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to not want to hear this conversation whilst sitting out on my patio? (animal cruely triggering)

78 replies

LindorDoubleChoc · 09/08/2024 20:49

I live in a terraced house so obviously can hear everything that's being said in neighbouring gardens and a bit beyond.

My neighbours have gone on holiday and obviously sublet the house either to friends or an AirBnB type thing. The people subletting (from the sound of it) are two young couples, very posh - talking about the difficulties of getting a job in the City. Also shouting at Alexa (in the kitchen) from the garden.

They are eating dinner outside. There is one very loud young hooray, everything he's saying is with a mouth full of food. He's just been talking about websites he's been on where dogs are boiled alive for food and he's seen a whole deep-fried chihauaua, and says he'd love to try it, because obviously it's no different to eating pork. And it's racist to say otherwise.

AIBU to say he's a cunt of the highest order and I don't know why the 3 people eating with him aren't telling him to shut the fuck up. And how can he even have a partner, or friends?

And thanks for getting those images into my head you stupid, fucking, random stranger.

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Noseybookworm · 09/08/2024 22:34

Ooh I think I'd be tempted to shout over the fence 'Shut the fuck up, you sick arsehole!!' and turn my garden sprinkler on high enough to soak them!

macaroniandcheeze · 09/08/2024 22:57

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 09/08/2024 21:58

Honestly I don’t want to be “that vegan” and I rarely am, tbh, each to their own, but really if you’d eat bacon then you should be fine with eating a dog .

You are being "that" vegan though. Go tell someone they should be fine with eating pork or beef even if it's a religious or cultural taboo.

Nope I’m not interested in people’s religions thanks. Generally I don’t care what people do. But reading meat eaters claiming they wouldn’t eat something boiled alive just shows how ignorant and hypocritical they really are.

Branleuse · 09/08/2024 23:04

I would pointedly put music or radio on loudly outside while they're there

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 09/08/2024 23:10

But reading meat eaters claiming they wouldn’t eat something boiled alive just shows how ignorant and hypocritical they really are

And this is why vegans are universally popular.

RosesAndHellebores · 09/08/2024 23:16

I'm intrigued by a hooray Henry speaking with his mouth full. I'm not acquainted with that concept. Nor with the concept of the over 60 smoking spliffs.

Tinydogssitter · 09/08/2024 23:20

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 09/08/2024 23:10

But reading meat eaters claiming they wouldn’t eat something boiled alive just shows how ignorant and hypocritical they really are

And this is why vegans are universally popular.

I don't think most vegans care about being popular. I know don't.

There is no difference between eating a dog and any other animal. It's just a lie meat eaters tell themselves.

WomanFromTheNorth · 09/08/2024 23:29

It's disgusting but all kinds of disgusting things are done to animals that people eat and nobody bats an eyelid. If you eat meat, you're no better.

SwingTheMonkey · 09/08/2024 23:53

I don’t think op is asking if what’s being said is disgusting. Obviously it is. She’s asking if she should report what they are saying to the owner of the house…

Universalsnail · 09/08/2024 23:57

I mean it isn't any different to eating pork really. Obviously the boiling alive element is absolutely horrendous but like if he was talking about boiling lobster alive would you be so angry about the conversation he's having.

I think you are being ott. It's a grim conversation but I don't think he's really doing anything wrong. If it's upsetting you so much why not just go to somewhere else in your house where you can't listen to the conversation

HowIrresponsible · 09/08/2024 23:59

Thought isn't the same as deed.

He's full of crap. Don't take it so seriously

Zwellers · 10/08/2024 00:00

macaroniandcheeze are you for real or just trolling with your inabity to note that whether you agree or not eating some animals is socially acceptable in the uk but not other?. Bet you are fun at parties.

WildCosmos · 10/08/2024 00:26

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Wordsmithery · 10/08/2024 00:34

SwingTheMonkey · 09/08/2024 20:59

let them know what? They’re entitled to discuss anything in the garden. What’s your neighbour going to do? Contact them and say their conversation isn’t appropriate? Honestly op, there is nothing you can do about this. They aren’t doing anything illegal.

Well watching films of dogs being boiled alive is a bit like watching snuff movies, isn't it? I mean in many countries mistreating an animal in that way IS Illegal, so watching films of it happening may be illegal too.

SwingTheMonkey · 10/08/2024 01:21

Wordsmithery · 10/08/2024 00:34

Well watching films of dogs being boiled alive is a bit like watching snuff movies, isn't it? I mean in many countries mistreating an animal in that way IS Illegal, so watching films of it happening may be illegal too.

Firstly, the op doesn’t say the man has been watching these videos in the garden, just that he’s watched them at some point and has discussed them.

Secondly, even if he was watching them in the garden - what is anyone going to do about that? Who should op report that to? The police won’t be at all interested and I doubt the owner of the house would, either.

The subject matter is grim, that’s for sure. But talking about it in a back garden is perfectly legal. By the sounds of it, the inhabitants aren’t doing anything for which they should be reported. It’s annoying, definitely. But just part of summer when everyone is using their back garden, unfortunately.

SwingTheMonkey · 10/08/2024 01:23

Wordsmithery · 10/08/2024 00:34

Well watching films of dogs being boiled alive is a bit like watching snuff movies, isn't it? I mean in many countries mistreating an animal in that way IS Illegal, so watching films of it happening may be illegal too.

And it definitely would not be illegal to watch a video in the UK of a dog being boiled alive in a country where it is customary to do so. However unpalatable we find it.

Copperoliverbear · 10/08/2024 02:32

Id still shout over the fence and tell him he's an evil cunt and is obviously very weird, probably a pervert too, people like that are evil in more ways than one.

Izzabellasasperella · 10/08/2024 02:53

As humans (in most countries) we have a totally different relationship with dogs and cats. They live in our houses, we feed them, look after them and love them. Very few people have the same if any kind of relationship with cows or pigs.
That's why the thought of anyone hurting/ killing and then eating dog/cat meat is so abhorrent to us.
So in my eyes there is a difference and a reason why people don't eat them.
It is not 'a story we tell ourselves as meat eaters'

macaroniandcheeze · 10/08/2024 02:56

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 09/08/2024 23:10

But reading meat eaters claiming they wouldn’t eat something boiled alive just shows how ignorant and hypocritical they really are

And this is why vegans are universally popular.

Meh, I’d rather be popular with animals than meatheads.

macaroniandcheeze · 10/08/2024 03:00

SwingTheMonkey · 09/08/2024 23:53

I don’t think op is asking if what’s being said is disgusting. Obviously it is. She’s asking if she should report what they are saying to the owner of the house…

No of course not. What are the owners supposed to do about it? They could ask them to talk more quietly I suppose but the OP could do that themselves anyway. They can’t control the content of the conversations.

macaroniandcheeze · 10/08/2024 03:02

Zwellers · 10/08/2024 00:00

macaroniandcheeze are you for real or just trolling with your inabity to note that whether you agree or not eating some animals is socially acceptable in the uk but not other?. Bet you are fun at parties.

I’m not trolling just contributing to the thread in a normal way, but I don’t agree that killing or eating any animals is acceptable sorry. Society is just plain wrong about that.

I am great fun at parties, I can still do the splits.

Sweetteaplease · 10/08/2024 03:03

YABU. Eating any animal is disgusting, the only difference is what you think is "normal" or "ok" (I eat animals)

Sweetteaplease · 10/08/2024 03:05

The boiling alive part is terrible, but in all honesty I doubt most animals aren't treated particularly well (and seafood is often booked alive), so it's quite hypocritical unless you're a true vegan

Izzabellasasperella · 10/08/2024 03:07

Op .I would have called over the fence in a non aggressive way. Why not, if someone's words are upsetting you then say something. They will either stop the conversation or if they are a twat carry on in which case you could go back in the house or play loud music.
We need to do more of this as a society, no need to go in all guns blazing aggressive attitude is often met with anger/ verbal abuse or worse.
Be nice. be calm and explain it will work in the majority of cases. Not you op just in general.

macaroniandcheeze · 10/08/2024 03:09

Izzabellasasperella · 10/08/2024 02:53

As humans (in most countries) we have a totally different relationship with dogs and cats. They live in our houses, we feed them, look after them and love them. Very few people have the same if any kind of relationship with cows or pigs.
That's why the thought of anyone hurting/ killing and then eating dog/cat meat is so abhorrent to us.
So in my eyes there is a difference and a reason why people don't eat them.
It is not 'a story we tell ourselves as meat eaters'

I think you’ve just re-told the story that meat eaters tell themselves, oops.

Interesting point about pets though. People eat pigeon, chicken and duck, but people keep them as pets too.

But would society be ok eating a parakeet, seagull or sparrow? Or a little robin red breast plucked and stuffed inside the turkey at Christmas?

(If you think I’m fun at parties you should see me at Christmas and Easter)

Izzabellasasperella · 10/08/2024 04:14

I think you’ve just re-told the story that meat eaters tell themselves, oops.
No I disagree if you have relationship with with a dog or cat they become like your family. Part of society also.There is a reason we don't eat human meat. Dogs and cats are pets we love them so would never eat the met of one even though it wouldn't be my pet it would feel like an extension it.
Pigs, cows, sheep I don't have any relationship with and they are mainly bred to be eaten.
I am a meat eater you are a vegan so we can agree to disagree but I cannot agree that this is some story meat eaters tell themselves. There is a difference between pets and livestock
I do know there are cases of animal cruelty to pets but these are a tiny minority to the love and care pet owners lavish on them.
This often extends to other dogs/cats. People often say they a dog person or a cat person even if they don't have a pet😀
We have an affinity with them and we definitely assign human characteristics to them. That is why people don't eat them.