12:49

@HamBagelNoCheese well please don’t take ‘offence’ but BUGGER off then! People like me and my types of helpers and darling doggies haven’t got time for time wasters like you Barbara.

SummerSplashing · 19/08/2024 13:12

DonnaBanana · 19/08/2024 09:38

I just went away for a week and left my cat outside. Came back he’s happy as Larry. Animals can adapt if you let them after all they come from nature.

@DonnaBanana

thats cruel. Leaving it to hunt wildlife too I assume? Or did you at least have the decency to have someone feeding it? Did it have any safe shelter? I'm guessing not. Poor cat. You shouldn't have a cat if you're not going to care for it.

that aside, cats are not dogs. Dogs have been domesticated to suit humans, the very least a human can do is provide safe shelter, food & exercise, plus obvious somewhere to toilet.

before we interfered they didn't used to shit in kitchen not live alone.

SummerSplashing · 19/08/2024 13:17

Grammarnut · 19/08/2024 09:48

The dog hasn't been abandoned, someone is coming in to feed her and exercise her. Would she be better in kennels? Probably not. The issue is that the dog owners have not come to terms with having a dog, nor have they trained her properly (mind, if she is something like a cocapoo she will have inbuilt anxiety because the cross in highly-strung), nor have they thought about the sort of dog which would suit their life-style. They need a good dog-walker who will board the dog when they are away. This is expensive, however. The alternative is to take 'dog-friendly' holidays, which means staying in the UK.

DD and her DP have a dog with anxiety. They either take him with them when they go away, or board him with his dog-walker, or find a family member to come and stay if it's a short break, or messy and work-related (DD travels a lot for her job).

Neighbours are not being cruel, but they have the wrong dog for their life-style and cannot afford/do not understand that they need a more hands-on style of dog-sitter, rather than relying on a friend to come in once a day to feed/walk the dog.
Why do you not offer to dog-sit if this upsets you?

@Grammarnut

Dont be ridiculous, of course the neighbours are being cruel.

no dog would be happy being shut in (with its own shit) while the owners go on holiday, being fed once a day & company for 20 minutes.

Even your daughter has more sense.

not all cockapoos are highly strung & anxious either.

SummerSplashing · 19/08/2024 13:20

oakleaffy · 19/08/2024 10:36

That's really awful.
Poor poor dog.

Surely they are breaking noise laws? The noise of the barking would really disturb me- barking dogs , especially an abandoned dog is very distressing.

RSPCA are useless- I have reported {as did many others} a dog chained up in a scrap yard -He was never walked, the RSPCA Chap said ''Dog has a barrel to shelter in, food and water- it's not illegal to keep a dog chained 24/7 365 days a year, unfortunately''

I offered to walk the dog so many times, it was refused.
He got more and more aggressive with frustration as the years went by, his chain polished smooth with dragging across the ground.

A Border Collie X.
A dog with that intelligence chained for life.

It was so bad.

@oakleaffy

yge RSPCA are not the problem here, they can only work within the law and the LAW is frightfully low bar.

SummerSplashing · 19/08/2024 13:29

BettyBardMacDonald · 19/08/2024 11:30

I wish there had been a trigger warning; this is extremely distressing.

@BettyBardMacDonald

What would you like the TW for?

Was the title not quite enough to earn you it wasn't going to be warm fuzzy thread?

SummerSplashing · 19/08/2024 13:31

MrTiddlesTheCat · 19/08/2024 11:42

Disgusting. That's a criminal offence where I live.

@MrTiddlesTheCat

ehere do you live, I think I'd like it there 😊

SummerSplashing · 19/08/2024 13:36

I wonder if @PrimaryBufferPanel is going to come back to their thread with any kind of comment:update?

Boopbeepbeepboop · 19/08/2024 14:36

Anotherparkingthread · 19/08/2024 10:49

Well yeah. In much the same way when something isn't a crime, you probably shouldn't report it.

Why would you want to if you know nothing will happen? To waste people's time? To make yourself feel better by taking ultimately fruitless actions?

Trying to do something is better than doing nothing. Why would reporting a distressed animal be only to make yourself feel better? I think that probably says more about you than anything else.

Anotherparkingthread · 19/08/2024 14:41

Boopbeepbeepboop · 19/08/2024 14:36

Trying to do something is better than doing nothing. Why would reporting a distressed animal be only to make yourself feel better? I think that probably says more about you than anything else.

There's literally nothing to be done though. The animals minimal care requirements are being met and wether or not you agree with that morally, or I do, is besides the point.

PrimaryBufferPanel · 19/08/2024 15:31

Bit of an update. So I only saw someone go in once yesterday but they’ve been in at least once today (possibly twice?), just to feed her and let her into the garden, but even so that’s better than once a day. Another neighbour has spoken to the one coming in and I believe has tried to get a message to the owners about the dog crying - although if they’re abroad, as I suspect, there’s not much they can do even if they wanted to.

So they will know their dog is in distress and hopefully make some other kind of arrangement from afar? I really don’t know. I just hope they’ve only gone for one week.

I didn’t want to immediately go for the nuclear option of swooping in and getting the dog removed, because although this current situation is horrible she (the dog) looks well cared for in general although I never see them walk her, she just gets put in the garden to do her business. Thank fuck they’ve got a garden, eh?

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PrimaryBufferPanel · 19/08/2024 15:31

To the person who went away for a week and left their cat outside to fend for itself: you’re disgusting.

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MrTiddlesTheCat · 19/08/2024 15:57

SummerSplashing · 19/08/2024 13:31

@MrTiddlesTheCat

ehere do you live, I think I'd like it there 😊

Sweden. We had a massive problem with people leaving cats and buggering off on holiday. So now all cats have to be chipped and on the government register and have to be checked on every 24 hours if you're away.

HamBagelNoCheese · 19/08/2024 17:50

HoneyLimesBlossom · 19/08/2024 12:49

@HamBagelNoCheese well please don’t take ‘offence’ but BUGGER off then! People like me and my types of helpers and darling doggies haven’t got time for time wasters like you Barbara.

Ah OK, you've over egged the pudding now. Less try-hard next time. 8/10 for effort, 2/10 for execution.

Maddy70 · 19/08/2024 17:54

They havent abandoned ot. They have a dog walker feeder coming in

I would speak with them and tell them its howling all day

The rspca wont be interested as it ia being looked after albeit struggling with the separation

You could offer to have it overnight?

Grammarnut · 19/08/2024 21:30

Starlight1979 · 19/08/2024 12:25

This is the equivalent of those shit dog owners who leave their dog home alone / in a crate for 8-9 hours a day and claim that they're "fine". Guess it helps to ease their guilty conscience.

A cat should not be left to fend for itself. It should have access to shelter and someone coming in with food and to clear litter trays. Honestly!

Grammarnut · 19/08/2024 21:31

WiddlinDiddlin · 19/08/2024 11:33

In kennels, she'd not be forced to toilet indoors - she'd have some sort of company on and off through the day - she'd almost certainly get a run around or a walk - she'd be fed twice a day - the kennel run area would be cleaned several times a day.

I don't know how you can say her owners are not being cruel - the dog is in distress and they have caused this by leaving her with insufficient/inappropriate care.

That is cruel - whether its because they genuinely don't know, whether she's in kennels or not, isn't relevant. By their action or lack of action they're causing unecessary suffering.

But she is not abandoned. Someone is looking after her. You may think it is inappropriate. Maybe the owners do not - or are trying to end separation anxiety. Why not offer to have the dog for them since you are so upset. Certainly tell them she was howling all day, when they return.

Grammarnut · 19/08/2024 21:35

SummerSplashing · 19/08/2024 13:17

@Grammarnut

Dont be ridiculous, of course the neighbours are being cruel.

no dog would be happy being shut in (with its own shit) while the owners go on holiday, being fed once a day & company for 20 minutes.

Even your daughter has more sense.

not all cockapoos are highly strung & anxious either.

Oh dear. Yes, my DD obviously care more about her dog. But she is very well-off and can pay a dogwalker several times a week and for her to board the dog if they go away i.e. for 2 weeks.
Perhaps the neighbours cannot afford this. And the dog won't be in its own poo. If it's taken out after being fed then it will have a motion. Are you sure the carer only comes once a day btw?

KhakiShaker · 19/08/2024 22:09

Grammarnut · 19/08/2024 21:35

Oh dear. Yes, my DD obviously care more about her dog. But she is very well-off and can pay a dogwalker several times a week and for her to board the dog if they go away i.e. for 2 weeks.
Perhaps the neighbours cannot afford this. And the dog won't be in its own poo. If it's taken out after being fed then it will have a motion. Are you sure the carer only comes once a day btw?

If the owners can’t afford proper care for the dog then they shouldn’t own one! Someone popping in 20 mins a day (or even twice a day) is NOT proper care for any dog.

When we go away our dog has a live-in sitter. £40 per day. Budgeted into the cost of owning a dog.

and for the person saying they left their cat outside for a week, you must be a troll. I can’t believe anyone would actually admit to doing that and not be ashamed.

JustCleaningtheBBQ · 19/08/2024 22:24

DonnaBanana · 19/08/2024 09:38

I just went away for a week and left my cat outside. Came back he’s happy as Larry. Animals can adapt if you let them after all they come from nature.

My neighbour did this. By his own choosing, the cat now lives with us.

YourElatedLimeShark · 19/08/2024 22:30

I work with dogs. I explicitly refuse to tend to dogs who are left alone overnight. We tell clients it’s due to insurance. But actually it’s because it’s immoral.

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 19/08/2024 23:11

@Grammarnut
I'm not sure that you know any more about caring for a dog than the OP's neighbours . Do you really think that the way to end separation anxiety in a dog is to leave it pretty much alone for a week? And as for OP's neighbours not being able to afford dog boarding when on their holiday - if that's the case they either shouldn't have a dog or shouldn't go on holiday . And a good kennels will let dogs have a good run around in a field a couple of times a day, and will be regularly checked and given human interaction as well as feeding.

Copperoliverbear · 19/08/2024 23:57

Please call the rspca, this dog isn't well cared for it has been left virtually alone and is never walked, not socialised with other dogs, that is not well cared for

Please call the rspca or police.
I'm heartbroken for the poor thing, he deserves a better life

WhereDoWeGoFromHereBill · 20/08/2024 00:34

BettyBardMacDonald · 19/08/2024 11:30

I wish there had been a trigger warning; this is extremely distressing.

The thread title wasn't enough of a warning for you??

You want a "trigger warning" too?

FFS

KendraTheVampyreSlayer · 20/08/2024 00:44

My god! I can't understand people who do this! How can anyone be so cruel to leave a poor dog alone like that? I wouldn't go anywhere unless I knew my beloved pooch was being looked after. Really hope you can get some help for the poor thing. 😢