to feel quite shocked that DH has PTSD from teaching?

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Its feels pretty awful tbh. He has just today received this diagnosis and has been referred for priority EMDR.

He has taught for 25 years in a secondary school, and got out last year due to clinically diagnosed burn out.

I knew it was bad, but I never realised it was this bad.

How can this be allowed to happen?

What is wrong with you???

Just stop it.

Stop the insults.

Stop with the whole wide eyed 'it's so simple' routine.

Just get off this thread and start your own somewhere else.

So if you had a friend on the edge of a mh breakdown over a job what advice would you give or would you just sit back until they killed themselves. I find it odd as a professional adult who cares for children that your telling me to get of the thread but you have no issue with someone calling someone else a twat

You're not being called a twat.

You jumped into a conversation I was having with another poster about Katharine Birbalsingh being a twat on social media and made it about you.

Thankyou for clarification I based it on another poster saying it was about me. So if heyho said it to you then she's saying your part of the problem as that's how the post started. Or was it about me and your now trying to gaslight me which If that's the case I really hope you don't do that to the children you teach.

We've all explained so many times why "just leave" isn't good advice. In vocational careers, people feel like failures if they quit; it's a slap in the face to have dedicated yourself to your degree(s) and the subject you love to have to give it all up for something totally unrelated; teachers care about their classes, hence not just going off sick instead of working the long notice periods; in schools, not coping and even illness are viewed as weakness, and you don't even get to rest when sick - you still have to plan your lessons and I'm sure I'm not alone in knowing people who were hassled to send lesson plans from their hospital bed (and did it); that environment, therefore, institutionalises you into feeling that it's your fault if you can't handle it and you should just keep going anyway because you don't matter.

Is that enough for you to stop?

She started two comments with "you're part of the problem," one aimed at you and one aimed at noblegiraffe. The twat discussion clearly relates to the one aimed at noblegiraffe, given that she used that word. The post you're up in arms about wouldn't even make sense if that poster was trying to call you a twat.

But it's not your fault do you not see how toxic your being treated this isn't normal and by staying people are allowing this to happen. I understand none of you still teaching have suffered serious mental illness yet but I have and I am telling you nothing is worth that.

Can you not understand that when you're in a bad situation, it's hard to see things objectively? I DID leave years ago and I stand by every word. I've really tried to explain how you get to the point of feeling like it's you (the teacher) who's the problem and not feeling empowered to leave. It's really not as simple as you're making out, and multiple people have told you this, and for some reason you won't accept people's actual experience. You also have no idea of what MH issues posters have.

I stand corrected, apparently the post about twats wasn’t aimed at you. Bit confused about that exchange so I’ll leave it for the posters involved to clarify.

Back to the topic of this thread, I do think this isn’t about you and you’re making it about you and not really being truly open to other people’s experience in teaching.

Regarding OPs husband and others, what you don’t seem to grasp is that leaving the profession they loved and trained for can have a bad impact on your mental health. Therefore “just leave” isn’t the panacea to all teaching related mental health problems.

I don’t think it’s fair to suggest that all these teachers are just particularly sensitive! Please try and be more considerate of their feelings and lived experiences.

You don't know that, though. I'd say that the day I seriously considered driving at high speed into a wall on my way into work suggests serious mental illness.

I'm pretty sure you are trying to be supportive here. But, actually, it's not working.

All this, exactly.

Between 2011 to 2015 139 female teachers took their own lives in England. Their poor families.

Just stop now.

Teaching needs desperately to get beyond 'if you don't like it, just leave'.

It has been like that for years, and teachers have left, loads of them, to the massive detriment of education. Experience has left, courses have been cut, children are left without teachers.

We now need to be at the point 'if that many teachers don't like it, things need to change, and fast.

I'm hoping that Labour will come up with something a bit better than 'you can take your PPA at home'. We're due Ofsted this year, and teachers will know what that's like. I really hope they speed up binning single grade inspections.

What on earth is wrong with you? Are you enjoying yourself??

If you're going to keep going on on this thread, please could you engage with some of the points about WHY it's hard to leave?

I think you're right, @Differentstarts is enjoying this. Anyway, I've reported some of their comments.

None of the points anyone have suggested have been more important then someone ending their life. I also asked what advice people would give to a friend who was suicidal due to their job whether they would tell them to leave or sit back and watch them end their life but nobody has answered that either

You've reported my comments because I have a different opinion to you.

No, I've reported your comments because I think you are enjoying upsetting people.

Do you think people who end their lives do so rationally? I really tried to explain how it can get to the point where you don't feel able to leave, and so have lots of other posters, and it's honestly insulting that we've opened up about our experiences just to have this simplistic refusal to engage thrown back at us time and again. I won't be responding to you again.

I haven't name called I haven't corrected peoples spelling I haven't sided with multiple posters to gang up on one person who has a different opinion. I think you will find that's all you lot and I haven't reported one comment as people are allowed to have different opinions and have adult conversations on forums about that

It became obvious when they refused to believe that their child might end up without a teacher that they're not here to listen to teachers.

What are you on about?