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How much would it cost to completely redo this house?

91 replies

VivienneGlee · 16/08/2024 15:53

Ball park obviously.

Dh and I are relocating further North. Disappointed with what is out there. Dh promised me a larger house but we’re not really looking at that much of an upgrade in reality.

Never thought I would be open to a project but am now considering.

Very roughly - how much do you reckon it would cost to redo this house.

I’ve come up with £200k based on nothing.

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/146908985#/media?id=media0&ref=photoCollage&channel=RES_BUY

I would put the kitchen and bathrooms on 0% finance

Check out this 5 bedroom house for sale on Rightmove

5 bedroom house for sale in Willes Road, Leamington Spa, CV31 for £900,000. Marketed by Crabb Curtis Property Services, Leamington Spa

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/146908985#/media?id=media0&ref=photoCollage&channel=RES_BUY

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Onehappymam · 16/08/2024 16:45

@Digimoor has nailed it.

You could throw £500K at that easily.

We’re in a B listed house (Scotland), renovating a 4 bed Victorian semi. We’ve spent £200K and it’s still not finished… We budgeted for half that. I dread to think what the final cost will be. We’re mortgaged to the hilt and desperately scrimping and saving every month. Everything has to be traditional materials and finding workmen who are qualified to do this is both time consuming and costly. This is our 3rd reno, so we’re experienced, but costs have skyrocketed in the last 5 years.

It has sucked the life out of us!

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 16/08/2024 16:47

I didn’t bother getting past the double yellow lines outside.

Busy road, no parking. No way.

noideabutstilltrying · 16/08/2024 16:49

If you were to get a good survey to find the problems with the property.

You'd also be working with an emptier house than it is now.

You would need to check for tree preservation orders before tackling the garden.

I would budget £300,000.

The listing is an issue when it comes to replacing doors and windows and if the roof needs work.

MrsMoastyToasty · 16/08/2024 16:51

I don't know anything about the house or area but who has edited the photos? They all look like paintings.

IncompleteSenten · 16/08/2024 16:53

VivienneGlee · 16/08/2024 16:24

What is a James’ Tower. Google came up with nothing

It looks like a fancy shed they had built at some point.

Rainydayinlondon · 16/08/2024 16:55

Can’t really see what needs doing… it looks wonderful!

Mosaic123 · 16/08/2024 16:55

I'd want to have £500k to hand to do it properly.

It's absolutely wonderful (or could be) but just think of the heating bills? It would cost a ton to run day to day plus you'd probably need a cleaner.

Flossyts · 16/08/2024 16:57

VivienneGlee · 16/08/2024 16:09

In my defence I said further north which is accurate!

Okay those numbers aren’t terrifying. But like you said there could be all manner of problems not discernible to the eye.

Shame. Lucky sod who ends up living there.

Edited

Sorry- didn’t see the listed part. £££ is anyone’s guess- blank cheque time I’m afraid

Wheresmytrainers · 16/08/2024 16:58

It's absolutely beautiful so I can see why you love it. However there are definite red flags. The listing could be a problem, ( have renovated a Grade II property in the past) and planning/conservation will be very careful about what you do. I am guessing it will need a full rewire and re plumb as a minimum. Then there's the roof... if that's not sound it will cost a small fortune. Heating a place that size will be very expensive but there may be ways to put something environmentally friendly in place, (not necessarily any cheaper at the offset though). Cosmetically I am sure a lot of that could be done without professional involvement. I would say that £200k is not a bad guess but any hidden issues could send the costs soaring. Gorgeous place though and could be amazing 😍

WhatMe123 · 16/08/2024 16:58

In my experience projects like that always take more cash than what you initially thought as there's always hidden gems waiting for you like rotten floor joists etc 🤦🏻‍♀️

ItsAlrightDarling · 16/08/2024 16:58

Leamington Spa may be north of you but it’s also a pretty expensive town and not somewhere you’d really look at if cheap housing is your goal! Lovely house though, I live 5 mins away 😉. It looks like an absolute money pit to me

Scottishgirl85 · 16/08/2024 16:59

£400k easily if you're not doing any of it yourselves (and potentially more if roof needs doing). That's a money pit, it's the kind of house where you couldn't just stick in cheap kitchens and bathrooms and flooring. Everything would warrant glorious detail and high quality finish. It would be utterly stunning once done.

NAndJIsLockingDown · 16/08/2024 17:08

Leamington's a dump, wouldn't recommend.

KreedKafer · 16/08/2024 17:09

What an amazing house! Just gorgeous.

As others have said - the fact that it's listed is going to make it way, way more expensive to renovate than another property of that size, and you will also have much less choice over the work you do. There are some changes that you might want to make but wouldn't actually be allowed to.

Ifitaintgotnoswing · 16/08/2024 17:14

Haha
if my mum was buying the budget would start at £400k and end up being £600k+

Its listed - if windows needed doing that could be £50k+++ No cheap upvc 10 windows for a tenner type outfits
new roof if needed £50k easily
realistically I'd say £300k minimum assuming no horror stories and £450k for an amazing house, again assuming no horror stories.

VivienneGlee · 16/08/2024 17:16

NAndJIsLockingDown · 16/08/2024 17:08

Leamington's a dump, wouldn't recommend.

Oh really? We lived in Warwick city centre for 6 months and visited Leamington a few times for dinner. I really liked it.

What makes it a dump in your opinion?

My definition of dump is probably affected by the fact we live in a very trendy but very ugly (to me) part of London.

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MouseMama · 16/08/2024 17:16

Think you’d need to work out what type of renovation you want to do. A complete rewire with new plumbing, new wall insulation and new windows would be LOADS more than £200k but if you are talking about a bit of redecorating and a new kitchen then your money will go a lot further.

We are doing our renovation in phases and every time I get a quote for new windows/doors for the next bit it’s £70-100k alone. They’re nice windows but not heritage ones which are more expensive.

ItsAlrightDarling · 16/08/2024 17:19

VivienneGlee · 16/08/2024 17:16

Oh really? We lived in Warwick city centre for 6 months and visited Leamington a few times for dinner. I really liked it.

What makes it a dump in your opinion?

My definition of dump is probably affected by the fact we live in a very trendy but very ugly (to me) part of London.

It’s not a dump. It’s a perfectly nice town which, like anywhere, has some nice bits and some less nice bits. Compared to a lot of towns in the Midlands it’s positively a utopia!

Thethruththewholetruth · 16/08/2024 17:25

Yeah we don’t live far from that house, Leamington spa for some reason is an expensive town to buy in. Builders are £££ round here, I’d say 300-500k for that renovation. Also parking would be a pain and there’s always druggies in Jephson gardens!

NAndJIsLockingDown · 16/08/2024 17:25

VivienneGlee · 16/08/2024 17:16

Oh really? We lived in Warwick city centre for 6 months and visited Leamington a few times for dinner. I really liked it.

What makes it a dump in your opinion?

My definition of dump is probably affected by the fact we live in a very trendy but very ugly (to me) part of London.

Large homeless population and far too many unkempt student properties for what is really just a medium sized town. Unclean air.

RainbowsAreNotTheOnlyFruit · 16/08/2024 17:25

That house has been left to rot. Grade II Listed on the basis of an exterior visual inspection only. Lots of others on the same road with the same designation so it might be a local amenity designation. Interior alterations might be okay but you’d have to check before you commit to buying it.
From experience, unless the fabric of a house that age has been fully and properly maintained just don’t; you’ll spend £x10 doing the unseen essentials (heat, electrics, structural, landscaping, maintenance) as against £ for the stuff that’s on show (decorating, furnishings, bathrooms and kitchen)
mot can be heartbreaking to pay out a fortune and still not have a house that you’re comfortable and happy in.

Unless you can commit to changing that wreck to this ( link ) and afford it- I wouldn’t. I’d run very fast in the opposite direction.
assets.savills.com/properties/GBBARSCLV233617/CLV233617_RPT24061845.PDF

alwaysnapping · 16/08/2024 17:34

Inbox me OP If you need a recommendation for a good surveyor who covers the area!

IMustDoMoreExercise · 16/08/2024 17:37

YellowphantGrey · 16/08/2024 16:01

Could be 200k could be less.

It looks like one of those houses where you think it's ok but once you start work, you're going come across more and more problems.

It doesn't look like a house where you will do the work and be done, something will always need doing.

And Leamington isn't in the North.

She didn't say it was.

She said further North.

Anonym00se · 16/08/2024 17:38

We spent £250k renovating a similar house that wasn’t listed and was smaller (3,500 sq ft). I think you’ll have to double your budget and then add a chunk on top.

Bideshi · 16/08/2024 17:46

TomatoSandwiches · 16/08/2024 16:11

It's a grade two listed building, it's not as simple as popping in a Howdens kitchen via their regular fitters, you'd need the grounds sorted first, special permissions for nearly every remedial piece of work, a specialist architect, specialist suppliers for products... some likely to be sourced internationally.

It's blank cheque work and best part of 2 years work there.

Really? I've lived in 3 listed buildings- all eighteenth century or earlier, all 2 (England) or B (Scotland) and have never done that. Obviously the main consideration is replacing like with like. But there is flexibility. I was supposed to replace my roof with Westmoreland slates but they're hard to get hold of and eyewateringly expensive. I used a Brazilian lookalike. It's fine.
I've got 4 separate listing building on this property, plus plasterwork and fireplaces internally listed. Also got an Ikea kitchen - perfectly fine. And what's getting the grounds sorted to do with a listing? There will be local protocols for exterior modifications and paint colours etc but you certainly don't need permission for every internal modification.
My main worry about that beautiful house is the settlement crack over the area where two rooms have been knocked together. A lot of the stuff is cosmetic and getting rid of all the crap.