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To think having an indoor cat is cruel?

696 replies

Catnope · 16/08/2024 14:31

I was looking after my mother’s cat last week - feeding him while she was on holiday and changing the litter tray - and I felt so incredibly sorry for the cat. It’s not the first time I’ve looked after him for her, and not the first time I’ve thought that.

What a shit life for the cat.

Of course I don’t like the idea of cats killing wildlife out there, but to be a prisoner indoors 100% of the time your whole life?!

It’s cruel. Right?! Just me?

Of course I was nothing but lovely to my mother and took good care of the cat. My mother doesn’t let him out because she fears he’ll get stolen or run over. She lives on a quiet and safe street, so I don’t think anyone will want to steal him. At this point, I also think he wouldn’t have a clue how to kill a bird.

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Cattery · 18/08/2024 18:57

Dreamskies · 18/08/2024 18:44

Ah, sorry. Yes, my suffering is “pointless”. I’ll remember that in future. I’d best let whoever it was that gets irate about their neighbours basketball noise know that they’re not to be angry anymore either. It’s not illegal to play basketball after all. Thanks for being so concerned ☺️

I’m nowhere near “concerned”. You’re slightly nuts if you’re now comparing cats to basket balls. Baffling

Canthave2manycats · 18/08/2024 19:05

Cattery · 18/08/2024 17:08

Indoor cats may have a longer lifespan but my God, they’ve been miserable

My cats mustn't have got that memo then...

Our last cat was 20+ when he died. He lived most of his life outdoors and as he got older and slower, he preferred to be indoors. I have never known a cat to fight for life as tenaciously as he did! He loved his life with us.

Canthave2manycats · 18/08/2024 19:09

Dreamskies · 18/08/2024 17:22

Because I’m above the “if you can’t beat them, join them” mentality, I can’t be bothered to look after a cat, I’m allergic to cats, I have better things to spend my money on, I have no desire to torture wildlife, and I shouldn’t have to spend my time and money on a cat just to stop someone else’s cat from going where it shouldn’t be.

Would you like any more reasons? 😊

Why do you hate cats so much?!!! You might consider therapy? That attitude is not healthy. I don't know how you can hate one species of creature so intensely and like others. It's not rational.

I'm allergic to cats. I've got three, two of them long-haired. I will never be without a cat.

Sounreasonable · 18/08/2024 19:10

sunsetsandboardwalks · 18/08/2024 18:49

Well, quite Grin

I mean, maybe I'm a bit odd, but I'm going to trust my vet who has over 40 years experience and who actually knows my cat over some random stranger on the internet, lol.

I’ve had no faith in self styled ‘cat specialists’ since the last one I met told me my cat was deeply unhappy because we were calling her Betty, but the cat had told her she should have been named Dorothy 😂.

Sounreasonable · 18/08/2024 19:12

Canthave2manycats · 18/08/2024 19:05

My cats mustn't have got that memo then...

Our last cat was 20+ when he died. He lived most of his life outdoors and as he got older and slower, he preferred to be indoors. I have never known a cat to fight for life as tenaciously as he did! He loved his life with us.

We have had 20+ year old free roaming cats too.

Canthave2manycats · 18/08/2024 19:14

Dreamskies · 18/08/2024 18:14

If they left your property unsupervised then you can’t possibly know what they’ve done.

I do understand the nature of cats, but that shouldn’t be inflicted on the world.

I do. They never showed any signs of predatory behaviour. It just wasn't their nature.

Canthave2manycats · 18/08/2024 19:17

Dreamskies · 18/08/2024 18:37

Don’t be so ridiculous, I shouldn’t have to keep my doors closed and fail to enjoy my property just because you’re selfish. Nor should I have to spend money on things that don’t even work. Pet owners should take responsibility, or not have pets. They don’t deserve them.

Just because you keep whining on about it, isn't going to make it so. It was your responsibility to keep your pet safe!

Dreamskies · 18/08/2024 19:18

@Cattery ah, you don’t stretch to sarcasm I see 😉 and the basketball was to illustrate other ways people have shit times with neighbours, again right over your head it seems.

@Canthave2manycats so because I have no desire to own a cat, that means I hate them? Where do you make all this shit up? Your head must be absolute chaos with all the invented crap in there! If you want to suffer from constant allergic reaction that’s up to you, but I don’t. I don’t want any pets, that’s my right to choose. Batshit, honestly 🙄

And no, you can’t prove that. It might be true, but you certainly can’t say for sure as you’re not responsible enough to know.

Canthave2manycats · 18/08/2024 19:18

Dreamskies · 18/08/2024 18:28

So are most of the owners on here 🤣😂

check out @grapesstrawberriesplease post - she seems like she has genuine knowledge and a factual and balanced view tbh.

I don't need to be told to read anyone's posts, thank you. I am reading them all.

Canthave2manycats · 18/08/2024 19:20

Dreamskies · 18/08/2024 19:18

@Cattery ah, you don’t stretch to sarcasm I see 😉 and the basketball was to illustrate other ways people have shit times with neighbours, again right over your head it seems.

@Canthave2manycats so because I have no desire to own a cat, that means I hate them? Where do you make all this shit up? Your head must be absolute chaos with all the invented crap in there! If you want to suffer from constant allergic reaction that’s up to you, but I don’t. I don’t want any pets, that’s my right to choose. Batshit, honestly 🙄

And no, you can’t prove that. It might be true, but you certainly can’t say for sure as you’re not responsible enough to know.

I am not the one writing crazily obsessive posts over and over again. Your hatred towards cats comes across loud and clear, deny it as you will.

Canthave2manycats · 18/08/2024 19:24

Sounreasonable · 18/08/2024 18:38

Bloody hell you have had bad luck.

We don’t live in the middle of nowhere- but at the back we have a backyard then a lane where the only vehicle is the bin lorry once a week, then sort of common land- cats can roam a long way without coming to a fast/busy/real road.

My current ones can’t be arsed to leave the yard though.

I grew up in a very rural area but still lost cats to the roads. When I got my first two cats when we got married and bought our house, we kept them indoors. One lived until just short of 17, the other just over. We always said we had two planned and two 'accidents' lol - the 3rd cat was a stray who moved in and the 4th was left behind by his bastard owners when they moved house and left him behind. #3 was run over by a car but survived, and #4 was the one that died from FIV.

The old boy lived a lot of his life outside. He used to regularly wake me up during the night when he was fighting. Yes, it was always him!!

Canthave2manycats · 18/08/2024 19:28

Dreamskies · 18/08/2024 19:18

@Cattery ah, you don’t stretch to sarcasm I see 😉 and the basketball was to illustrate other ways people have shit times with neighbours, again right over your head it seems.

@Canthave2manycats so because I have no desire to own a cat, that means I hate them? Where do you make all this shit up? Your head must be absolute chaos with all the invented crap in there! If you want to suffer from constant allergic reaction that’s up to you, but I don’t. I don’t want any pets, that’s my right to choose. Batshit, honestly 🙄

And no, you can’t prove that. It might be true, but you certainly can’t say for sure as you’re not responsible enough to know.

The actual irony of you using the term "batshit". I think you should reread your posts and calm down.

Dreamskies · 18/08/2024 19:38

@Canthave2manycats good to know that you speak for me now, and can read my mind 😂 🙄

Not ironic at all, just factual, like everything else I’ve posted. You just don’t like what shows you in a bad light.

ShuvieTupya · 18/08/2024 19:41
cat sitting GIF

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Dreamskies · 18/08/2024 19:42

ShuvieTupya · 18/08/2024 19:41

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If only you could be bothered 🤣🤣

Canthave2manycats · 18/08/2024 19:44

Dreamskies · 18/08/2024 19:38

@Canthave2manycats good to know that you speak for me now, and can read my mind 😂 🙄

Not ironic at all, just factual, like everything else I’ve posted. You just don’t like what shows you in a bad light.

It's not me coming across in a bad light!!

I wouldn't want to be anywhere near your mind.

theGooHasGone · 18/08/2024 19:44

Never seen a cat attacked by a raccoon or hit by a car, OP?

Cats are better off living indoors.

ShuvieTupya · 18/08/2024 19:46

theGooHasGone · 18/08/2024 19:44

Never seen a cat attacked by a raccoon or hit by a car, OP?

Cats are better off living indoors.

Aint no racoons in this country.

Dreamskies · 18/08/2024 19:46

Canthave2manycats · 18/08/2024 19:44

It's not me coming across in a bad light!!

I wouldn't want to be anywhere near your mind.

The thing is, I have done… and am doing…. absolutely nothing 🙂 just living my life and sadly suffering the consequences of other peoples lack of care and responsibility. Definitely not me doing anything wrong to anyone at all. Just fed up of those who do.

HRTQueen · 18/08/2024 19:52

I have seen a cat that been hit by a car but as in the uk not attacked by a raccoon

I’ve heard on occasion dogs attacking cats but cats tend to make other animals fearful of them even when my cat was old and frail he would chase foxes away

there are dangers in the world you can’t protect pets from all dangers and they should be allowed access to the outside unless they are poorly themselves and have a real need to be kept indoors

it’s cruel and absolutely against their nature to be kept enclosed indoors

maltravers · 18/08/2024 20:01

I haven’t had a cat for years, but the neighbourhood cats are always walking along the walls, climbing things, sunning themselves in my garden etc. They are pets, but still have a full and free life, that is how a cat should be IMO.

Sounreasonable · 18/08/2024 20:07

Dreamskies · 18/08/2024 19:46

The thing is, I have done… and am doing…. absolutely nothing 🙂 just living my life and sadly suffering the consequences of other peoples lack of care and responsibility. Definitely not me doing anything wrong to anyone at all. Just fed up of those who do.

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You are the one who has had posts deleted (presumably because they broke talk guidelines).

Dreamskies · 18/08/2024 20:18

Sounreasonable · 18/08/2024 20:07

You are the one who has had posts deleted (presumably because they broke talk guidelines).

Clearly painting the picture of what happened to me, to illustrate to others how it feels, was too much for the snowflakes to take.

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 18/08/2024 20:22

So from this thread I discover

  1. @Dreamskies is perfectly reasonable and anyone who lets their cat out is a 'selfish bastard' or 'an outdoor cat nutter'
  2. @grapesstrawberriesplease Knows more about cats than anyone else in the whole world, including my vet (who actually has some real qualifications) and many cat charities. Presumably this is because she has a certificate and therefore I am not worthy of an opinion
  3. I have discovered that I am an utterly selfish bastard who knows nothing about cats, presumably because I have the temerity to disagree with these two fonts of wisdom, oh, and also I would be the worst neighbour in the world

Well since you two have both been insulting to me throughout this thread I asked one of my cats what she thought about randos on the Internet telling her to stay inside.
She responded
'fuck that idea you stupid twats'
Please note - she is outside 🙀. She hasn't caught fire, been run over by a number 22 bus, been fed poison by an arsehole, she also hasn't been swept away by a passing golden eagle or used as fox cub food by a cunning little vixen. She hasn't even wiped out any bird species yet this evening or murdered anyone's house pet.

Thought it was time to lighten the thread
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

To think having an indoor cat is cruel?
Dreamskies · 18/08/2024 20:24

@Grumpyoldpersonwithcats well it took you a while but you got there in the end!

I e discovered that you truly do live up to your name, given that even when I agreed with you, you still had a go at me 😂😂 so not sure it possible to actually keep you happy!