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Anyone else feeling nervous about tonight?

96 replies

Ahreepdeepdeepdeep · 07/08/2024 19:50

The Town I live is on the 'list' of planned protests for this Evening. My Work sent all Staff Home before usual closing time.
Town centre is so quiet and Eerie, majority of shops closed and boarded up and even Tesco / Petrol stations plan to close.. we were called to get our click and collect earlier due to the unplanned closure!

OP posts:
OvaHere · 07/08/2024 21:19

This made me laugh - from the Times live feed

In Blackpool, seven protesters mounted a roundabout in the town centre, holding up a Union Jack and St George’s flag to a cheering crowd of around 100.
With Blackpool Tower visible in the background, they sang “England till I die” and chanted: “This is f*ing England.” Another protester, looking on, shouted: “There’s no black in the Union Jack.” Meanwhile, a woman dressed in a nightie and slippers marched up to the protest and ordered several of her children home.

Ilikewinter · 07/08/2024 21:25

I'm feeling quietly optimistic all is well! . Theres a definite change in tone tonight. I've seen several Police messages stating they will give honest updates on any issues and the local paper have also stated on Facebook they will only post factual information, they've reported on several tik tok videos supposedly showing crowds gathering in local towns but the news have stated their reporters are there and the videos are fake. It seems any 'fake news' has been immediately shouted down.

Trumpetjelly · 07/08/2024 21:30

Feel it’s awful and sad we’re getting social media advice from ur council to stay off our streets…

why should we have to hide from these thugs?

also feel sad for my friends who are black or brown who are terrified to go out as don’t want to be targeted.

these people are utter thugs and it is so wrong that they are making normal law abiding brits if all colours afraid to go out.

they are despicable and evil and I hope they all get arrested.

nothing wrong with having peaceful protests but this is just pure thuggery and using the deaths of those little girls as an excuse to hang their racist beliefs on.

it’s truly a sad day for Britain .

Topofthemountain · 07/08/2024 21:32

It seems the police have made good use of dispersal orders. I think that, along with the fast processing through the courts are working..

TennisLady · 07/08/2024 21:33

Just like Durham last night where the whole city shut down… thankfully nothing happened. Loving all the photos from the counter protests! Hopefully the riots are now over and they’ve ran out of steam.

tetheredgoat · 07/08/2024 21:34

OP, fear not, a sea change is coming in, righteous citizens defending tneir homes families, businesses, it will be like Destry Rides Again, when the doughty townswomen have had enough of masculine violence.

Many of the mindless vandals are easily identifiable which is baffling but satisfying.

RunningOutOfImaginitiveUsernames · 07/08/2024 21:34

I wonder if the sentences some men received today have put them off?

Not as much fun when you realise you might get 3 years in prison!

Hopefully that along with so many counter protesters has stopped the absolute insaneness of this week.

TheOccupier · 07/08/2024 21:35

Wasn't nervous in the slightest. YABU.

Chocolateorange22 · 07/08/2024 21:36

HMTheQueenMuffin · 07/08/2024 20:03

I am. We are in Southampton and shops are boarded up. We have locked our garden gate but tbh anyone could just leap over the wall.

I watched the Echo live broadcast. I've got friends and colleagues who work in Grosvenor Square I felt sick worrying if there was going to be an office for them to go into tomorrow if it all kicked off.

edwinbear · 07/08/2024 21:37

From what I can gather from on the local Lewisham Twitter feeds, they didn’t bother showing up. I put this down to someone commenting ‘bro mandem here don’t play’. Whilst I’m not fluent in the youngsters lingo these days, I suspect means ‘come and have a go if you think you’re hard enough’. Clearly they decided they weren’t.

liame · 07/08/2024 21:38

I know it's all relative but what was the start of it / MAIN reason? Was it to do with the 3 young girls who were killed?

Mummapenguin20 · 07/08/2024 21:43

I just hope they have run out of steam

PeapodRas · 07/08/2024 21:43

CatamaranViper · 07/08/2024 19:57

Yeah a bit.

I'm worried about the local people and businesses.

My work is very close to a meeting point and has been targeted with antisocial behaviour before so I'm really worried that they'll cause damage which could very easily result in me losing my job.

We've booked and paid for a really special treat for our son on Saturday when more riots are apparently planned and really torn about trying to do it or not. I don't want to over or under react

I'd see what comes of tonight. Maybe with news coming out about sentences up to 3 years, they might think twice?

PeapodRas · 07/08/2024 21:49

Some of you are really minimising people's worries - assuming you are white and not visibly Muslim or Sikh??

Black and Asian people have actually been attacked (reported in the press) as have some white people (from what I've heard anecdotally).

It's actually dangerous if you get caught up and it doesn't take a mob to attack people, just one or two people emboldened by all this racism

RationalityIsHard · 07/08/2024 21:50

Mummapenguin20 · 07/08/2024 21:43

I just hope they have run out of steam

It won't go away though. The rhetoric will continue without anything actually being done or anything changing, politicians and the media will stoke the fire for their own advantage, the people at the top (the ones really in charge) who we should be fighting will be delighted that, once again, we're totally distracted and fighting among ourselves and then it will all blow up again, only worse, at some point in the future.

BitchyHen · 07/08/2024 22:04

I was worried. Adult DS lives round the corner from one of the planned protests. He is white, but very alternative looking and I was worried he would be attacked. All of the local shops were boarded up. Having reassured me he would stay safe, I saw footage of him at the counter protest so obviously his idea of safety is different to mine.
He's now messaged me to say no far right protestors/rioters turned up and everything was very peaceful and he's now home, thank goodness.

LadyRoughDiamond · 07/08/2024 22:08

Homesweethome23 · 07/08/2024 20:12

Daily mail have it on their site top story,
also social media pages

Just to clarify, ‘the list’ is a list of immigration lawyers, immigration centres and refugee centres that has been circulating via the EDL on Telegram, an encrypted messaging service. It’s definitely planned and organised.

This evening’s counter-protests include forming protective barriers around these centres. It’s amazing what humanity can do.

PerkyMintDeer · 07/08/2024 22:22

I'm Asian (born here to immigrants who've lived in the UK for 50+ years after coming over to work for the NHS), my city was in a terrifying state this weekend with widespread rioting and serious assaults.

Today we were warned of more riots and our local area basically went into a sort of lockdown around 3pm - Police were knocking on local Asian shopkeepers businesses and telling them to shut and board up, our health centre shut (as most of the staff are Asian and Muslim), the main supermarket shut many hours early, the mosque was identified as a target so I forbid my elderly family members from going to pray outside of the house and we basically avoided the main roads in case of unofficial roadblocks. At tea time, my Mum realised we were running out of milk and her meds and sent my Dad to go out. He is the most visibly Muslim member of our family and very vulnerable due to age and frailty so I intervened and went instead (I'm not a practising Muslim and wear mainly Western clothes and was born here so local accent etc) insisting he stay at home and not go out, noted no Asian staff were working at the pharmacy today and I wasn't able to get into the supermarket at all as it was surrounded by police vans. I went to the nearest shop to the police station instead.

I've been watching all night on TikTok/Facebook Live as the centre of the "protest" is a quarter of a mile from the area we all live in. It's all kids from 8-15 in balaclavas waving their England flags from the football a few weeks ago. Utterly pointless, just bored kids with parents that don't give a shit about what they get up to. Except for the handful of non-working white british parents that think this is an appropriate place to take their under 8s, currently chanting racist slogans. I recognise them and sent the footage to the DSL at their kids primary school as I know that their school will take it seriously in terms of CP/Prevent etc. So really it's been a load of hype over nothing.

But we're all holed up at home, scared to buy milk, pick up meds, pray at the mosque, work our jobs, unable to access our local health centre etc. Not to mention the waste of police time and money.

I'm relieved there's been no major kick off but fuming and sad that in this day and age that it doesn't feel safe to live in this country if you aren't white british. Never thought I'd feel scared to walk down the street.

Honestly...all the non white british staff should strike from their NHS, healthcare and other public service jobs for a few weeks...see how the UK gets on then.

PerkyMintDeer · 07/08/2024 22:31

liame · 07/08/2024 21:38

I know it's all relative but what was the start of it / MAIN reason? Was it to do with the 3 young girls who were killed?

A Russian News Channel, Channel 3, released a fake story on Twitter within hours of the Southport attack saying that the attacker was a Muslim called Ali Al-Akhati who arrived on a dinghy last year. This information was widely spread, along with a picture of a black Islamic terrorist in his 30s with a knife from an attack that took place in France (they were saying he was the Southport attacker) and a screenshot from the Facebook account of a "Dad" of two of the children who were at the TS workshop that was targeted saying it was a migrant who shouted Allahu-Akbr.

Overnight, the original riot/protest outside Southport mosque was coordinated.

And of course, the Twitter/Facebook stuff was all lies.

But a lot of it was already there just waiting for a "cause" to latch on to.

liame · 09/08/2024 11:42

@PerkyMintDeer wow. Thank you.

PerkyMintDeer · 09/08/2024 11:55

liame · 09/08/2024 11:42

@PerkyMintDeer wow. Thank you.

And actually, since my last post, a British woman from Chester has been arrested in connection with the spreading the original fake information that Channel 3 latched onto, a mere few hours after the attack happened.

She's now pleading ignorance and wanting sympathy, but honestly I'm glad she's been held accountable for spreading fake news and can see the impact of what she's done. More people like her need to be held accountable.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/riots-southport-stabbings-suspect-bonnie-spofforth-b2593226.html

Woman alleged to have shared false Southport suspect rumour speaks out

‘It was a spur-of-the-moment ridiculous thing to do, which has literally destroyed me,’ Bonnie Spofforth says

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/riots-southport-stabbings-suspect-bonnie-spofforth-b2593226.html

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