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To think that people shouldn't go over their bin allowance and should just do a run up to the tip instead.

131 replies

chaosmaker · 15/08/2024 00:04

Next door neighbours are retired and often are away for several weeks at a time. We currently have a 3 weekly black bin collection (2 black bin bag allowance) and weekly recycling and food waste collections with unlimited bags.

Scummy people further down the street have put bags of recycling and 4 black bin bags outside their house as they know they are away. Surely the point of limits is so that people recycle weekly and shouldn't need to have so much in their black bins at all. Tip local to us is a 10 min drive maximum.

YABU - Mind your own business and don't look out for your immediate neighbours
YANBU - Tell the bin men and report to the council as dumped waste.

OP posts:
happypickle · 18/08/2024 10:03

3 weekly bin collections and only 2 bin bags allowed!! That is asking for trouble

We fill up one large wheely bin + normal wheely bin every 2 weeks and we are a family of 3.

Oldinjuryhelp111037 · 18/08/2024 10:06

The way they do the bins now doesn't cut down on waste. It just means people hold on to it longer whilst they wait for the next collection.

5128gap · 18/08/2024 10:10

YABU. Its obviously better for the environment for your neighbours to make use of refuse collection that's going to happen anyway and would otherwise be under utilised than taking an unnecessary car journey to the tip. You really need to consider the big picture before labeling people as 'scummy' when their actions are more responsible than those you think they should take.

OhshutupNancy · 18/08/2024 10:39

Yabu

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 18/08/2024 11:34

YABU

LakieLady · 18/08/2024 11:55

Peonies12 · 15/08/2024 09:44

I can't believe how much rubbish some households have. We have one small bin bag a week, if that. People should have to pay based on their amount of waste, it needs to be incentivized.

I feel the same, tbh, with the proviso that there should be an additional allowance for households with kids in nappies and people with medical needs that generate more waste.

Our recycling scheme is really good, things like yogurt pots, plastic food trays, butter tubs and foil can go in it as well as all the usual stuff, which I know isn't the case in some areas. My non-recyclable rubbish wouldn't fill a shoe box most weeks. Even if there were 4 adults living here, I doubt if they'd generate more than one black bag full.

The council recently issued wheelie bins or "seagull bags" (big, tough plastic bags that seal with velcro) for non-recyclable waste to every household. Each household is only allowed one general waste bin, but they did offer different sizes. And you can have a second recyling bin, also different sizes. Putting my tiny amount of rubbish into the seagull bag just seems daft, so I just put it out with the food waste bin on bin day (same lorry does both).

I think if any household needs more than one bin for non-recyclable waste, they're probably not recycling everything that can be recycled.

BonifaceBonanza · 18/08/2024 12:34

How can peoples fortnightly wheels bin be “overflowing” when we have such broad recycling services.
Plenty of people (with larger families) easily manage a fortnightly or even a 3 weekly collection.
I think the problem is not assessing your consumption and waste carefully enough.

DumbassHamsterSitterPerson · 18/08/2024 12:43

Maybe the people who have a lot of rubbish don't have such good recycling facilities.

BonifaceBonanza · 18/08/2024 12:44

There’s a minimum standard of recycling across the country. And additional services at many supermarkets. I believe it’s mostly lack of knowledge and lack of effort.

parkrun500club · 18/08/2024 12:50

Doesn't it depends on the rules locally? We can leave extra cardboard next to our recycling bins but everything else has to be in the actual bin (if you pay for the garden waste collection you can leave your Christmas tree out). If it's not in the bin it doesn't get collected.

Going to the tip isn't that easy as you often have to book in advance (I don't mind that as it means no queues once there but you still have to do it), their opening hours are very limited and they won't let you use it if you live in a different county, even if it's closer to where you live than the one in your own county.

The previous government was looking into having a national waste strategy and stopping councils having silly rules but I don't suppose any more will come of that now.

parkrun500club · 18/08/2024 12:50

BonifaceBonanza · 18/08/2024 12:44

There’s a minimum standard of recycling across the country. And additional services at many supermarkets. I believe it’s mostly lack of knowledge and lack of effort.

It's very minimum. And it varies from area to area. We really need a national approach.

parkrun500club · 18/08/2024 12:52

5128gap · 18/08/2024 10:10

YABU. Its obviously better for the environment for your neighbours to make use of refuse collection that's going to happen anyway and would otherwise be under utilised than taking an unnecessary car journey to the tip. You really need to consider the big picture before labeling people as 'scummy' when their actions are more responsible than those you think they should take.

This is also true - everyone driving to tips isn't very eco-friendly either.

BonifaceBonanza · 18/08/2024 12:59

parkrun500club · 18/08/2024 12:50

It's very minimum. And it varies from area to area. We really need a national approach.

Ok so I didn’t know this.
I thought all councils had to offer more?
I’ve read in past few weeks that a national scheme is going to be introduced.
For what it’s worth, recycling as much as poss we don’t even have one bag a fortnight.

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 18/08/2024 14:26

Oh here come the competitive under rubbish bin users!

If kerbside collections happened for soft plastics happened, we'd recycle it. But we're not carting bags of rubbish up to the supermarket with us each week to try and shove into the already overflowing tiny bin there.

AllTheChaos · 18/08/2024 19:41

BonifaceBonanza · 18/08/2024 12:34

How can peoples fortnightly wheels bin be “overflowing” when we have such broad recycling services.
Plenty of people (with larger families) easily manage a fortnightly or even a 3 weekly collection.
I think the problem is not assessing your consumption and waste carefully enough.

My council accepts very little for recycling, it’s very frustrating. As I am disabled and don’t drive, I am reliant on the collections. I recycle everything I can but my bin bags are always full, mostly of cat litter or non-recyclable plastic. Usually the latter is for things that could easily be in waxed paper or Recyclable plastic, and it’s so frustrating having to just throw it away.

chaosmaker · 18/08/2024 20:33

I'm in Wales and my partner in England and it is very different what his council and my council will take. He is also in a city and I'm not. It does need to be more standadised across the UK but everything is patchy at the moment.

The people in my OP don't work and have a car which they like to spend time revving in the street on a daily basis.

OP posts:
Muchtoomuchtodo · 18/08/2024 21:00

I’m also in South Wales.

we have a 3 weekly black bag collection and are allowed 3 bags.

we also have weekly collections for our recycling which we have to separate- food waste, cardboard, paper, plastic and cans / foil (must be in the right coloured bag, anything not in the bag will be left).

we have to pay extra if we want our garden waste collecting.

we can go to the tip if we pre book a slot - there is a limit of 3 black bags there too and they check them for anything that can be recycled.

we are a family of 4. We’re lucky to have a garage where we can store the recycling. I take our soft plastics to the supermarket about once a month.

we often share our allowances with neighbours and if I am going to the tip I check to see if any neighbours have anything that needs taking as they don’t all have cars.

Just because someone has extra waste doesn’t make them scummy.

TheOriginalEmu · 19/08/2024 04:18

AugustAlready · 18/08/2024 08:11

@TheOriginalEmu

Daft bat, tell her to get forensics out!

shame you hadn't been able to go out when it was wet & sign it 'love woof' 😂

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Take care & best wishes xx

I know she’s nuts 😂
thank you though, my Macmillan nurse is organising an appointment to look at wigs, so I’m feeling a lot better about it. X

FountainsOfPens · 19/08/2024 05:25

We often 'just' do a run to the tip and it's a pain in the bloody arse.

It's less about general waste and more recycling because our council will not only take bin full and no any extra - eg cardboard stacked by the side of the bin.

We have space in the general waste so have started recycling a bit less and just chucking some stuff away. And then taking the rest to the tip.

Great job South Kesteven.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 19/08/2024 05:37

And how is someone elderly or infirm (who doesn’t drive before you pipe up with that one) taking bags of rubbish to the skip? putting them on their back and walking there.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 19/08/2024 05:40

Do you not have any thing better to do or flap about.

Katemax82 · 19/08/2024 06:34

I agree with you op, only because I'm always going to the dump if I have excess black bin bags so think everyone should

Blushingm · 19/08/2024 06:54

We have a 3 weekly black bag collection......it's limited to 3 per household. There is also a limit at the local tip of 3 bags per visit but not everyone has a car renember!

I don't see the issue that if I say had 4 bags and my neighbour have 2 then she's happy for me to put out an extra and vice versa

Why should it affect you?

Blushingm · 19/08/2024 06:59

chaosmaker · 15/08/2024 01:09

Also to the people talking about rats, what do you put out? We have a weekly food waste collection that is in a green bin. Everything in recycling should be rinsed out and then doesn't attract rats.

Takeaway boxes etc can't be recycled as they're contaminated - these have to go in black bags.......not everywhere have wheelie bins

Cosyblankets · 19/08/2024 07:05

Have your neighbours who go away complained about this? Are they bothered? Do you know that the other neighbours don't have permission? I couldn't get worked up about this. If I'm away I'm happy for my neighbours to use my bins