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How much would it cost to completely redo this house?

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VivienneGlee · 16/08/2024 15:53

Ball park obviously.

Dh and I are relocating further North. Disappointed with what is out there. Dh promised me a larger house but we’re not really looking at that much of an upgrade in reality.

Never thought I would be open to a project but am now considering.

Very roughly - how much do you reckon it would cost to redo this house.

I’ve come up with £200k based on nothing.

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/146908985#/media?id=media0&ref=photoCollage&channel=RES_BUY

I would put the kitchen and bathrooms on 0% finance

Check out this 5 bedroom house for sale on Rightmove

5 bedroom house for sale in Willes Road, Leamington Spa, CV31 for £900,000. Marketed by Crabb Curtis Property Services, Leamington Spa

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/146908985#/media?id=media0&ref=photoCollage&channel=RES_BUY

OP posts:
D20 · 16/08/2024 18:04

Wow OP. Can I come and live there with you?

On the electrics and roof issue I suspect neither will be an issue with the installation of solar panels. You wouldn’t put them up on a roof that needed repair and feed into electric that needed upgrading. Most of the rooms look like a lick of paint would do. The kitchen needs doing but you might be able to get something freestanding and hand made by a joiner to save on costs?

AugustAlready · 16/08/2024 18:14

VivienneGlee · 16/08/2024 16:18

Oh never readied there were specialist suppliers needed for grade II property. Yikes

@VivienneGlee if you don't understand the grade 2 listing, it'll cost you your stable MH.

it will also cost you loads & take 'fucking forever'.

Dont do it to yourself.

SurpriseOzzy · 16/08/2024 18:16

Leam Spa is not cheap for trades (it’s not North either lol). I’d say that house has a lot of neglect and lot wrong with it. You’re looking North of £350k (no pun intended there!).

AugustAlready · 16/08/2024 18:20

Bideshi · 16/08/2024 17:46

Really? I've lived in 3 listed buildings- all eighteenth century or earlier, all 2 (England) or B (Scotland) and have never done that. Obviously the main consideration is replacing like with like. But there is flexibility. I was supposed to replace my roof with Westmoreland slates but they're hard to get hold of and eyewateringly expensive. I used a Brazilian lookalike. It's fine.
I've got 4 separate listing building on this property, plus plasterwork and fireplaces internally listed. Also got an Ikea kitchen - perfectly fine. And what's getting the grounds sorted to do with a listing? There will be local protocols for exterior modifications and paint colours etc but you certainly don't need permission for every internal modification.
My main worry about that beautiful house is the settlement crack over the area where two rooms have been knocked together. A lot of the stuff is cosmetic and getting rid of all the crap.

@Bideshi

you got lucky with you area/assessor.

one thing one of my friends battled with for 5 years was replacing the stairs down to their cellar. They were (obviously) very old wood, and more like a ladder than stairs. They had 2 small boys & the door was off the kitchen. Planning would not accept actual stairs be put in - at all. Even though they were never seen and even though it was an incredibly unsafe way to access the basement.

and the stuff on the exterior was completely batshit & ££££££££

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GreenPoppy · 16/08/2024 18:23

What a beautiful house.

Even if I could afford the house and the renovation, I'd never buy it, as ongoing maintenance costs would be huge. Imagine replacing a roof that size.

ArthurChristmas22 · 16/08/2024 18:31

I live in a grade 2 listed building. I assume some that are making comments here don't. You don't need specialist contractors or builders. You may need to ensure you meet some requirements. It depends on what it's listed for? I suspect retaining fires, floors, some of the features. There has been some work which suggests a few things. It has a new boiler but the old radiators remain. Are they part of the listing? Some of the windows are new, again, have the listing retained them? My old original windows are. They're lovely but cold. It's beautiful. Depends on whether you are willing to do some work. My assessment is: garden needs clearing and some attention, it's very cluttered that would go on sale, walls etc look solid so mainly decoration. Key areas I'd look for - electrical inspection dates as if the old wiring is still in it's ££ and very disruptive and impactful, heating, insurance costs, the cellar has damp may need a cell tank putting in. Otherwise, doesn't look that scary to me but we renovated a listed house with significant feature requirements to be kept, no heating, no wiring, no running water. It was interesting for a few years. Was it worth it? Absolutely.

NancyBellaDonna · 16/08/2024 18:42

What a beautiful house. And what a sad and sorry state it has got into. It is doable but it's going to cost more than £200k.

First of all, how are you funding the project? Do you have cash? Is it mortgageable?
Second: Will you need specialist planning permission for any alterations (interior as well as exterior)?
Third: it's near a river that floods - will you be able to get insurance that is not astronomic.
Fourth: Access. Parking for the army of contractors who will become part of your life for the next couple of years. Include rubbish disposal, scaffolding etc. Is there access at the back? PP mentioned yellow lines at the front?

You need a good surveyor. Maybe ask other homeowners in the immediate area locally what renovations they had to do. I don't like the look of the cracks in the ceilings of nearly every room. I can see damp penetration in most of the rooms. The flooring on the ground floors looks broken and uneven in places - I suspect settlement/subsidence. The cellar is a total disaster. The roof slates have been patched it might need total replacing. Is the solar panelling still viable? The end wall and chimney stacks need attention. The whole house might need repointing and re-rendering with specialist materials. If you have to replace the windows they have to be wood and matched like-for-like on a Grade 2 listed.

It will be very hard work and a labour of love but worth it in the end. My guess £450-500k

Errors · 16/08/2024 18:52

I have no idea OP but by god, what a stunning house! Bags of potential!!

Please buy it and regularly update us on your progress so I can live vicariously through you Wink

Errors · 16/08/2024 18:54

VivienneGlee · 16/08/2024 17:16

Oh really? We lived in Warwick city centre for 6 months and visited Leamington a few times for dinner. I really liked it.

What makes it a dump in your opinion?

My definition of dump is probably affected by the fact we live in a very trendy but very ugly (to me) part of London.

Leamington is not a dump OP, ignore that comment.

Errors · 16/08/2024 18:56

ArthurChristmas22 · 16/08/2024 18:31

I live in a grade 2 listed building. I assume some that are making comments here don't. You don't need specialist contractors or builders. You may need to ensure you meet some requirements. It depends on what it's listed for? I suspect retaining fires, floors, some of the features. There has been some work which suggests a few things. It has a new boiler but the old radiators remain. Are they part of the listing? Some of the windows are new, again, have the listing retained them? My old original windows are. They're lovely but cold. It's beautiful. Depends on whether you are willing to do some work. My assessment is: garden needs clearing and some attention, it's very cluttered that would go on sale, walls etc look solid so mainly decoration. Key areas I'd look for - electrical inspection dates as if the old wiring is still in it's ££ and very disruptive and impactful, heating, insurance costs, the cellar has damp may need a cell tank putting in. Otherwise, doesn't look that scary to me but we renovated a listed house with significant feature requirements to be kept, no heating, no wiring, no running water. It was interesting for a few years. Was it worth it? Absolutely.

Am I right in thinking that OP can find out (possibly online) via the local council what the building is listed for??

Missed it OP but will it be a cash purchase or mortgage? If mortgage, is it classed as habitable? Can you look at financing the renovation via a bridging loan or similar? Have you been to view it?

BigWillyLittleTodger · 16/08/2024 18:56

Flossyts · 16/08/2024 16:07

Had to giggle when you said north and it was Leamington Spa. That is a very large house. We live in a six bed and it knocks me for 6 how much more everything costs.
you’d never know with houses like this. Could be £100, could be 200. You’d want to check the bones of it first with a very comprehensive survey. Cosmetic work - kitchen 45k 2 bathrooms £20k, flooring 20k, painting and decorating (including things like light fixture curtain rails etc) 10k. Of course you could get cheaper ie howdens but I’m not sure you’d want to in a house like that. I’ve no idea of costs down south, but up north that would be a mid range estimate.

I think these figures are a very low estimate.

VivienneGlee · 16/08/2024 18:58

Errors · 16/08/2024 18:52

I have no idea OP but by god, what a stunning house! Bags of potential!!

Please buy it and regularly update us on your progress so I can live vicariously through you Wink

Believe me I wish I could. Just found a barn conversion that is move in ready and much more realistic. And much less special.

OP posts:
VivienneGlee · 16/08/2024 19:00

Errors · 16/08/2024 18:56

Am I right in thinking that OP can find out (possibly online) via the local council what the building is listed for??

Missed it OP but will it be a cash purchase or mortgage? If mortgage, is it classed as habitable? Can you look at financing the renovation via a bridging loan or similar? Have you been to view it?

After the sale of our flat we will have around £300k. Dh and I will take out a £600k mortgage at the very most. Less is preferable. Want to take the pressure of ourselves

OP posts:
Errors · 16/08/2024 19:02

Sorry for posting again OP. I’m a bit excitable - ha!
Have you thought about the possibility of gaining planning for a second house in the rear??
Looks like it wouldn’t be completely out of the realms of possibility when comparing it to the neighbouring properties.

If you could find a way of financing it, building a second home and selling it may go a fair way towards paying for the renovations on the first??

Ignore me if this is a stupid suggestion 😂

Teddleshon · 16/08/2024 19:04

We've done similar projects like this 3 times, all with Grade II listed properties. Internal and cosmetic changes really generally aren't such a big deal. I would absolutely go for it but it's impossible to give an estimate without a surveyor/ builder/ architect

tishtishboom · 16/08/2024 19:05

Have owned and renovated listed properties and several non-listed old properties. £200k won't touch the sides of that.

Errors · 16/08/2024 19:06

VivienneGlee · 16/08/2024 18:58

Believe me I wish I could. Just found a barn conversion that is move in ready and much more realistic. And much less special.

Ah that’s a shame. I’m off to purchase some scratch cards anyway… if luck is on my side I might buy it 😂

TheBunyip · 16/08/2024 19:08

Errors · 16/08/2024 18:56

Am I right in thinking that OP can find out (possibly online) via the local council what the building is listed for??

Missed it OP but will it be a cash purchase or mortgage? If mortgage, is it classed as habitable? Can you look at financing the renovation via a bridging loan or similar? Have you been to view it?

If a building is listed it’s all listed. No such thing as an interior being listed or not. The whole lot is listed, even the ugly 50s extension, and the nasty 70s windows. It’s all listed.

Hemiola · 16/08/2024 19:14

Stunning house. I love Leamington and that area. A family used to live on that road.Warks is expensive though. Just for a ball park figure, we fully gutted and renovated our house, half the size of that one and that was around £100k and a lot of that we did on the cheap or ourselves.

Happy house hunting!

Woodchiponthewall · 16/08/2024 19:21

That is honestly one of the loveliest houses I’ve ever seen!

OldCrocks · 16/08/2024 19:27

VivienneGlee · 16/08/2024 16:24

What is a James’ Tower. Google came up with nothing

Presumably a garden retreat created for a child called James?

It's a beautiful house but everyone's right - an utter money pit. What a shame, OP. You have great taste.

RomComPhooey · 16/08/2024 19:34

AugustAlready · 16/08/2024 18:20

@Bideshi

you got lucky with you area/assessor.

one thing one of my friends battled with for 5 years was replacing the stairs down to their cellar. They were (obviously) very old wood, and more like a ladder than stairs. They had 2 small boys & the door was off the kitchen. Planning would not accept actual stairs be put in - at all. Even though they were never seen and even though it was an incredibly unsafe way to access the basement.

and the stuff on the exterior was completely batshit & ££££££££

.

We’re only in a conservation area with the front elevations on our street subject to more stringent planning controls. The number of neighbours who’ve had to battle with the council planners over doing loft conversions is no joke. Even on our relatively short street people have had different advice from the same planning office & e.g. had to remove velux windows to get their building certificate, even though houses done around the same time were allowed to keep theirs. It’s mind-bending and one of the reasons we haven’t converted ours.

RomComPhooey · 16/08/2024 19:38

VivienneGlee · 16/08/2024 19:00

After the sale of our flat we will have around £300k. Dh and I will take out a £600k mortgage at the very most. Less is preferable. Want to take the pressure of ourselves

Yeah, do that. Less special, but a whole lot less of a headache. That has value too.