Can’t just be me who is sick of the moaning about the private school VAT and winter fuel payments

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The moaning about them seems to be never ending. So tone death and indulgent on both counts. Not sure which is worse. A friends mum was ranting on social media earlier about winter fuel payments being stopped and how “worried about being cold” she was. Bad news is Lynn you haven’t needed to work since 1989, married to an oil exec and have had lots of the good life. I’m sure all of your Florida holidays keep you warm enough!

Bright children can get on anywhere, my siblings and l went to a comprehensive. We all have a couple of degrees, one of us has a PhD so it didn’t hold us back too much in life. Before anyone comes at it from the neurodiversity angle then l am and l wouldn’t be surprised if my younger sibling isn’t

Because the alternative is less acceptable in a civilised society. People will live their lives as they choose and be as frugal or extravagant as they wish. If they end up with no money and can't afford heat and food the welfare state has to provide it, or they will die.
The same as if someone has ten children and can't afford to keep them, the state will ensure those children have a roof over their heads and there is a subsistence income.
Government cuts have reduced the level of help to the bare minimun as it is, with charity picking up the slack, but the state can't withdraw all help on the basis of 'fairness'.
As much as that might grind your gears there is no viable alternative, as society cannot punish its less frugal citizens by allowing them to starve or freeze to death.

Have you heard of Reading the thread before posting?

I was replying to the pp who was advocating no support for the feckless worker who goes into retirement with no additional pension, in their world, these people would get nothing.

Also HB has, in almost all cases been replaced by UC for new claimants, its been frozen for 4 years, recently increased but still below market rents.

It is a challenge, there is not much if an incentive for low to middle earners to be frugal and save, as they know the government will pick up the pieces.
But if they didn't, women would be disadvantaged more, as historically men were the higher earners, sometimes controlled the finances. My grandparents both had decent jobs, but my grandad drank and smoked away the lot, apart from small amounts that my grandma managed to hide away from her 'household allowance'. Through no fault of her own, she would have been in a mess if the government hadn't supported her after he passed away. My Dad gave her what he could once he started working, but that wouldn't have been enough to live on. But equally I get the frustration of hard working people, that they are having to clear up other people's messes.

Housing benefit is the benefit claimed by pensioners for help with rent. The only time a pensioner would claim Universal credit is if they have a partner who is under state pension age. And local authority housing allowances went up in April.

There is noone she can move in with. There is no room here for her my house is a 2 bed with 3 children having to share a room and tbh we don't get on and I'd rather gauge my eyes out then have to live with her.
My sister is in a very unstable relationship constantly moving in and out of the mans home and couldnt have her and my other sister is currently sofa surfing and has no where to have her because she doesn't have anywhere herself.

My mum didn't save for the future because she (naively) believed her and my father were life long and she gave her up her career to be a stay at home mum and raise us because that is what they both wanted, except my Dad then did one when she was in her 60s.

Who is this Charles Amos prat. Never heard of him before.

Yep I wonder how many prophecies in this thread came true And if it did put pressure on social care as predicted,
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/money-matters/3479693-Changes-to-Pension-Credit

Who???

In the Talk TV clip above

Ah right, one of those ‘individualists’ who basically has a comfy life and doesn’t want pay tax… got it…

yet another example of why we should probably get rid of the private school
system entirely…