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For laughing and not helping him

77 replies

DecisionsDecisions321 · 15/08/2024 14:52

My DH has a friend. Let's call him 'John'. John cheated on his partner, she broke up with him. He moved alone into a rental owned by a relative of a family friend as the woman he cheated with stayed with her DH/partner as didn't want to break up her family. He spent the past year trying to avoid CMS. Gone self employed, hiding income, the works. So on paper he earns very little. He's also been blasting her on social media about bleeding him dry and being broke due to her CMS claim.

So today DH tells me he's had a message from John BEGGING to let him move in. The person he's renting from issued him with a section 21 and is trying to evict him (seen all his social media posts and is worried about him affording the rent when they rely on it as their retirement income!). He can't pass any of the affordability checks for anywhere else because he's newly self employed and made himself look like he earns next to nothing. While he has a significant deposit saved, no mortgage for same reason.

I started laughing, said absolutely not, it's a result of his own shitty actions. DH relayed it was a no from us, but I guess he blames me and hasn't learned his lesson. He's now posting on social media about friends being ruled by their wives and how his ex has left him destitute and homeless (despite his flashy car, posts from last months fancy holiday etc).

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Summerhillsquare · 15/08/2024 15:07

I think they call that rough justice.

Sounds like he's going to lose all his friends too.

HandShoe · 15/08/2024 15:10

Oh dear, what a pity, never mind …😂Serves ‘John’ right.

longdistanceclaraclara · 15/08/2024 15:11

Karma

DadJoke · 15/08/2024 15:12

While I think section 21 eviction notice are entirely wrong, especially if the LL is stalking his social media, this is a definite nope.

Whining about CMS, tax dodging and blaming women are red flags, too.

You'd have to have a heart of stone not to laugh.

redalex261 · 15/08/2024 15:14

I’m laughing. Prick deserves all he gets.

WeeOrcadian · 15/08/2024 15:15

Karma

I hope it continues to bite him in the arse

Greenhedge1 · 15/08/2024 15:16

Happy days🤣

Rosybud88 · 15/08/2024 15:17

It’s hilarious - karma karma karma.

buttonsB4 · 15/08/2024 15:17

So, basically, John's choices are to admit he has a higher income so he can get a rental/mortgage (in which case he has to - shock horror, contribute financially to the child he created 😱)

Or, keep lying about his financials so he doesn't have to pay maintenance and have no where to live?

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Too fucking right he got what he deserved.

That, John, is called Karma and it's spelt with a "Ha!" 😁

Doingtheboxerbeat · 15/08/2024 15:17

Every time a total dipshit like this gets his karma, an angel gets their wings and a promotion with decent extra pay 🤣.

This story has given me a warm glow 🤗.

DecisionsDecisions321 · 15/08/2024 15:18

DadJoke · 15/08/2024 15:12

While I think section 21 eviction notice are entirely wrong, especially if the LL is stalking his social media, this is a definite nope.

Whining about CMS, tax dodging and blaming women are red flags, too.

You'd have to have a heart of stone not to laugh.

Landlord wasn't stalking, they were someone who he/his family had on social media and would see his posts before he even started renting from them.

Wrong? Maybe. But if you were a landlord and you were seeing loads of posts that the person occupying your rental is broke and struggling to make rent I can see why they got nervous!

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AquaFurball · 15/08/2024 15:21

If he's saved up a sizeable deposit and is hiding it to avoid paying for his kids surely anyone with some common sense would at least say to LL they'd pay a year up front and buy some time, he's going to need to rent anyway. Dumb and arrogant, what a catch.

Karma was swift on this one though.

DecisionsDecisions321 · 15/08/2024 15:22

buttonsB4 · 15/08/2024 15:17

So, basically, John's choices are to admit he has a higher income so he can get a rental/mortgage (in which case he has to - shock horror, contribute financially to the child he created 😱)

Or, keep lying about his financials so he doesn't have to pay maintenance and have no where to live?

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Too fucking right he got what he deserved.

That, John, is called Karma and it's spelt with a "Ha!" 😁

But no one is going to believe he suddenly is earning loads more and can make payments. They want months of proof. So even if he goes down that route it's going to take a lot longer than the s21 gives him 🤣

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BMW6 · 15/08/2024 15:23

I wouldn't be able to hold back from replying to his SM lies and exposing him with the truth!

Your DH surely doesn't want such s dirtbag as a friend?

DadJoke · 15/08/2024 15:31

DecisionsDecisions321 · 15/08/2024 15:18

Landlord wasn't stalking, they were someone who he/his family had on social media and would see his posts before he even started renting from them.

Wrong? Maybe. But if you were a landlord and you were seeing loads of posts that the person occupying your rental is broke and struggling to make rent I can see why they got nervous!

Ah, thanks for the clarification.

I mean that while, in my view, using a Section 21 is dubious, I'm suggesting that it should not exist. I'd like to think if I was in that position I wouldn't kick someone out unless they stopped paying rent altogether.

But I don't want to divert the thread. I wouldn't want a misogynistic one-man pity-party on my sofa, either.

SevenMarshmallows · 15/08/2024 15:31

Yeah, I wouldn't be impressed by DH, either. Why did he even have to ask you? He should've turned down his lovely friend himself and not involved you at all. I'm assuming he used you as his easy excuse for not coming through with the cash—or would he have loaned/given John the money if it were entirely up to him?

Edit: Um, sorry, it wasn't a request for money, but rather for a place to stay... But the point still stands.

DadJoke · 15/08/2024 15:34

He could try cutting down on take-away coffee and avocado toast, though it doesn't sound like he's an avocado toast kind of guy.

Bumcake · 15/08/2024 15:42

Tough titty. That’s known as the consequences of your actions.

DecisionsDecisions321 · 15/08/2024 15:43

DH doesn't like the person he's become recently, but they have been friends since they were small. They've been friends the best part of four decades, with lots of supporting each other through hard times, so he is a bit soft when it comes to him. He said it was no from us both, didn't blame me. John clearly thinks all me though. I think the new posts may be final straw, and he's really been hoping it was a mid life crisis he'd come out of.

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SerendipityJane · 15/08/2024 15:46

Can't say I consider viewing a persons public profile and posts "stalking".

minou123 · 15/08/2024 15:46

You are not unreasonable at all.

In fact, I will join you, bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha 😂

What a prize dickhead.

I wonder how many friends he's asked to move in with, and all of them have said no? 🤔 I bet you're not the only one @DecisionsDecisions321

SauvignonBlonk · 15/08/2024 15:49

He has been hoisted by his own petard!

Don’t get to use the phrase much, last time was to describe the actions of my asshole ex (who could be his twin ha ha).

Marseillaise · 15/08/2024 15:49

He's now posting on social media about friends being ruled by their wives and how his ex has left him destitute and homeless (despite his flashy car, posts from last months fancy holiday etc).

I suspect the vast majority of people reading that are laughing along with you and have written him off as nasty little misogynist.

Moveoverdarlin · 15/08/2024 15:52

I’d be inclined to comment with a laughing emoji on his post about being ruled by wives.

What a twat.

Or if you were feeling particularly ballsy I’d be inclined to comment on his post. Oh John, when are you going to learn to keep your gob shut and your pants up?’

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 15/08/2024 15:54

I think MN Towers posted something along 'karma' lines and similar to this when many men who had concealed income etc. to reduce CMS awards discovered that this impacted on their eligibility for furlough payments etc. during COVID-19.

iirc, many men frowned on support humans finding this karma or in the least bit humorous.