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To ask how often you run these appliances after I’ve had a HUGE energy bill?

307 replies

Brepa · 13/08/2024 19:29

How often do you run the dishwasher, washing machine and tumble dryer?

dishwasher here goes on every night without fail. The washing machine 6 out of 7 days. The tumble dryer 4 or 5 times a week. I didn’t think this was excessive? Is it?

OP posts:
thefamous5 · 14/08/2024 17:07

Don't have a dishwasher.

Used to have a tumble dryer but was expensive to run so when it packed up we didn't replace it. We use a dry buddy most days.

Washing machine - at least twice a day.

PickAChew · 14/08/2024 17:08

SpiritAdder · 14/08/2024 15:31

Wool isn’t antibacterial. It is actually very germy and the bacteria are loathe to leave it.

  • it absorbs odours so gets less smelly even when covered in bacteria
  • bacteria sticks firmly to the fibres in a bio-film, so the testing method where wool is touched to agar means no bacteria rubs off, it stays on the wool. Creating a sort of false negative.
  • Wool fibres neither kill bacteria nor inhibit bacteria multiplication/growth
  • wool fibres tend to pick up bacteria from the skin and hang onto them, so the antibacterial property isn’t that the wool is bacteria free, but it readily picks up bacteria from the skin.

So washing the wool is still necessary.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35335238/

And moths gravitate towards it far more readily when it smells of animal/human.

thefamous5 · 14/08/2024 17:09

Forgot to add -

With six of us in household; me working from home and home educating one child, so tablets and computers and tv and kettles on all day, we use about £4 a day electric (pay as you go enter)

NewName24 · 14/08/2024 17:21

Thanks for replying to me @SpiritAdder . Interesting how different we can all be from one another. Smile

My thinking is, if you are just putting on clothes after work / school, to sit inside in, then they would be worn again rather than washed when not dirty.
I had 3 dc at home, who were swimmers (lot of towels), and football and rugby players as well as campers, but could never get to that many washes.

BeaLola · 14/08/2024 17:36

Couple here with teenage son - our dishwasher is on every other night - we program to come on at cheap rate ( cheapest to run)

Our washing machine is probably on every other day but often do 2 or 3 loads when it's on (our machine does half loads and has a 15 min quick wash setting)

Tumble Drier - only use Nov- March time and mostly for towels. Bed linen and teenager stuff - usually program to come on at night rate

CortieTat · 14/08/2024 17:51

SpiritAdder · 14/08/2024 15:31

Wool isn’t antibacterial. It is actually very germy and the bacteria are loathe to leave it.

  • it absorbs odours so gets less smelly even when covered in bacteria
  • bacteria sticks firmly to the fibres in a bio-film, so the testing method where wool is touched to agar means no bacteria rubs off, it stays on the wool. Creating a sort of false negative.
  • Wool fibres neither kill bacteria nor inhibit bacteria multiplication/growth
  • wool fibres tend to pick up bacteria from the skin and hang onto them, so the antibacterial property isn’t that the wool is bacteria free, but it readily picks up bacteria from the skin.

So washing the wool is still necessary.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35335238/

I’m quite happy with them staying in the wool and not rubbing off, that’s antibacterial enough for me.

I’m sure an ££££ cashmere jumper will look splendid washed in Domestos 😅.

MyMILisLovely · 14/08/2024 18:06

@CortieTat , you shouldn't use Domestos. A hefty dose of Zoflora will do just fine.

Hidly · 14/08/2024 22:20

If anyone is with British Gas they do a half price energy saver day on Sundays, not sure if every Sunday but you get half of the amount of what you use on the saver days credited to your account.

ForGreyKoala · 14/08/2024 22:31

Bignanna · 14/08/2024 14:30

“Wool needs washing maybe once a year”
Never heard that one before! Surely it needs washing as often as any other fabric?

While I don't wash wool just once a year, it really doesn't need to be washed as much as other fabrics, especially if it is worn over top of other garments. We wear a lot of merino where I live and you can wear the same top for days/weeks and it doesn't smell at all.

ForGreyKoala · 14/08/2024 22:35

CortieTat · 14/08/2024 17:51

I’m quite happy with them staying in the wool and not rubbing off, that’s antibacterial enough for me.

I’m sure an ££££ cashmere jumper will look splendid washed in Domestos 😅.

I agree - and I've yet to hear of anyone getting sick because of their germy woollen garments. Funny how people managed by not overwashing their woollen garments for centuries and suddenly "science" tells us it's bad.

And for another pp - I have NEVER had moths anywhere near any of my wool clothes (and I have a lot of them).

Temporaryname158 · 14/08/2024 22:39

Household of 3, no dishwasher.

in order to reduce costs I try and wash as little as possible. I won’t wash a shirt if it’s been worn for a day, only when it’s dirty for example (2 or 3 wears) this reduces washing somewhat in the first place. Then I keep an eye on the weather for a dry day and try and do all washing required on that day and like dry for as much of the year as I can! Usually this is 2 loads a week

PrincessofWells · 14/08/2024 22:39

DancingNotDrowning · 14/08/2024 07:20

This comment is bizarre. How can you possibly know?!

we’re a family of 6, 6 king/double beds + 12 x towels every week generate 12-15 loads of washing. Plus clothes, plus sports kits, plus cleaning cloths, plus a delicates cycle or two.

if the OP is a family like mine her use seems positively frugal. If she’s a single parent with a potty trained toddler then maybe not, but you can’t possibly know

Your usage of resources is bizarre. The planet isn't going to survive with this sort of usage of resources.

If you wash your bedding once a fortnight and line dry it the linens will last twice as long and unless you don't shower every day or so they won't need weekly washing.

PrincessofWells · 14/08/2024 22:48

ForGreyKoala · 14/08/2024 22:35

I agree - and I've yet to hear of anyone getting sick because of their germy woollen garments. Funny how people managed by not overwashing their woollen garments for centuries and suddenly "science" tells us it's bad.

And for another pp - I have NEVER had moths anywhere near any of my wool clothes (and I have a lot of them).

It isn't science that tells us it's bad, it's laundry and white goods manufacturers that flog us their products.
I often wear jeans for a week before they hit the washing machine, and only wash tops after a few wears unless they become marked. Honestly if people are showering 3 or 4 times a week how does stuff get dirty?

MyMILisLovely · 14/08/2024 23:13

I can wear the same jeans for months. They go on a clean body. I don't sweat in them. I wear them for a few hours, if that, then they are aired.

If I was at home doing jobs around the house and garden they might be filthy, but they're not going to be dirty from popping to the supermarket or something.

2Rebecca · 14/08/2024 23:17

Dish washer every other day. Washing machine most days but often quick or sports wash. Tumble drier hardly ever, washing line and airers

CanadaNotAMum · 15/08/2024 05:13

Flossflower · 14/08/2024 09:32

I live in the UK and I agree with you. A lot of UK houses have washing hanging all over the house in winter. It looks terrible and can make a damp problem in the house. All radiators say not to put clothes on them but so many people do. I use a tumble dryer in the winter.

I do notice that people in the UK seem to talk anbout issues with “damp” a lot compared to people here. I think this would be mildew and mold in Canada. Some mildew in a shower would not be unusual here, maybe even in a basement. But in the rest of the house it’s not something people tolerate because it’s dangerous over time. We might be overreacting, but it’s interesting to compare.

I did reach peak Canadian status last winter when I started hanging out my wash in -20 C. When it’s that cold, it’s dry in this part of Canada, so the clothes will actually freeze dry. It was fascinating and I plan to do it again this year, But if it’s warmer than -10 they would never dry outdoors here.

CortieTat · 15/08/2024 06:52

ForGreyKoala · 14/08/2024 22:35

I agree - and I've yet to hear of anyone getting sick because of their germy woollen garments. Funny how people managed by not overwashing their woollen garments for centuries and suddenly "science" tells us it's bad.

And for another pp - I have NEVER had moths anywhere near any of my wool clothes (and I have a lot of them).

I’ve never had moths either.
I keep the drawers clean (vacuum cleaning several times a year), preventatively use pheromone traps, frequently wear my wool garments, always freeze new ones for at least 72h and use cedar and lavender in the drawers. It helps to keep them away

DilemmaDelilah · 15/08/2024 07:01

Dishwasher every day. Washing machine and tumble dryer 4 - 5 times a week.
Oven, rarely (air fryer). We have 2 freezers and 3 fridges and we are all electric.
our bills aren't too high - we have A+ rated washing machine and dryer and solar panels. Some days we can actually have the washing machine and dryer on and still be generating more electricity than we are using. Not often, but it does happen.

CortieTat · 15/08/2024 07:43

CanadaNotAMum · 15/08/2024 05:13

I do notice that people in the UK seem to talk anbout issues with “damp” a lot compared to people here. I think this would be mildew and mold in Canada. Some mildew in a shower would not be unusual here, maybe even in a basement. But in the rest of the house it’s not something people tolerate because it’s dangerous over time. We might be overreacting, but it’s interesting to compare.

I did reach peak Canadian status last winter when I started hanging out my wash in -20 C. When it’s that cold, it’s dry in this part of Canada, so the clothes will actually freeze dry. It was fascinating and I plan to do it again this year, But if it’s warmer than -10 they would never dry outdoors here.

I assume you live in a wooden house? I’m in Sweden and like 99,9% of Swedes who live in houses, I live in a wooden house. In a wooden building any mould inside or outside = structural damage sooner or later, so there’s a lot of effort put into having good ventilation and good insulation. I live in a region where we have horizontal rainfall or snowfall more or less 360 days a year and yet my house is very dry inside and probably feels draughty as well for an average Brit because we have forced ventilation so there’s constant movement of air which gets sucked inside by the heat pump system.

Wooden houses are also easy to retrofit with good insulation so even very old houses are increasingly retrofitted with heat pumps because they drastically drive the electricity usage down.

I think in comparison the majority of houses in the UK are made of stone, concrete or bricks. They seem to be really badly ventilated but it’s not an issue because damp inside won’t damage the house although it’s really not great for health and electricity bills.

In Sweden we have a generation of houses built in 1950s-1960s that are severely affected by construction errors that made them badly insulated from the ground. They are notorious for water damage and have very characteristic smell that you can actually smell on people’s clothes. There’s a whole construction business just around fixing these houses (which more or less requires rebuilding most of the bearing walls).

ForGreyKoala · 15/08/2024 09:07

CortieTat · 15/08/2024 06:52

I’ve never had moths either.
I keep the drawers clean (vacuum cleaning several times a year), preventatively use pheromone traps, frequently wear my wool garments, always freeze new ones for at least 72h and use cedar and lavender in the drawers. It helps to keep them away

I don't do anything with my woollens, they simply sit in the drawers!

PigeonFeatherInMyChair · 15/08/2024 09:12

The dishwasher goes on 2-3 times a day.

The washing machine is normally running once a day or more.

The tumble dryer gets used a fair bit in winter (maybe once every other day) and much less when things can be dried outside (maybe once every other week or so).

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2Rebecca · 15/08/2024 11:30

In the UK most people have some form of central heating which can cause dry air in the house so I think hanging washing on airers just makes the moisture level more normal. Some people just seem to wash and tumble dry things far more than other people. They will have higher fuel bills

Flossflower · 15/08/2024 16:46

Temporaryname158 · 14/08/2024 22:39

Household of 3, no dishwasher.

in order to reduce costs I try and wash as little as possible. I won’t wash a shirt if it’s been worn for a day, only when it’s dirty for example (2 or 3 wears) this reduces washing somewhat in the first place. Then I keep an eye on the weather for a dry day and try and do all washing required on that day and like dry for as much of the year as I can! Usually this is 2 loads a week

Sorry, trousers or skirts yes but shirts should be washed after wearing for 1 day. I don’t want to sit next to somebody who doesn’t put on a clean top every day.

Dotto · 15/08/2024 17:25

Flossflower · 15/08/2024 16:46

Sorry, trousers or skirts yes but shirts should be washed after wearing for 1 day. I don’t want to sit next to somebody who doesn’t put on a clean top every day.

How would you know, if it is still clean and doesn't smell? Not all of us are sweaty Bettys

Wexone · 15/08/2024 19:58

Flossflower · 15/08/2024 16:46

Sorry, trousers or skirts yes but shirts should be washed after wearing for 1 day. I don’t want to sit next to somebody who doesn’t put on a clean top every day.

I don't wash my tops after one day wearing them..my job entails sitting at a desk and non sweaty work there is no need for it to be washed every day.