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To get “girls” stuff when I search for “boys”

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Cocobeau · 12/08/2024 07:27

This is so fucking annoying.

I get this problem on so many websites. I specifically select the “boys” category and then results show a load of clothes clearly aimed for girls.

This example is from M&S. My exact actions;

Kids tab > 3 for 2 on kids Clothing > Boys (the options are view all, view boys or view girls.

These are the very first results that display. It’s clearly all designed with girls in mind. I get you’re allowed to dress your boy in pink and animal print, but I’d prefer not to for now. He can wear what he wants when he’s old enough to choose.

You might say this is a fly in the system but I have also frequently had this problem previously on Next and H&M.

I messaged Next once about it as I thought it was a glitch on the app. Their response was to tell me to use the web version, which had the same issue.

This is very much first world problems but it’s soooo bloody annoying!

To get “girls” stuff when I search for “boys”
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longapple · 13/08/2024 10:33

HalfaCider · 13/08/2024 10:25

I wouldn't have a problem with it if the clothes that companies decided are unisex were indeed styled that way. I have bought T's for my boys and the necklines/sleeves look horrible, as they're obviously styled for a girl. I don't have an issue with a range of colours/patterns across sexes, but actual styling does impact if something is suitable for boys and girls and that should be made clear on websites.

If the sleeves and necklines are horrible why are they ok for girls though? Why are they suitable for one but not the other? Boy arms and necks are the same as girl ones.

HalfaCider · 13/08/2024 11:00

My boys' arms are far chunkier than my daughter. They are also broader in the chest and wider on the back. The scoop neckline that would have looked pretty on a girl, looked awful on my boys. Same goes for the capped sleeves.

WeAreManyUArefew · 13/08/2024 11:33

I too like the ‘blurring’ and think that it should be gender neutral anyway up til about 11/12 when kids shapes change more…
I have a girl who loves ‘boys’ tshirts and joggers over frills and leggings with no pockets and a boy who liked to wear bright clothes when he was younger and I personally HATED those shit logos that had ‘ be kind’ on clothes clearly aimed at girls and ‘ Future astronaut’ etc on ‘boys’ clothes.

Now both kids are teens - the boy is all black men’s clothing and the girl wears a mix of girl/women/boys … I miss the days when they dressed themselves as loudly and weirdly as possible!

longapple · 13/08/2024 11:52

HalfaCider · 13/08/2024 11:00

My boys' arms are far chunkier than my daughter. They are also broader in the chest and wider on the back. The scoop neckline that would have looked pretty on a girl, looked awful on my boys. Same goes for the capped sleeves.

But that doesn't mean all boys or all girls. What about the girls who are the wrong build and look wrong in the "girl" styles and are made to feel like there is something wrong with them having to wear "boy" clothes? Or even worse if this thread is anything to go by, what about boys who suit or want to wear what is classified as the girl styles?
But yes, the style should be clear when you're buying something. Sizing is so random the only really helpful guide is the item laid flat with a tape measure neck to hem and armpit to armpit.

AlpineMuesli · 13/08/2024 13:34

WHO has different growth charts for boys and girls.

VenusClapTrap · 13/08/2024 13:37

longapple · 13/08/2024 09:50

The cut kind of does matter though when the girls clothes are shorter and tighter and less suitable for physical activity, coupled with parents like there are on this thread being horrified at the thought of dressing their boy in girls clothes and vice versa and who are very vocal about it in the kids hearing, so the kids then go to school and ridicule other kids for wearing the wrong thing.

Kids are still brainwashed by stereotypes and it goes so much further than wanting t-shirts with dinosaurs or cats on in a colour they like. In one ear they're being told they can be anything and in the other boys are being dressed to be physically active and given toys from the "boys" section which has engineering aspects which help them develop spatial awareness and understanding of physics. Girls are given nurturing and quiet art activity toys and then you get posts on here about "a boy mum" being so different because oh the noise and sticks and wrestling, which is literally how they are taught to behave.
There was a thing on TV a few years ago where they dressed babies in "boy" and "girl" outfits and observed how experienced early years staff interacted with them, which toys they encouraged and how they reacted if they toppled over etc. the staff themselves were astonished when it was revealed to them as they thought they treated the kids the same. The day to day assumptions are steering how kids develop and having clothes and toys that are only socially acceptable for one or the other is limiting them.

I think this documentary was ‘No More Boys & Girls’ and it was brilliant.

drspouse · 13/08/2024 15:09

AlpineMuesli · 13/08/2024 13:34

WHO has different growth charts for boys and girls.

They are a tiny bit different in size but this wouldn't affect children's clothing cuts - the sizes massively overlap between boys and girls, and the issues with e.g. girls' shorts are that they are very short compared to their width, not that they are smaller overall for a given age.

Moonshiners · 13/08/2024 15:14

CableCar · 12/08/2024 08:26

YANBU, I find it annoying too. Clarks are brilliant because you do get the traditional boys and traditional girls school shoes... But hate websites like smiggle, Smyth's also where it's so hard to find gender based toys!!! You have to go by colour or category, which doesn't help me find what I want! They should bring it back and if you don't want to use it you don't have to, but at least it's there for the people who do want to!

I have slipped back into the last decade?
Who chooses toys based on gender nowadays?

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 13/08/2024 15:22

drspouse · 13/08/2024 15:09

They are a tiny bit different in size but this wouldn't affect children's clothing cuts - the sizes massively overlap between boys and girls, and the issues with e.g. girls' shorts are that they are very short compared to their width, not that they are smaller overall for a given age.

Yes!

My DD is 2 and her choices for shorts tend to be cycling (tighter) or almost hot pant style, or "boys".

She's tall, so I buy the next age up and they look better but it's so weird, why would a 2 year old need hot pants?

drspouse · 13/08/2024 16:18

Moonshiners · 13/08/2024 15:14

I have slipped back into the last decade?
Who chooses toys based on gender nowadays?

People who buy into the marketing that you have to have new items for each child and/or your son will be gay if he pushes a pram.

rayofsunshine86 · 13/08/2024 16:22

Does the item that is shown to you have an alternative colour that is more masculine in style? For example, the photo shows pink trousers, but it turns out they also come in green?

CableCar · 13/08/2024 21:49

Moonshiners · 13/08/2024 15:14

I have slipped back into the last decade?
Who chooses toys based on gender nowadays?

People who may be buying for a child that you don't know well, except you know that they're a "girlie girl". Because despite all that the world has to say about toys not being gender specific, plenty of children I know are "girly girls" or "boys boys".

MammaTill2Pojkar · 13/08/2024 21:54

I'd be fine with this 'problem', I hate that clothes are separated in to boys/girls, I hate that boys aren't allowed/expected to like pink/purple/hearts/flowers/Skye from Paw Patrol (all things my boys love). I'd be similarly pissed off if I had girls and found that they never get blue/green/Marshall or Rubble from Paw Patrol options. They should stop splitting clothes and just make them for all children to enjoy.

CableCar · 13/08/2024 21:55

Sunshine9218 · 13/08/2024 08:58

But what if she likes traditionally 'boy' toys? Can't you just ask her parents?

Sometimes it's nice to surprise the parents as much as the child. Just my opinion. My daughter will dress up as a superhero or play with swords, I'm not saying I think children should only have toys that any gender based stereotype reinforces. I just mean sometimes it's helpful to know what 9 year old girls are in to, as I'm pretty sure there is a strong relationship between gender/age/toy type.

Sunshine9218 · 13/08/2024 22:05

CableCar · 13/08/2024 21:55

Sometimes it's nice to surprise the parents as much as the child. Just my opinion. My daughter will dress up as a superhero or play with swords, I'm not saying I think children should only have toys that any gender based stereotype reinforces. I just mean sometimes it's helpful to know what 9 year old girls are in to, as I'm pretty sure there is a strong relationship between gender/age/toy type.

In that case I would just get gender neutral stuff like lego, games, craft stuff, books etc

longapple · 14/08/2024 00:08

CableCar · 13/08/2024 21:55

Sometimes it's nice to surprise the parents as much as the child. Just my opinion. My daughter will dress up as a superhero or play with swords, I'm not saying I think children should only have toys that any gender based stereotype reinforces. I just mean sometimes it's helpful to know what 9 year old girls are in to, as I'm pretty sure there is a strong relationship between gender/age/toy type.

I've found sites like Wickeduncle are helpful for getting inspiration. I never buy through their links though, there are usually cheaper versions of the same thing on argos or eBay.

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